Consensus?

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  1. IanC
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    A professionally done survey of actual climate scientists

    http://coast.gkss.de/staff/storch/pdf/GKSS_2010_9.CLISCI.pdf

    Where Consensus Fails – The Science Cannot Be Called ‘Settled’ | Watts Up With That?
     
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    Even the author of the study believes that man is responsible for the present warming. And, once again, if there is no consensus, why does every Scientific Society, every National Academy of Science, and every major University state that AGW is a fact?

    Inhofes List of 400 Scientists Global Warming Deniers, Debunked - Climate Change Deniers - The Daily Green

    360. Dr. Hans von Storch, the director of Institute for Coastal Research of the GKSS Research Centre, and a professor at the Meteorological Institute of the University of Hamburg. Believes man is responsible for global warming, just doesn't believe it will be as bad as some make it out to be.
    Hans von Storch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Read more: Inhofes List of 400 Scientists Global Warming Deniers, Debunked - Climate Change Deniers - The Daily Green
     
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    Consensus is not science. Science is testing, not authority
     
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    Playing the consensus card (a non-existent consensus, by the way) is a logical fallacy on its face.

    Science tends to be logical, so scientists rarely use such fallacies.
     
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    I posted a survey of scientists to show that there is indeed consensus on the general terms of AGW. As the questions become more specific the concensus drops off quickly.

    To avoid becoming pariahs in their field it is much easier to agree with the general idea because no one can argue that CO2 is going up and that CO2 is a GHG. But as the questions start to delve into the amount of knowledge known and the amount of knowldge needed in specific areas, they are allowed to show skepticism without being labelled a 'denier'. And they do.
     

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