Congressional Reform Act of 2011

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    Corporate power, cause there not people. They are souless monsters, eaters of profit who justify there own existence and greed by fueling the narcissim of there stockholders.
    They should be stripped of the rights of human returned to there rightfull place, servants to population.
     
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    Right, the republicans would be completely on board.


     
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    That one, at least, has already been passed.
     
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    Congressional pension is a pension made available to members of the United States Congress. Members who participated in the congressional pension system are vested after five (5) years of service. A full pension is available to Members 62 years of age with 5 years of service; 50 years or older with 20 years of service; or 25 years of service at any age. A reduced pension is available depending upon which of several different age/service options is chosen. If Members leave Congress before reaching retirement age, they may leave their contributions behind and receive a deferred pension later.[1] The current pension program, effective January 1987, is under the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS), which covers members and other federal employees whose federal employment began in 1984 or later. This replaces the older Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS) for most members of congress and federal employees.

    Congressional pension - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    AMENDMENT XXVII
    Originally proposed Sept. 25, 1789. Ratified May 7, 1992.

    No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of representatives shall have intervened
    The Constitution of the United States: Amendments 11-27

    It would seem to me that if one wished to change the retirement benefits of Congress it would be a matter of doing one of two things. The easiest way would be for congress to bascially pass legislation setting their pension benefits or what program they participate in. The other way would be to create an Amendment that sets that for all of Congress which would seem to me a needless excerice, when it can already be set by legislation. The hard part would be getting them to actually do it. Would be a matter of finding candidates that people are willing to vote for that commit to do it. On a side note, I know of very few professions that one can be fully vested in after 5 years. I would also submit that 5 years of Military service would be MUCH more deserving of being vested than 5 years of congressional service.
     
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    A generation ago Jackie Mason said to "put Congress on commission"
     
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    Agreed. Unions and Soros affiliated companies should not be allowed to give money to politicians
     
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    Really? Some people or organizations get to give money but others don't? Is that fair, you guys just love fair. I'd rather limit the contribution to say $500 for everybody, no excpetions, and I'd funnel it through an independent group that checks the donor for legality. If it doesn't check out then the money goes into the US Treasury.

    I'd also require 3rd party ads to be listed, who paid for it and no funny bu siness trying to hide identities. Actually, I'd rather outlaw all rd party ads, but that's probably a violation of the 1st amendment. At least we should ensure full transparency for who's paying for what.
     
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    Stupid people shouldn't be allowed to cancel my vote, but I can't help that either
     
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    The first part is indeed from Warren Buffet. The remainder is editorial comment from someone else. Still, the ideas are quite in line with what should be done regarding congressmen and their perks. There is absolutely no valid reason that they should be granted any privileges, retirement programs, medical care of other benefits that exceed those available to the average citizen.

    The problem is, they vote themselves these things and it will be difficult to take them away. Maybe an executive order by the President could do that.
     

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