Congress looks for alternatives to "Stolen Valor"

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  1. Vast LWC
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    Yes, while you were distracted, the SCOTUS struck down "Stolen Valor", allowing people to lie about military experience and commendations.

    Congress finally did something right, and the Supreme Court overturns it.

    Good work jackasses.

    Well, at least they're looking to make it work in a different way.

    Legislators seek alternative to Stolen Valor Act after ruling - latimes.com
     
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    What I want to know is:

    Since when is FRAUD protected by the 1st amendment?

    The person who brought the case to the court committed fraud by lying to an employer about military experience to get a job.

    What an asshole.
     
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    I agree, but when does the court make sense? And got to love this corrupt government we have. CONGRESS of all people does the right thing and it's struck down. What a bizaaro world this is.
     
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    Why didn't Roberts just rewrite it so it would be Constitutional?
     
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    Then that is between him and his employer, i.e. his constituents.
     
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    Fraud is not protected. But since the Stolen Valor Act did not apply only to fraud, the court ruled it was unconstitutionally content-based since the government did not prove specific harm done by the lies. It also ruled that since Alvarez's career was ruined and would have been ruined anyway without the law because he's a lying jackass (ok, not the Court's specific words) the law wasn't specifically necessary for the cases of fraud.
     
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    If Congress were serious about prohibiting fraud, obama would be in prison by now.
     
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    I can't wait until there is a special situation as to where someone is injured due to this protected fraud being in their mind. For example, lets say that a guy lied about his service in Iraq to get a job at McDonalds, Boeing, St. Joseph's Hospital anywhere and he, for reasons totally unrelated, performs some sort of workplace violence to where people are held hostage or he makes threats or what have you. The police see that he supposedly is a vet and theorize that a lot of vets have PTSD...and are of the opinion that it won't end well so they use snipers. Or one of his co-workers figures that he's a trained combatant and uses lethal force in subduing him. Or any number of such scenarios.

    This was a ruling by the court that I understand but vehemently disagree with. I hope to hell that employers begin more strictly observing records of those who claim military service and have 1-strike rules in place for those who commit this brand of fraud.

    God bless our servicemen and women.
    God damn those who lie about it.

    With this I respectfully dissent.
     
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    congress can't regulate free speech as much as the democrat nazi pricks would like to.
     
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    Strange, last I heard "impersonating a police officer" was a crime.

    I guess I can just go and randomly harass people in a uniform now, right?

    It's my 1st amendment right to do so, after all...
     

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