Conservative vs Liberal: Exploitation vs Innovation

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    Is there a historical precedence for the business divide between liberals and conservatives?

    Liberals look at business as "expansion through innovation". It's why they push education. It's why colleges and universities are mostly liberal. They see government as having a role in directing capital towards investment in education and research. They see America's lead in technology as a direct result in educational investment.

    Conservatives seem to prefer "exploitation" of existing resources. Moving jobs to China to take advantage of China's 88 dollar a month minimum wage. Removing regulations regarding clean air and clean water. Removing benefits such as health care or retirement or education as a way to increase profits. Whether it's exploitation of resources or people. Conservatives don't really care where technology comes from. They see major opportunities in exploitation.

    Has it always been that way?

    Look at the North and the Deep South before the Civil War. It was the North that was considered "liberal". They pushed education and shied away from slavery and other types of human exploitation. If the south had 20% of the North's technology and innovation, they might have won the Civil War.

    Ironically, two of the greatest inventions that came from the south were the cotton gin and the musket, both from white inventor, Eli Whitney. But the move famous scientist and innovator was certainly former slave George Washington Carver, a man who probably had the greatest impact economically after the civil war because of his discoveries in agriculture and his inventions.

    I prefer innovation over exploitation. History shows innovation wins. But only if it can be kept from being hamstrung by those who prefer exploitation.
     
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    Do you consider Steve Jobs a liberal or a conservative?
     
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    Thanks for showing me that. For some reason my spellcheck misses that word. I don't know why. At least you didn't disagree.
     
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    Who cares? Not every liberal is an innovator and not every conservative exploits. Actually, many conservatives are exploited by their own leadership.

    Even Tea Partier Centerfold Scott Brown wants the government to support putting in Broad band because he says it will lead to modernizing business communications and lead to job creation. I suspect other Republicans are opposed. They want to move jobs to China and not spend the money here on this country. It's not like it's a secret.
     
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    Liberalism is parasitism. It's expansion through exploitation of the productive.
     
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    It didn't flag it, because it's a real word.

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    I think it's relevant in the context of your broadbrush.

    I agree. I don't think political labels apply.

    Depends on how you define exploit, I suppose.

    I think there's plenty of support and opposition on both sides of the aisle.

    And now we get back to Steve Jobs. Do you have a better example of a very profitable manufactured product in high demand that could be manufactured here but isn't?
     
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    It's the liberals who are the productive. Where do you think automation and equipment design come from? Not from the right. Surely you know that.
     
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    Anything involving electronics. I started another thread that shows the Chinese working with the US Chamber of Commerce to give seminars nationwide to teach people how to outsource to China. The same Chamber of Commerce collecting money from, not only China, but also Russia and India. The same Chamber of Commerce giving tens of millions to dozens and dozens of Republican candidates and two or three Democrats.

    For some reason, every time you point out the dirty things Republicans do, they will say, "but a Democrat did it once". It's like they have no morals of their own. A Democrat raped. Should all Republicans rape? A Democrat moved jobs to China, should all jobs be moved to China? When are Republicans going to help this country and say, "Just because a Democrat did it, doesn't mean we have to.
     

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