Conservatives and liberals can agree: Four obvious reason Obama needs to go

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    Hey__ We as conservatives don't like Obamacare and many of us believe that he was born in Kenya. But___ even if libs can't (or won't) agree with us on those matters; the following are four matters that conservatives and liberals can agree about. Because the truth of the matter is that conservatives and liberals have the prosperity of the nation as their bottom line.

    1. Unemployment

    Unemployment has remained over 8 percent for so many months that it is the worst economy since The Great Depression. I'll note that during that time, America continued to elect their sweetheart with his failed policies and the depression last well more than a decade.

    Black unemployment has also doubled under Obama. And conservative estimates are that real unemployment is 20 percent.

    Obama himself stated if he could not get unemployment back to 5 percent then he would not deserve a second term. Let's take him at his word.

    2. Wealth

    It's a misnomer that Obama is attacking the wealthy. By third world standards, even many our impoverished people are rich. The average American family's savings have been depleted 40 percent in 3 1/2 years of Obama! And as the money becomes devalued, our hard earned savings are being devalued.

    3. Debt

    The debt skyrocketed at record rates, $5 trillion during the first term of Obama. And those "shovel ready jobs" by Obama's own admission "were never there." Though, actually, they were; but Obama was too busy setting up political funds and paying off cronies to worry about it.

    4. Gas prices

    Gas prices have doubled under Obama. And Obama's energy guy has not retracted his desire for $8 a gallon gas price; nor has Obama for that matter! And Obama has lived up to his rhetoric, blocking Keystone, denying drilling permits and dumping money into failed ventures like Solyndra (against the advice of his own auditing personnel).
     
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    What are we suppose to be agreeing on?
     
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    That Obama has failed.
     
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    That's interesting. I think Obama is a horrible president, but can only agree with one of these "reasons". It's not the president's responsibility to set gas prices or provide us with jobs. He's done very little to raise taxes on the wealthy (only talked about it). He could have, and should have, vetoed more of the crazy spending bills and bailouts, but that ball was rolling before he showed up.
     
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    You have presented your argument very clearly, and have provided quite a proof to back up your point of view. I can completely understand why you posted it this forum.
     
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    1. Unemployment

    When the President took office, we were losing 750,000 jobs a month due to GOP policies. The stock market had crashed to half its value. Today, we are gaining, all too slowly, but gaining. A major part of the problem is that the GOP has done everything in it's power to prevent any gains in order to prevent the President re-election. The other part of the problem is that the manufacturing that would boost real wage jobs has been shipped overseas by the very wealthy to increase their wealth even more. Romney himself is part and parcel of this problem.
     
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    2. For the last 30 years, both the working poor and middle class have been losing ground. As the real income of this group has been declining, the income of the very wealthy has been increasing dramatically. To the point that the disparity in wealth is far greater than is was at the beginning of the First Great Republican Depression. If we cannot change this, we will soon see the Second Great Republican Depression. For a return to the policies that nearly put us there in 2008, will surely put us there during the first term of the Romney-Ryan team.
     
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    3. Debt

    We fought two wars off of the books for seven years. The Bush admin never saw a spending bill that it did not approve of. In fact, Cheney stated "Reagan taught us that deficits don't matter".

    Now the President took office with a major depression just around the corner. Without rapid action that would pump money into the economy we would have seen the Second Great Republican Depression.

    So, how does the Romney-Ryan ticket plan to address the deficit? By cutting the income of the government even more. By putting the primary burden of taxes on the middle class and working poor. By shoveling even more money into the military-industrial complex. In fact, when the math is done, their budgets create far more deficits than does the present administrations proposals.
     

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