Conservative Bible

[Moonglow]

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. 2 Thessalonians 3:10

To my knowledge this is the only verse of the Bible ever quoted by conservatives.

There are 17 other verses in Chapter 3 of Thessalonians. Are they relevant?

There are 23,144 other verses in the Bible. Are they relevant?

How can people continue to pretend that the Bible doesn't promote left wing principles? The Bible is way more consistent with liberal political thought than with conservative politic thought. Does anybody get it?

Jesus said this

Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place."

Clearly, by his words and action he is telling us that the kingdom of God has nothing to do with the god of this world.

However, Left wingers only look to corrupt world governments that Jesus side stepped.

Which governments did he sidestep?

 

[Votto]

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. 2 Thessalonians 3:10

To my knowledge this is the only verse of the Bible ever quoted by conservatives.

There are 17 other verses in Chapter 3 of Thessalonians. Are they relevant?

There are 23,144 other verses in the Bible. Are they relevant?

How can people continue to pretend that the Bible doesn't promote left wing principles? The Bible is way more consistent with liberal political thought than with conservative politic thought. Does anybody get it?

Jesus said this

Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place."

Clearly, by his words and action he is telling us that the kingdom of God has nothing to do with the god of this world.

However, Left wingers only look to corrupt world governments that Jesus side stepped.

Which governments did he sidestep?

The Roman government was an oppressive dictatorship. Jews were routinely beaten and killed to keep them in line, however, when asked if Jews should pay taxes to Caesar, he in no way cited a desire for rebellion/revolution. Instead, he asked them whose picture was on all the money, which was Caesar, so he told them to render to what is Caesars and render to God what is Gods.

Jesus did not command an army nor hold a public office, nor did he seek to do so. He was just a simple son of a carpenter, yet he became more influential than everyone else who have used fame and fortune and military power to become famous.

 

[Votto]

Yes, when Jesus fed the multitude they all clamored to make him a king.

Jesus then tried to splain to them that a full belly was not the message, rather, it was only a means of gaining their attention for the real message which was a spiritual one.

He then left them instead of letting them make him a king, which is polar opposite to his purpose, but would be 100% what a Leftist would want so that heads would roll.

God is a leftist what is he doing there?
God condemned all humans to die....

There are but two roads to take. You either seek God as your savior or government.

Naturally, there will be those that tell you that they only need themselves, but we all know how powerless our own personal power is compared to the collective. We also inherently know that society in general is "helpless" which is why Left wingers are so into empowering government to help them.

The Bible says we are sheep, which pretty much describes the situation.

Now the Hebrew people in 1 Samuel 8 clamored for a human king. God was not happy about it because he saw himself as being rejected their king, so he told the prophet Samuel that they could have what they wanted so long as they understood the abuses that they would suffer from under the hand of a sinful man who would be king. They would not listen, so God gave them Saul.

From there it was a spiral down the drain till they all wound up in the ovens of Nazi Germany.

In fact, Jews are mostly secular and Left wing so I wonder how many voted for the great socialist Hitler.

 

[The Irish Ram]

For no prophecy was ever brought about through human initiative,

What is this?

One of the Bible verses you find irrelevant...

 

[Cecilie1200]

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. 2 Thessalonians 3:10

To my knowledge this is the only verse of the Bible ever quoted by conservatives.

There are 17 other verses in Chapter 3 of Thessalonians. Are they relevant?

There are 23,144 other verses in the Bible. Are they relevant?

How can people continue to pretend that the Bible doesn't promote left wing principles? The Bible is way more consistent with liberal political thought than with conservative politic thought. Does anybody get it?

I note that you didn't actually QUOTE any of those other verses to demonstrate that they promote left-wing principles. You just assumed it, and hoped we'd let you get away with it.

 

[Cecilie1200]

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. 2 Thessalonians 3:10

To my knowledge this is the only verse of the Bible ever quoted by conservatives.

There are 17 other verses in Chapter 3 of Thessalonians. Are they relevant?

There are 23,144 other verses in the Bible. Are they relevant?

How can people continue to pretend that the Bible doesn't promote left wing principles? The Bible is way more consistent with liberal political thought than with conservative politic thought. Does anybody get it?

I love the part of the bible where it says "God helps those that help themselves". With liberals they want Government to help them because they are too stupid to use God's given gifts..

That's not actually in the Bible, y'know. At least, not in so many words.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Christians are trained to cherry pick verses.

Not nearly as much as leftists/atheists are trained to be hypocrites.

 

[Cecilie1200]

For all you so called conservatives that believe in liberal values, you are not really conservatives...
Oh and your hard heart will keep you from Heaven faster than a gay man..

For all you lefists who think values are "liberal", you're not really very bright.

Of course, I could tell that as soon as you thought you had something to tell me about Christianity. No one's looking to you for any sort of wisdom, Reverend Moonglow, religious or otherwise.

 

[Cecilie1200]

My liberal values were absolutely informed by my early religious indoctrination. How conservatives have turned the seven deadly sins into virtues is beyond me. I no longer call myself a christian but the fearlessly gentle example of Jesus still resonates strongly with me.

If you don't consider yourself a Christian, then frankly, I don't care about your opinion about Christianity.

Even if someone DOES consider him or herself a Christian, if they're spouting non-Biblical nonsense, I don't care about his/her opinion.

 

[forkup]

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. 2 Thessalonians 3:10

To my knowledge this is the only verse of the Bible ever quoted by conservatives.

There are 17 other verses in Chapter 3 of Thessalonians. Are they relevant?

There are 23,144 other verses in the Bible. Are they relevant?

How can people continue to pretend that the Bible doesn't promote left wing principles? The Bible is way more consistent with liberal political thought than with conservative politic thought. Does anybody get it?

I love the part of the bible where it says "God helps those that help themselves". With liberals they want Government to help them because they are too stupid to use God's given gifts..

Find me any verse that has that sentence? I dare you.

God helps those that help themselves

 

[Cecilie1200]

What are some of your examples of liberalism in the Bible?

They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. Matthew 22:21

Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy; That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate; Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life. 1 Timothy 6:17-19

And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the Lordyour God. Leviticus 19:10

Yeah, uh, neither of those are "liberal", except in the sense that those on the left want to assume, without evidence, that anything they like is "theirs".

Conservatives don't have a problem with the existence of taxes. We have a problem with the idea of being taxed unreasonably so that the government can waste the money on things which aren't its job.

Likewise, please note that your Leviticus quote does NOT say, "Thou shalt have the government come by, and take what it thinks you don't need, and give it to others." At every point in the Bible in which being charitable is commanded, it is commanded on a PERSONAL, VOLUNTARY basis. And noticeably, it is CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS, not liberals of any sort, who are the most personally charitable in this country.

So please do not even attempt to try to claim charity as "liberal", and certainly not on the basis of "Look how much money I voted for the government take from you!"

 

[Cecilie1200]

Allowing grain to remain in the field was to let the poor glean something to eat. It was a charitable act

You make a great argument except for this. Leaving grain in the field was not an act of charity. It was a mandate.

Yeah, from God, not from the government. Obeying God is still a voluntary act. He's not going to send people with guns to confiscate your stuff and haul you off to jail if you choose not to comply.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You guys are all making great arguments. I agree with all of you. I am a conservative too.

I'm not saying that being conservative is bad. I am saying that the Bible promotes liberal principles. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and saying that you are obligated to like the Bible. Most conservatives passionately hate the Bible because of its promotion of communist/left wing ideologies. That's why I voted no in this poll.

No, you are saying that the Bible promotes principles, and you personally have decided that they are "liberal", because you've got some sort of weird brain disfunction.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Don’t you think Jesus would be proud that we as a society provide foodstamps to people who don’t have money?

Jesus was a food stamp recipient that loved the poor. Jesus was also a fan of the prophets who violently warned nations to care for the poor. I am going to answer yes to your question.

What are you babbling about NOW?

 

[Cecilie1200]

The Bible teaches us to work hard and take personal responsibility for our actions and for our families. It teaches us not to be lazy and to enjoy the work of our hands. The Bible doesn’t teach that wealth is wrong. The Bible teaches that the love of money is wrong. Looking after the poor, the sick and the vulnerable and sharing with others are human values, not liberal values. Conservatives don't disagree with liberals on the problems. Conservatives disagree with liberals on the solutions to the problems. Those are two different things. The reality is the liberal solutions of throwing money over a fence have been shown not to work. All they do is induce a spiritual and moral disintegration fundamentally destructive to the spirit of man.

Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

Matthew 6:25

And your point is what? That God wants us to sit around idle and starve? Talk about cherrypicking AND misunderstanding.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Not unless Jesus got elected to public office and I somehow missed that chapter. MORON.

 

[presonorek]

The Bible teaches us to work hard and take personal responsibility for our actions and for our families. It teaches us not to be lazy and to enjoy the work of our hands. The Bible doesn’t teach that wealth is wrong. The Bible teaches that the love of money is wrong. Looking after the poor, the sick and the vulnerable and sharing with others are human values, not liberal values. Conservatives don't disagree with liberals on the problems. Conservatives disagree with liberals on the solutions to the problems. Those are two different things. The reality is the liberal solutions of throwing money over a fence have been shown not to work. All they do is induce a spiritual and moral disintegration fundamentally destructive to the spirit of man.

Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

Matthew 6:25

And your point is what? That God wants us to sit around idle and starve? Talk about cherrypicking AND misunderstanding.

Those weren't my words. You will have to figure them out yourself.

 

[presonorek]

It would be awkward to post entire books of the Bible. Everybody just to read it for themselves so that they can reject it with a full understanding.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The Bible teaches us to work hard and take personal responsibility for our actions and for our families. It teaches us not to be lazy and to enjoy the work of our hands. The Bible doesn’t teach that wealth is wrong. The Bible teaches that the love of money is wrong. Looking after the poor, the sick and the vulnerable and sharing with others are human values, not liberal values. Conservatives don't disagree with liberals on the problems. Conservatives disagree with liberals on the solutions to the problems. Those are two different things. The reality is the liberal solutions of throwing money over a fence have been shown not to work. All they do is induce a spiritual and moral disintegration fundamentally destructive to the spirit of man.

Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

Matthew 6:25

And your point is what? That God wants us to sit around idle and starve? Talk about cherrypicking AND misunderstanding.

Those weren't my words. You will have to figure them out yourself.

They aren't your words, but you chose to quote them, and I'm questioning your motive in doing it. So you can either sack up and actually explain the point you were trying to make by citing this quote, or you can puss out and say, "Just figure out for yourself how right I am". Of course, that is the same thing as saying, "I'm completely full of crap, and you should spit on me and ignore me as not worth your time."

So it's entirely up to you whether or not you relegate yourself to board joke. I guess we'll see your choice in your next post.

 

[The Irish Ram]

In this poll I would expect to vote yes. Otherwise I have a hard time seeing them as true Christian's if they ignore 23144/23145 of the Bible. That is very close to 100.00%.

The Bible does not tell us how to run a nation--but rather, how to run our personal lives.

Did you tear Leviticus and Deuteronomy out of your Bible? If so, why?

Do you follow Leviticus and Deuteronomy? Are you a 2,000 year old Jew hanging out at Mt. Sinai?
If so, allow me to ease your mind. You are not bound to the 600+ laws given to those specific people at that specific time.
You are under a different covenant. One that forgives you while you are sinning.