Congress? A dictator doesn't need Congress

Section 1 of Article II. The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.

Section 2 of Article II of Constitution: "The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States; he may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices, and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment."

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Consistent with Article II, the Court said, a president may recommend the enactment of a particular bill, Veto objectionable legislation, and "faithfully execute" laws that have been passed by both houses of Congress. As commander in chief, the president of the United States is vested with ultimate responsibility for the nation's armed forces. However, the Court emphasized, the office of the president has no constitutional authority outside the language contained within the four corners of the Constitution.

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These Executive Order's issued even though sometimes born out of frustration, no matter what the Administration be it Bush or Obama, if they seek to make laws, or go around what are clearly congressional powers are wrong NO MATTER what party does it.
and yet no one calls them on it. So is it really even a rule if it's not enforced.

Sadly, your correct, makes you wonder if all three branches of our Govt. actually operated as they should, how much better off we all would be.
The budget would be probably under 10% of it's current size, We'd all keep 90% of our wealth, and the social revolutionaries would wither on the vine with no power to grab in government.

Yeah... it'd be nice.
 
Exactly. If the Obstructionist Party hadn't been playing their reindeer games for the past many, many months, these lengths wouldn't be necessary.
the Obstructionist Party?

You mean like Chris Dodd (d), Maxine Waters (d) Bawney Fwank (d) blocking the W admin's attempts to reform and save Freddie and Fannie in 2003-4?

Ms. Pott, meet Mr. Kettle. Mr. Kettle, Ms. Pott.
 
and yet no one calls them on it. So is it really even a rule if it's not enforced.

What's to enforce? The president can't sign EOs without prior consent of Congress. If you think that's too much power, then look to Congress for giving it to him and presidents before him. This thread is "much ado about nothing", because if it were unconstitutional, the USSC would have already gotten the case and said so. After all, it's not like they're something new! Nice try, ODS sufferers, but this is just another case of a made-up controversy.
 
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Exactly. If the Obstructionist Party hadn't been playing their reindeer games for the past many, many months, these lengths wouldn't be necessary.
the Obstructionist Party?

You mean like Chris Dodd (d), Maxine Waters (d) Bawney Fwank (d) blocking the W admin's attempts to reform and save Freddie and Fannie in 2003-4?

Ms. Pott, meet Mr. Kettle. Mr. Kettle, Ms. Pott.

Reform?

He wanted to eliminate them. That whole corruption investigation got them out of the mortgage game in the first place..and allowed a plethora of predatory lending outfits to get gazillion bad loans.

:lol:
 
and yet no one calls them on it. So is it really even a rule if it's not enforced.

What's to enforce? The president can't sign EOs without prior consent of Congress. If you think that's too much power, then look to Congress for giving it to him and presidents before him. This thread is "much ado about nothing", because if it were unconstitutional, the USSC would have already gotten the case and said so. After all, it's not like they're something new! Nice try, ODS sufferers, but this is just another case of a made-up controversy.

And very much like the debt, deficit, wars, and a million other issues, that happened last administration..all of a sudden it's "relevant".

:lol:
 
WOW, we have our own little Dictator..how bout that.

CONTACT YOUR DAMN CONGRESSCRITTERS.
 
What's to enforce? The president can't sign EOs without prior consent of Congress. If you think that's too much power, then look to Congress for giving it to him and presidents before him. This thread is "much ado about nothing", because if it were unconstitutional, the USSC would have already gotten the case and said so. After all, it's not like they're something new! Nice try, ODS sufferers, but this is just another case of a made-up controversy.

True.

And if the OP believes the president has acted in an un-Constitutional manner, as a ‘dictator,’ then he/she’s welcome to file suit in Federal court.
 
This news made my day. Hell, it made my week. This is definitely the high point of October.

Really? You thought he'd just sit there with his thumb up his ass while the Rethugs held our country hostage? Really?? Fuck us? FUCK YOU.

This is huge, amazing, wonderful news.

Obama to bypass Congress on mortgages - CBS News

"Building on the industry's experience with HARP over the last two years, we have identified several changes that will make the program accessible to more borrowers with mortgages owned or guaranteed by the Enterprises. Our goal in pursuing these changes is to create refinancing opportunities for these borrowers, while reducing risk for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and bringing a measure of stability to housing markets."

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have helped approximately 9 million families refinance into a lower cost or more sustainable mortgage product, approximately 10 percent of those via HARP. HARP is unique in that it is the only refinance program that enables borrowers who owe more than their home is worth to take advantage of low interest rates and other refinancing benefits. This program will continue to be available to borrowers with loans sold to the Enterprises on or before May 31, 2009 with current loan-t0-value (LTV) ratios above 80 percent.

The new program enhancements address several other key aspects of HARP including:

Eliminating certain risk-based fees for borrowers who refinance into shorter-term mortgages and lowering fees for other borrowers

Removing the current 125 percent LTV ceiling for fixed-rate mortgages backed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

Waiving certain representations and warranties that lenders commit to in making loans owned or guaranteed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

Eliminating the need for a new property appraisal where there is a reliable AVM (automated valuation model) estimate provided by the Enterprises

Extending the end date for HARP until Dec. 31, 2013 for loans originally sold to the Enterprises on or before May 31, 2009.

We need the correction not to push it down the road further. I doubt you understand that though, it's like a football game to many of you. Just cheering for your side to win/
 
I kid you not, Obama's new policical cliche is "we can't wait for congress". Even with a majority in the senate the whiner-in-chief has decided that the Constitution is meaningless and he intends to act like a dictator.
 
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You guys weren't so upset when this shit happened..
Like..what changed?
Obama was a huge WTF moment and wake up call for me. I was thinking "Well, there goes the War on Terror. Defense Spending will be cut and we'll withdraw from Iraq immediately".

But what did Obama do?

Re-Authorized the Patriot Act
Kept us in Iraq and Afghanistan
Got us into even more wars overseas

He is George Bush on steroids! (We have to be honest with ourselves)

That made me realize that the President is merely a Puppet controlled by forces much greater than him: The CFR, Tri-Lateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group.

He's not a puppet. He's a liar. He lied to you and you bought it, and now you mistakenly think that he's being coerced into doing things he had no intention of doing all along.
 
Exactly. If the Obstructionist Party hadn't been playing their reindeer games for the past many, many months, these lengths wouldn't be necessary.
the Obstructionist Party?

You mean like Chris Dodd (d), Maxine Waters (d) Bawney Fwank (d) blocking the W admin's attempts to reform and save Freddie and Fannie in 2003-4?

Ms. Pott, meet Mr. Kettle. Mr. Kettle, Ms. Pott.

Reform?

He wanted to eliminate them. That whole corruption investigation got them out of the mortgage game in the first place..and allowed a plethora of predatory lending outfits to get gazillion bad loans.

:lol:
Counts as reform in MY book. "Oh look a trillion dollar boondoggle. Let's end it!"
 
Why the hell are we even paying for a Congress?

We should send them all home and just let the Obama rule by dictator, I mean by executive orders.
 
A dictator doesn't need Congress, and lobbyists don't need elections.

If you think Executive Orders are disturbing, then maybe you should consider how the people you get to vote for honestly don't care about your interests.

Fight for your party, but your party won't return the favor.
 

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