Consequences of cutting Public Worker benefits.

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    Retards never look past their nose for consequences, because they lack the ability to think logically, and always rely on their common sense, jesus, or some other crutch to justufy their actions. Here are some of those costly consequences from WSJ that will end up costing the taxpayers more, not less, for screwing with public employee benefits,

    Public employees are retiring at a quickening pace around the U.S., providing a mixed blessing for state and local governments seeking to save money.

    In Wisconsin, where lawmakers voted in mid-March to end workers' collective bargaining for future employment contracts, 3,362 people have applied to retire this year, a 73% jump from last year. And 10,975 people since the beginning of the year have taken the first step toward retirement—flooding the Wisconsin Department of Employee Trust Funds with requests for estimates of their potential benefits. That's up 134%.

    A teacher for 35 years who earns in the high 50s, Ms Herricks can now retire and collect nearly her former salary. "Retirement was supposed to be something happy. I'm so sad."

    Given that pensions are off-limits to certain taxes, Mr. Herricks says they will bring home close to what they did before. They also plan to substitute teach.

    The moves are motivating many public employees to retire sooner than expected, as public employees take the opposite approach of many workers who have put off retirement to recoup personal wealth lost during the recession.

    In New Jersey, four big pension funds saw a record 20,327 retirements in 2010 versus 12,720 the year before amid the prospect of less-generous benefits.

    In California, Guy Harris recently retired at 50 years old because he feared he would otherwise lose benefits he says he has counted on since joining the state transportation department 27 years ago as a civil engineer.

    "It wouldn't surprise me if they change the rules and say you can't retire before 55," he says. "I didn't want to get stuck."

    He was earning about $9,000 per month and will collect about a third of that as a retiree. Plus, he has been hired back as a consultant, and is working on his own walnut farm.


    Public Workers Rush for Retirement - WSJ.com

    WSJ also points out that states are expecting less qualified employees that will be working with the public and might affect communitys.
     
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    Good, get them out of the way so we can hire new folks to take their jobs at a lower pay level. Lower pensions and lower overall cost. They will probably work better too. I found it amusing that when there was a major storm here the government was told to keep "non-essential" workers home. They were so non-essential no one knew they weren't there.

    Seems to me if you can not show up for work and there is zero effect (in one case the service was faster and better with the staff on hand) then maybe you ought naught be employed at that locale.

    There are too many government workers doing the same jobs. Get rid of the waste.
     
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    I feel so sorry for the guy that retired so he wouldn't get stuck working until 55. lol fuck me
     
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    Wow you're right, we are stupid. Of course we have to pay ridiculous retirement benefits to lifetime bureaucrats, so we have to keep paying them to work so they don't retire. This site is so educational...
     
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    Im not really seeing the downside here.
     
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    It's not "retardation", exactly. It's more a feeling of helplessness..which translates into a "Quisling" like syndrome..or identification with those that are victimizing you. In essense you "become" them..and strike out at people at your same level..

    That's why they can't see the danger of one person in a company making 20 million dollars while that same company cuts benefits and employees. These people are "Corporate Quislings".
     
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    The status quo is unsustainable, a concept moonbats will never understand.......
     
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    Ummm, maybe. Of course if it is a good CEO they are worth the 20 million. If theysuck as a CEO they should be fired without a Golden Parachute. On the other hand, too many here have been on the recieving end of the "public servant" turned petty tyrant reality of dealing with public sector employees.

    Here in Nevada where I have to deal with government workers on a fairly regular basis I see the gamut from the merely incompetent (the majority) to the tyrannical (a small percentage but they wreak great havoc and earn their fellow workers nothing but enmity) and of course the good average worker who can do a basic job but is incapable of doing the type of work that would get a promotion in the private sector (the useable minority) and finally, every now and then you find a gem, one who is competent, friendly, who really wants to help people. They are so rare that they need to be discovered early and nourished so that they will hopefully flourish. Of course most of them get disgusted with their fellow employees so migrate over to the private sector where they earn less money but generally like the work better.

    They are of course a very, very small percentage. Less than 1% in my experience.
     
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    Fewer public workers standing around scratching their butts... How will America cope???
     
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    Well they will be "scratching their butts" on the unemployment lines..while the people left pick up the slack.

    So..

    More kids in classrooms.
    More firehouse closures.
    More crime.
    Dirtier streets.
    Less buses and trains running.

    And rich folks get to keep more of their money while their companies move offshore, or fail while the taxpayer picks up the tab.

    Mission accomplished.

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