Conservative vs. Liberal view of crime

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    Conservatives view crime as a disease. Liberals view crime as a symptom.


    Discuss...
     
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    You've just encapsulated the discussion rather well.

    What's left to discuss?

    They're both partially right, I think.

    Poverty breeds crime and crime breeds poverty.
     
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    Agreed.

    But who is more right when it comes to pragmatic solutions and why?
     
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    I'd say no one. The problem with how we deal with crime is that we, as a society, think we need a blanket, one-size-fits-all remedy/punishment/what have you instead of addressing each case on merit.

    Some people can be rehabilitated. Some cannot. The right wants to throw everyone in prison or execute them and the left wants to turn them loose with a slap on the wrist and a promise they won't do it again. IMO, there's a time and place for both, not just one or the other.

    When addressing crime itself, the cause HAS TO BE addressed. Eliminate the cause and you eliminate the resulting crime.
     
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    The only way to eliminate crime is to eliminate criminal influence on society. How do you do that? You separate them. Forever. Cycle broken.

    Is that going to happen? Not likely.
     
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    I don't know what you mean. Are you suggesting resurrecting segregation policies?
     
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    There is no way to eliminate crime without eliminating the human race... there will always be crime, but crime is always a decision made by the person committing it...

    There are reasons behind the decision to commit crime, but that does not ever justify it.... there is always another choice and always another way..
     
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    I don't want purse snatchers drinking from the same water fountain as me. Do you?
     
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    It does indeed sum it up as has been posted already.

    But importantly it also points out the motivation for the different approaches to crime reduction. The conservative view is to punish the offender harshly. This is similar to the prevailing view in England during the 18th Century when the parliament, responding to crime, dictated that there should a couple of hundred crimes which were punishable by execution or transportation for life.

    The liberal view is that criminals should be rehabilitated. Ironically enough that view stems from the Christian redemptionist movement of the 19th Century.

    Both views are stereotypes. It's trite to say it but what's required is a mixed response which attacks both the conditions that cause crime and to deal with criminals appropriately.
     
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    My rendition:

    Conservatives: You must work hard to support your family and follow the laws to stay out of trouble.

    Liberals: You work hard and have not shot me, therefore, I'm going to do anything to get some of your money, except work for it. You Cons deserve it, you should have shot me many moons ago.

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