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You even understand what an executive order is and its history?you first..I doubt your sour ass will be missed.
Damn you're still here.
go dump your sour ass on the rest here, that seems to be your mission on this board.
MEH! He can be fired; he works for us... so he'd better go back and look up the rules again. Congress, better do this too. Congress is responsible for expenditures by the gov't - exec order or no exec order. We pay them plenty to show up for work and actually know what their job is... and do it. I don't expect them to unanimously agree on everything. They can't if we're paying them to faithfully represent US, right? We sure don't all agree. (Part 2 of that job, is voting or compromising in a useful fashion for the "common good" of the country, as a whole. Not just the latest lobbyist.)
Mr. O is just a sad, pathetic, desperate man trying to prove we 'need' him. UH-HUH... suuurrrre.
We really 'need' leaders who blame everyone else for the fact that he hasn't taken his own advisor's recommendations seriously, and therefore we're further in the hole every day... and who keeps trying the same thing that failed the last time.
I'd advise him to man up, but I'm afraid he has the wrong idea of what I mean. So it would appear, from his latest debacle. I hate to see a grown man squirm like this... weasel around trying to find something solid to hang on to, when it's pretty clear it's just too damn late to rescue the "relationship"... and it's his own damn fault.
When they start making an issue of changing definitions of words, rules that have been around forever, and engaging in doublespeak never meaning what they say... well, it's just over at that point. Isn't it?
You guys weren't so upset when this shit happened..
George W. Bush Executive Orders Subjects
List of Presidential Signing Statements Issued by George W. Bush
Executive privilege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cheney Executive Privilege | Cheney's executive decision - Los Angeles Times
Like..what changed?
Are executive orders constitutional?
MEH! He can be fired; he works for us... so he'd better go back and look up the rules again. Congress, better do this too. Congress is responsible for expenditures by the gov't - exec order or no exec order. We pay them plenty to show up for work and actually know what their job is... and do it. I don't expect them to unanimously agree on everything. They can't if we're paying them to faithfully represent US, right? We sure don't all agree. (Part 2 of that job, is voting or compromising in a useful fashion for the "common good" of the country, as a whole. Not just the latest lobbyist.)
Mr. O is just a sad, pathetic, desperate man trying to prove we 'need' him. UH-HUH... suuurrrre.
We really 'need' leaders who blame everyone else for the fact that he hasn't taken his own advisor's recommendations seriously, and therefore we're further in the hole every day... and who keeps trying the same thing that failed the last time.
I'd advise him to man up, but I'm afraid he has the wrong idea of what I mean. So it would appear, from his latest debacle. I hate to see a grown man squirm like this... weasel around trying to find something solid to hang on to, when it's pretty clear it's just too damn late to rescue the "relationship"... and it's his own damn fault.
When they start making an issue of changing definitions of words, rules that have been around forever, and engaging in doublespeak never meaning what they say... well, it's just over at that point. Isn't it?
Are executive orders constitutional?
Why the hell are we even paying for a Congress?
We should send them all home and just let the Obama rule by dictator, I mean by executive orders.
Go away stupid.
Stupid did go away. This is where he landed.
Presidents have issued executive orders since 1789. Although there is no Constitutional provision or statute that explicitly permits executive orders, there is a vague grant of "executive power" given in Article II, Section 1, Clause 1 of the Constitution, and furthered by the declaration "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" made in Article II, Section 3, Clause 4.
Executive order - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
While not a constitutional lawyer, it would appear that the President is granted powers to issue so called " Executive Orders" on laws already in place. Then the question becomes is there a Law already in place that the Executive Order is using to see that it is faithfully executed. There is one case in that link where the Supreme Court basically said the President has no authority to make laws with such power.
Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 U.S. 579
Justice Black wrote for the majority, although the number of divergent concurring opinions made it clear that he did not necessarily speak for it. Black took, as he often did, an absolutist view, holding that the President had no power to act except in those cases expressly or implicitly authorized by the Constitution or an act of Congress.
Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Presidents have issued executive orders since 1789. Although there is no Constitutional provision or statute that explicitly permits executive orders, there is a vague grant of "executive power" given in Article II, Section 1, Clause 1 of the Constitution, and furthered by the declaration "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" made in Article II, Section 3, Clause 4.
Executive order - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
While not a constitutional lawyer, it would appear that the President is granted powers to issue so called " Executive Orders" on laws already in place. Then the question becomes is there a Law already in place that the Executive Order is using to see that it is faithfully executed. There is one case in that link where the Supreme Court basically said the President has no authority to make laws with such power.
Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 U.S. 579
Justice Black wrote for the majority, although the number of divergent concurring opinions made it clear that he did not necessarily speak for it. Black took, as he often did, an absolutist view, holding that the President had no power to act except in those cases expressly or implicitly authorized by the Constitution or an act of Congress.
Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That case was about seizure of property and may not be "on point". EOs are authorized by Congress, but aren't enforced except at the president's discretion.
So Dragon, then the question becomes, if there is no power granted by congress to issue EO's as they apply to mortgage adjustments, and admittedly have not looked into it yet, is the current EO beyond his authority ?
As for the constitution, it's fairly clear under his constitution if he is simply issuing an EO based on any authority given for such mortgage adjustments then he is simply seeing to it that they are faithfully executed, a power granted under the constitution. Although, am sure it can be argued that any congressional authority given the President to issue EO's might be used, however, at least in my humble opinion thats a little bit of a stretch.
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Oh. So George W. Bush making up shit to go into Iraq,
suspending Habeas Corpus on American citizens,
lying about getting warrants to electronically spy on American citizens, pulling airplane manifests, and trying to pull library and medical records but being stopped by Doctors and Librarians, authorizing torture, putting fake articles into newspapers, putting up fake news stories on networks, having gay male prostitutes pitch softball questions at him in whitehouse news conferences, and issuing a plethora of executive orders, signing statements and priviledges helped keep you sleeping.
Tells you something.
shut up birther.
Obama is trying to bankrupt our country and he is doing a real good job of doing it.We can not afford for him to be in office one more day let alone 4 more years.
Obama is trying to bankrupt our country and he is doing a real good job of doing it.We can not afford for him to be in office one more day let alone 4 more years.
Thats an ignorant statement.
Why would Obama want to bankrupt the country, whatever that means. The Executive has no taxing/spending authority, thats Congress sole authority. In 2001 there was a budget surplus, gone six years later after republican rule.
Obama cant bankrupt something already bankrupt.
