Conservative record on Civil Rights?

[JBeukema]

"DA BOOOOOOOOOSH!!" & "DOZE RAAACEEEEEEESTS!!" are all the Democrats have left. Pretty pathetic stuff. Time to show them the door in November. Make it happen America.

None said anything about Democrats or bush.


Except you.

 

[JBeukema]

Which Conservatives have ever advocated, marched, protested for, legislated, or championed any expansion of civil rights?

Women's rights?

Gay rights?

Latino rights?

Perhaps you should go check out who it was that VOTED for civil rights. 82 percent of all elected Republicans in Congress thats who, while only about 60 percent of dems voted for it.

The OP asked about conservatives, not about members of either the Republicans or the Democrats.

Illiterate fucktard.


BTW: the Reps were founded as a progressive party and the Dems were conservatives.

 

[JBeukema]

Ever hear of Charlton Heston, president of the NRA and civil rights marcher?

Heston was a liberal when he did that.

Charlton Heston - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Heston campaigned for Presidential candidate Adlai Stevenson in 1956 and John F. Kennedy in 1960.[22] Reportedly, when an Oklahoma movie theater premiering his movie El Cid was segregated, he joined a picket line outside in 1961.[23] Heston makes no reference to this in his autobiography, but describes traveling to Oklahoma City to picket segregated restaurants, much to the chagrin of Allied Artists, the producers of El Cid.[24] During the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom held in Washington, D.C. in 1963, he accompanied Martin Luther King Jr. In later speeches, Heston said he helped the civil rights cause "long before Hollywood found it fashionable."[25]

Following the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963, Heston and actors Gregory Peck, Kirk Douglas and James Stewart issued a statement calling for support of President Johnson's Gun Control Act of 1968.[26][27] He opposed the Vietnam War and in 1969 was approached by the Democratic Party to run for the U.S. Senate. He agonized over the decision and ultimately determined he could never give up acting.[28] He is reported to have voted for Richard Nixon in 1972, though Nixon is unmentioned in his autobiography.[29]

By the 1980s, Heston opposed affirmative action, supported gun rights and changed his political affiliation from Democratic to Republican. When asked why he changed political alliances, Heston replied "I didn't change. The Democratic party changed." [30] He campaigned for Republicans and Republican Presidents Ronald Reagan,[31] George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush.[32]​

Obviously, because no conservative could do that.

I wonder why he went insane and joined the NRA.

Joining the NRA makes one insane?

 

[Charles_Main]

Which Conservatives have ever advocated, marched, protested for, legislated, or championed any expansion of civil rights?

Women's rights?

Gay rights?

Latino rights?

None. At all. By definition.

S: (n) conservative, conservativist (a person who is reluctant to accept changes and new ideas)

S: (adj) conservative (resistant to change)

–adjective
1 disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.

-Noun
8.
a person who is conservative in principles, actions, habits, etc.
9.
a supporter of conservative political policies.

please

 

[JBeukema]

Chalk this one up to our dismal & failing Public School System. Most Republicans voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act. Most Democrats voted against it. Man it really is a crap-shoot sending your child into a Public School these days. Who knows what the Liberal loons are filling their heads with? More like Russian Roulette i think.

Chalk this one up to our dismal & failing Public School System.


Democrat =/= Liberal

Republican =/= Conservative

 

[JBeukema]

You have some understanding of the difference between political parties and political ideologies, right? I wonder sometimes...

I never said "Republicans". I said "Conservatives".

What is "conservative"? JFK today would be a conservative. Martin Luther King would be considered a conservative. The definition changes over 40 years, ya know.

Classifying those two as Conservative only allows Conservatives to co-opt true heroes and ignore their own positions as the opposition to civil rights.

Tell me, would you claim Lester Maddox, Strom Thurmond, George Wallace and Sheriff "Bull" Connor as Conservatives today? In the late 1950s? Early 1960s?

Or has the definition changes so those folks might finally be thought of as Liberals?

'conservative' is no ideology.

It means nothing.

 

[JBeukema]

Rabbi,

No way in sam's hell MLK would be considered a Convervative. Have you read his I Have a Dream speech, in its entirety? He explicity endorses Socialism lite. I suggest you read it.

Read the rest of his writings.

The socialism he espouses when Whitey wasn't looking wasn't so light.

 

[Nosmo King]

And that's the difference. You see welfare as a path to wealth. I've never seen anyone on welfare who has gained wealth, only sustenance. I see wealth without work as the wealth attained through speculation and greed. The wealth of a hedge fund manager e.g. It goes hand in glove with commerce without morality. And followed by politics without principle.

Most Conoservatives have redefined compassion, character, principle, morality and sacrifice to suit their own ends.

WTF?

I see welfare as creating dependency, not a path to wealth. If you agree with me about that you might be a conservative.

Then explain this:

Wealth without work, aka welfare. Opposition to welfare seems to be a pretty conservative position to me.

I can only respond to what you actually say. Wealth without work, AKA welfare. Not Welfare is a path to dependency! Welfare is also known as wealth without work.

Keep moving those goalposts! Keep rationalizing your own greed. What's next? Charity is also a path to dependency and that's how you can finally get some restful sleep?

 

[Nosmo King]

Tell me, would you consider racial profiling a violation of civil rights? Would you consider repealing the Defense of Marriage Act an advancement of civil rights? What is the Conservative attitude toward those things?

Do I consider racial profiling a violation of civil rights? That depends on what you mean by racial profiling. As for repealing DOMA, if you want to claim that it violates civil rights we might have to discuss exactly how it does so. Would you also like a list of the liberals in Congress who voted for DOMA? Or did you simply assume the 85 Senators and 342 Representatives who voted for it were all conservatives?

Alright, let's define racial profiling. Let's start by calling it the practice by state officials of questioning individuals based on appearance rather than probable cause.

And restricting same sex marriage violates civil rights by denying citizens access to the protections and benefits of contract law. Because that's how the state looks at marriage: as contact law. The church sanctifies marriage, the state merely issues a marriage license.

 

[nraforlife]

Which Conservatives have ever advocated, marched, protested for, legislated, or championed any expansion of civil rights?

Women's rights?

Gay rights?

Latino rights?

There are NO such 'rights', Fool

 

[Nosmo King]

Which Conservatives have ever advocated, marched, protested for, legislated, or championed any expansion of civil rights?

Women's rights?

Gay rights?

Latino rights?

There are NO such 'rights', Fool

Q.E.D. With this line of thinking, are we to assume that minorities do not deserve the same rights as all American citizens? That women should not enjoy the right to earn equal money for equal work? That Gay Americans do not deserve access to contract law?

Such is the Conservative position on civil rights.

 

[JBeukema]

Once again, RGS throws a fit

 

[nraforlife]

......same rights .............

Same rights? yes. Special rights? NO.

 

[The Rabbi]

Which Conservatives have ever advocated, marched, protested for, legislated, or championed any expansion of civil rights?

Women's rights?

Gay rights?

Latino rights?

There are NO such 'rights', Fool

Q.E.D. With this line of thinking, are we to assume that minorities do not deserve the same rights as all American citizens? That women should not enjoy the right to earn equal money for equal work? That Gay Americans do not deserve access to contract law?

Such is the Conservative position on civil rights.

No, dumbshit. I said that right at the beginning. Conservatives feel everyone should have the same rights. Blacks should not have the right to get extra points on their civil service exam because they are black. Latinos should not have the right to have spaces in universities set aside for them because they are Latino. Women should not have preferences in job promotions because they are women.
That is the conservative position. The opposite is the liberal position.