Condomns and Candy for Kintergarten Kids

[rayboyusmc]

Here is a text of the full bill that he is being attacked on. I really don't see that they will have porn movies for the kiddies or free dildoes at the door.

SB99 - Illinois 2003
K-12 Comprehensive Sex Education Bill

(1) Factual information presented in course material and instruction shall be medically accurate and objective.
(2) All course material and instruction in classes that teach sex education and discuss sexual activity or behavior shall be age and developmentally appropriate.
(3) Course material and instruction shall include a discussion of sexual abstinence as a method to prevent unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections, including HIV.(4) Course material and instruction shall present the latest medically factual information regarding both the possible side effects and health benefits of all forms of contraception, including the success and failure
rates for the prevention of pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections, including HIV.
(5) Course material and instruction shall stress that sexually transmitted infections are serious possible hazards of sexual activity or behavior. Pupils shall be provided with statistics based on the latest medical information citing the failure and success rates of all contraceptive methods in preventing unintended pregnancy and HIV and other sexually transmitted infections.
(6) Course material and instruction shall advise pupils that it is unlawful for males or females of any age to engage in sexual conduct or have sexual relations with a minor as specified in Article 12 of the Criminal Code of 1961.
(7) Course material and instruction shall discuss and provide for the development of positive communication skills to maintain healthy relationships and avoid unwanted sexual activity.
(8) Course material and instruction shall emphasize that the pupil has the power to control personal behavior. (What, personal accountability?)Pupils shall be encouraged to base their actions on reasoning, self-discipline, sense of responsibility, self-control, and ethical considerations, such as respect for oneself and others.
(9) Course material and instruction shall teach pupils to not make unwanted physical and verbal sexual advances and how to say no to unwanted sexual advances and shall include information about verbal, physical, and
visual sexual harassment, including without limitation nonconsensual sexual advances, non consensual physical sexual contact, and rape by an acquaintance. The course material and instruction shall contain methods of preventing sexual assault by an acquaintance, including exercising good judgment and avoiding behavior that
impairs one’s judgment. The course material and instruction shall emphasize personal accountability and respect for others and shall also encourage youth to resist negative peer pressure. The course material and instruction shall inform pupils of the potential legal consequences of sexual assault by an acquaintance. Specifically, pupils shall be advised that it is unlawful to touch an intimate part of another person, as specified in the Criminal Code of 1961.
(10) Course material and instruction shall teach male pupils about male accountability for sexual violence and shall teach female students about reducing vulnerability for sexual violence.
(11) Course material and instruction shall teach pupils about counseling, medical, and legal resources available to survivors of sexual abuse and sexual assault, including resources for escaping violent relationships.
(12) Course material and instruction in classes that discuss sexual activity or behavior shall teach pupils that it is wrong to take advantage of or to exploit another person.
(13) Course material and instruction shall be free of racial, ethnic, gender, religious, and sexual orientation biases.

This is real communist shit, man.

This came from Michelle Malkins blog to show how bad the bill is.

 

[Care4all]

I don't get it? What is wrong with this bill? It seems pretty good to me for the most part?

 

[jillian]

There is NOTHING wrong with the bill. It was designed to deal with young kids in an age-appropriate way to protect them from sexual predators.

What an unworthy, goal, eh?

But it sounds good to the right wing extremist smear machine....

 

[random3434]

I like it.


I believe parents should have on ongoing dialog about sex with their children, but it doesn't hurt to also have extra info presented to them in school. Teens are more influenced by their peers than adults most of the time, so a sex education class could be effective for some, because they are learning with their peers.


My daughter's Junior High has already talked about STD's in Health Class, that was last year in 7th grade.


#3 and #7 stand out to me:


(3) Course material and instruction shall include a discussion of sexual abstinence as a method to prevent unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections, including HIV.


(7) Course material and instruction shall discuss and provide for the development of positive communication skills to maintain healthy relationships and avoid unwanted sexual activity.

 

[random3434]

I don't get it? What is wrong with this bill? It seems pretty good to me for the most part?

He was being facetious

 

[Orange_Juice]

The Republican's are just desperate and throwing shit at the wall hoping it sticks. McCain had a bad week, IMO

 

[dilloduck]

Great--offer it after school and make it open for anyone who wishes to attend. As far behind as our school are academically, the time could be much better spent teaching science or math instead of social skills.

 

[Silence]

it's just more bullshit being flung out in hopes of scaring the rural voter....

the repubs are lying, they know they are lying and that is why they say "well one COULD interpret the bill that way"

so they take the lowest common denomination and attach it, even though probably less than 1% of the population would read that bill and interpret it that way, and run with it.

it's digusting and it's shameful IMO.

there is nothing wrong with teaching children how to protect themselves against sexual predators.

 

[dilloduck]

it's just more bullshit being flung out in hopes of scaring the rural voter....

the repubs are lying, they know they are lying and that is why they say "well one COULD interpret the bill that way"

so they take the lowest common denomination and attach it, even though probably less than 1% of the population would read that bill and interpret it that way, and run with it.

it's digusting and it's shameful IMO.

there is nothing wrong with teaching children how to protect themselves against sexual predators.

no argument there--why waste school time to do it ?

 

[random3434]

no argument there--why waste school time to do it ?

There is this thing called Health Class.................

 

[Silence]

no argument there--why waste school time to do it ?

what? dillo are you a retard?

do you home school your children? if not, perhaps you should.

School is part of the community. why can't parents and school work as partners?

When you think of how much time is in the day you don't have to ask why it belongs in school... Kids spend 6 to 7 hours of their day in school.... most get home between 5 and 6 if their parents work, then there is homework and dinner and then bed by 9 or 10... when in that 3 to 4 hour window do you supppse a parent will find the time to have a comprehensive and detailed discussion on how to protect themselves?

what is wrong with setting time in class to teach them this information?

it's stupid to say it has no place in schools.

teaching children stranger danger is one of the most important things you can teach a young child.

 

[dilloduck]

There is this thing called Health Class.................

Why ?

 

[random3434]

Why ?

Just part of the State Standards.


Language Arts, Math, Science, Social Studies and Health are to be taught in schools.

Along with gym, music and art.

 

[rayboyusmc]

Social skills are just as important to future success as math and the other academic skills.

With the number of abortions and unwanted births (which can ruin a young girl's life) we need more of an understanding of what works and what doesn't as you get into that whole sexual mixed up crap of adole-scents etc.

I talked to a woman at work yesterday who wont' vote for Obama because he advocates teaching kids to be homosexuals in kintergarten. That is what she has taken from the McCain adds.

Sad that we can't deal with truth anymore in politics.

 

[dilloduck]

what? dillo are you a retard?

do you home school your children? if not, perhaps you should.

School is part of the community. why can't parents and school work as partners?

When you think of how much time is in the day you don't have to ask why it belongs in school... Kids spend 6 to 7 hours of their day in school.... most get home between 5 and 6 if their parents work, then there is homework and dinner and then bed by 9 or 10... when in that 3 to 4 hour window do you supppse a parent will find the time to have a comprehensive and detailed discussion on how to protect themselves?

what is wrong with setting time in class to teach them this information?

it's stupid to say it has no place in schools.

teaching children stranger danger is one of the most important things you can teach a young child.

no--I'm not a retard. National honor society, college, --all that rit rot.
MY son is 19, working, in college and doing fine ty. His comment of "health class" ? Boring and a big waste of time. He already knew it all.

Put down your selective hearing aid for a second and listen.
IF you don't have time to teach your child about how to be healthy and provide them with accurate sex ed, don't waste MY kids time at school so they can teach YOUR kid.

 

[Silence]

Why ?

because some parents are too stupid OR too lazy to teach their kids the facts.

you might not be either one and you're entitled to keep your kids out of those classes. But WHY would you want to prevent a parent who either doesn't have the time, desire or knowledge to properly educate their children on this subject?

dillo we all know how you feel, you express it every chance you get... my question to you is what is your issue with OTHER parents thinking that it's appropriate for this subject to be taught in school?

I taught my daughter about sex...I have no doubt that I gave her valuable and valid information, however, I still approved of her taking health in school just to reinforce what I told her OR to give her information that I might not have been aware of.

Do you also dispute the need for DARE programs in school? Those teach children the dangers of drug use.

 

[random3434]

no--I'm not a retard. National honor society, college, --all that rit rot.
MY son is 19, working, in college and doing fine ty. His comment of "health class" ? Boring and a big waste of time. He already knew it all.

Put down your selective hearing aid for a second and listen.
IF you don't have time to teach your child about how to be healthy and provide them with accurate sex ed, don't waste MY kids time at school so they can teach YOUR kid.[/QUOTE]

Yes, in a perfect world, that would be great dill.

But, SOME PARENTS aren't as great as you and I, are they? They may not talk to their children about sex ed because:


1) They are embarressd to talk about sex

2) They don't know how/what to say

3) Or~They think if they don't, their kid will never have sex before marriage.

 

[Denny Crane]

The bill looked resonable to me. I would't hesitate to allow a child of mine to be taught sex education under those guidlines.

 

[Gem]

silence wrote:

what? dillo are you a retard?

do you home school your children? if not, perhaps you should.

School is part of the community. why can't parents and school work as partners?

When you think of how much time is in the day you don't have to ask why it belongs in school... Kids spend 6 to 7 hours of their day in school.... most get home between 5 and 6 if their parents work, then there is homework and dinner and then bed by 9 or 10... when in that 3 to 4 hour window do you supppse a parent will find the time to have a comprehensive and detailed discussion on how to protect themselves?

what is wrong with setting time in class to teach them this information?

it's stupid to say it has no place in schools.

teaching children stranger danger is one of the most important things you can teach a young child

.


OMG, you are so right. Parents today are just way too busy to do something silly like raise their children and instill them with morals and values.

You know what...we better start providing adequate medical, dental, and vision care for all students, not just those with parents that can't afford it...that way, parents won't have to miss work to take their kids to the doctor or dentist...and if a kids gets sick...parents can just send their little ones to school (most of them do anyway) and we can have a doctor examine them at school, free of charge...school taxes can pay for it! And if a child is really sick, we can just have a "sick wing" of the school where they can rest and recupperate right in the building. That way, the school knows where the student is and can give them some work to do...and most importantly, mommy and/or daddy can still go to work.

And you know what? Parents often go to work early and stay at work late...so lets get the kids at 5AM and keep the kids till 8PM...that way we can make sure students eat three nutritious meals (gotta combat childhood obsesity, ya know!)...we can also make sure they do all their homework and then the school can spend the evening working on its "values and morals" curriculum. Then mommy and daddy can pick them up and take them home for bed...or, if they just can't make it to school after their long day at the office...the school can put them up in their dormitory for the night.

Teachers won't mind - after all, they didn't get into the profession to make money - and they've already been raising 1/2 of their students for years. Taxpayers won't mind...because we've slowly been taking more and more of their rights and responsibilities away from them for years, while charging more and more in taxes for an educational system thats an almost total failure. And parents won't mind...because it will let them get back to what is mos important to them....work!


Am I being sarcastic? Sure. Although as a teacher, I see more and more "parenting" roles being assigned to me instead of mom and dad every day. Some parents have the good sense to be upset about it....more seem like they can't hand the reins over to me fast enough.

Part of the reason conseratives don't like it when Obama says that he wants comprehensive, age-appropriate sex education taught to students at all levels is because once again...we are giving a right of the parent to the public school (a.k.a. the government).

It seems to me that some liberals just feel more comfortable pegging all conservatives as backwoods, religious nutters, who want to put chastity belts on our children and teach them that masturbation will send them to Hell. Nothing could be farther from the truth...the objection many conservatives have to things like this bill...is that it appears that Obama is very comfortable with the decision to make teaching his children about sexual predators, their bodies, their sexual organs, their sexual orientations, their sexual decisions, etc. the job of the public education system.

I think we should be incredibly careful about how much power and authority we give to our public schools.

 

[dilloduck]

Yes, in a perfect world, that would be great dill.

But, SOME PARENTS aren't as great as you and I, are they? They may not talk to their children about sex ed because:


1) They are embarressd to talk about sex

2) They don't know how/what to say

3) Or~They think if they don't, their kid will never have sex before marriage.

So we punish everyone else who has been responsible and caring enough to do it by making their kids sit through it all again ?
Our country is already sinking because we cater to the laziest and stupidest.
After the academic part of the school day is over, all those who parents who for some reason can't teach their kids the things they are supposed to can sned their kid to after school classes. Or in summer school.