Concealed Carry UP 215%. Murder DOWN 14%

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More guns means LESS killing. This should be obvious but the left fights it. Gun control, diversity, and socialism. Three concepts that always fail and yet the libs demand more more more.

Concealed Carry Up 215%, Murder Rate Down 14% - Breitbart

may 24 2017 Concealed carry permits rose 215 percent between 2007 and 2015, and the murder rate dropped 14 percent during that same time period.
In other words, more guns being carried for self-defense correlated with fewer murders.

On May 22, Breitbart News reported that the demand for concealed carry permits witnessed its greatest surge ever between May 2016 and May 2017. Fox News referenced Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) data showing there were 14.5 million permit holders in May 2016 and approximately 15.7 million in May 2017.

Now the NRA is tweeting data which shows that the bigger picture is not just the one-year surge but a 215 percent jump in concealed carry permits between 2007 and 2015.
 
Obviously the solution is to get concealed carry up by 1000% then crime will go down by 60%! You never see anyone break into a police station on a shooting spree now do ya?
 
More guns means LESS killing. This should be obvious but the left fights it. Gun control, diversity, and socialism. Three concepts that always fail and yet the libs demand more more more.

Concealed Carry Up 215%, Murder Rate Down 14% - Breitbart

may 24 2017 Concealed carry permits rose 215 percent between 2007 and 2015, and the murder rate dropped 14 percent during that same time period.
In other words, more guns being carried for self-defense correlated with fewer murders.

On May 22, Breitbart News reported that the demand for concealed carry permits witnessed its greatest surge ever between May 2016 and May 2017. Fox News referenced Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) data showing there were 14.5 million permit holders in May 2016 and approximately 15.7 million in May 2017.

Now the NRA is tweeting data which shows that the bigger picture is not just the one-year surge but a 215 percent jump in concealed carry permits between 2007 and 2015.
So let me see, we have 30000 gun deaths every year.
375000000 guns, yup we need way more
Breitbart? Hilarious, info wars next.
I think every person should be loaded down with 20 firearms each.
Whoops our 20000 suicides might go up?
And how many occasions have you interceded and blown away bad guys?. Let me guess zero
Trained people say idiots with guns is the
Last thing we need to intercede in gun situations. Blast away and kill more innocents
 
More guns means LESS killing. This should be obvious but the left fights it. Gun control, diversity, and socialism. Three concepts that always fail and yet the libs demand more more more.

Concealed Carry Up 215%, Murder Rate Down 14% - Breitbart

may 24 2017 Concealed carry permits rose 215 percent between 2007 and 2015, and the murder rate dropped 14 percent during that same time period.
In other words, more guns being carried for self-defense correlated with fewer murders.

On May 22, Breitbart News reported that the demand for concealed carry permits witnessed its greatest surge ever between May 2016 and May 2017. Fox News referenced Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) data showing there were 14.5 million permit holders in May 2016 and approximately 15.7 million in May 2017.

Now the NRA is tweeting data which shows that the bigger picture is not just the one-year surge but a 215 percent jump in concealed carry permits between 2007 and 2015.
Looks like you still don't know the def of liberal.
Might help your argument
Still watching knees news?
Me too
 
Obviously the solution is to get concealed carry up by 1000% then crime will go down by 60%! You never see anyone break into a police station on a shooting spree now do ya?
Just wondered how many breaking so you have repulsed? Maybe the robbers can see the bulge in your pants.
What a brave hoot
These gun doublwide brave boys would be fleeing for the hills when the first drone comes over.
 
Obviously the solution is to get concealed carry up by 1000% then crime will go down by 60%! You never see anyone break into a police station on a shooting spree now do ya?
Just wondered how many breaking so you have repulsed? Maybe the robbers can see the bulge in your pants.
What a brave hoot
These gun doublwide brave boys would be fleeing for the hills when the first drone comes over.

delete. ignorant jabbering illiterate hate-filled nonsense.
 
More guns means LESS killing. This should be obvious but the left fights it. Gun control, diversity, and socialism. Three concepts that always fail and yet the libs demand more more more.

Concealed Carry Up 215%, Murder Rate Down 14% - Breitbart

may 24 2017 Concealed carry permits rose 215 percent between 2007 and 2015, and the murder rate dropped 14 percent during that same time period.
In other words, more guns being carried for self-defense correlated with fewer murders.

On May 22, Breitbart News reported that the demand for concealed carry permits witnessed its greatest surge ever between May 2016 and May 2017. Fox News referenced Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) data showing there were 14.5 million permit holders in May 2016 and approximately 15.7 million in May 2017.

Now the NRA is tweeting data which shows that the bigger picture is not just the one-year surge but a 215 percent jump in concealed carry permits between 2007 and 2015.

Carrying certainly helps against violent crimes, but the real problem are the large numbers of minorities that commit the crimes at vastly higher rates than whites. Multiculturalism is the real cause of high crime rates.
 
More guns means LESS killing. This should be obvious but the left fights it. Gun control, diversity, and socialism. Three concepts that always fail and yet the libs demand more more more.

Concealed Carry Up 215%, Murder Rate Down 14% - Breitbart

may 24 2017 Concealed carry permits rose 215 percent between 2007 and 2015, and the murder rate dropped 14 percent during that same time period.
In other words, more guns being carried for self-defense correlated with fewer murders.

On May 22, Breitbart News reported that the demand for concealed carry permits witnessed its greatest surge ever between May 2016 and May 2017. Fox News referenced Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) data showing there were 14.5 million permit holders in May 2016 and approximately 15.7 million in May 2017.

Now the NRA is tweeting data which shows that the bigger picture is not just the one-year surge but a 215 percent jump in concealed carry permits between 2007 and 2015.
So let me see, we have 30000 gun deaths every year.
375000000 guns, yup we need way more
Breitbart? Hilarious, info wars next.
I think every person should be loaded down with 20 firearms each.
Whoops our 20000 suicides might go up?
And how many occasions have you interceded and blown away bad guys?. Let me guess zero
Trained people say idiots with guns is the
Last thing we need to intercede in gun situations. Blast away and kill more innocents


First.....the majority of gun deaths are suicide....and they do not count since Japan, China and South Korea, all have absolute gun control...and higher suicide rates than we do.......it also doesn't count because we had more non gun suicides than gun suicides the last two years running....and before that it was still almost equal...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide...

22,018

Non Gun suicide...

22,078
---------

2014....
Gun suicide....21,334
non gun....21,439

 
More guns means LESS killing. This should be obvious but the left fights it. Gun control, diversity, and socialism. Three concepts that always fail and yet the libs demand more more more.

Concealed Carry Up 215%, Murder Rate Down 14% - Breitbart

may 24 2017 Concealed carry permits rose 215 percent between 2007 and 2015, and the murder rate dropped 14 percent during that same time period.
In other words, more guns being carried for self-defense correlated with fewer murders.

On May 22, Breitbart News reported that the demand for concealed carry permits witnessed its greatest surge ever between May 2016 and May 2017. Fox News referenced Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) data showing there were 14.5 million permit holders in May 2016 and approximately 15.7 million in May 2017.

Now the NRA is tweeting data which shows that the bigger picture is not just the one-year surge but a 215 percent jump in concealed carry permits between 2007 and 2015.
So let me see, we have 30000 gun deaths every year.
375000000 guns, yup we need way more
Breitbart? Hilarious, info wars next.
I think every person should be loaded down with 20 firearms each.
Whoops our 20000 suicides might go up?
And how many occasions have you interceded and blown away bad guys?. Let me guess zero
Trained people say idiots with guns is the
Last thing we need to intercede in gun situations. Blast away and kill more innocents


So far.....you mislead everyone by grouping all gun deaths.....so to continue showing how you are wrong....

2015....gun suicide.....22,018
2015, non gun suicide.. 22,078

Now....accidental gun death...keeping in mind we have close to 400 million guns in the country and over 15 million people carrying guns for self defense...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824

So......your weak post about guns is even weaker....what percent of 15 million people carrying guns and what percent of 400 million guns is 486?
 
More guns means LESS killing. This should be obvious but the left fights it. Gun control, diversity, and socialism. Three concepts that always fail and yet the libs demand more more more.

Concealed Carry Up 215%, Murder Rate Down 14% - Breitbart

may 24 2017 Concealed carry permits rose 215 percent between 2007 and 2015, and the murder rate dropped 14 percent during that same time period.
In other words, more guns being carried for self-defense correlated with fewer murders.

On May 22, Breitbart News reported that the demand for concealed carry permits witnessed its greatest surge ever between May 2016 and May 2017. Fox News referenced Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) data showing there were 14.5 million permit holders in May 2016 and approximately 15.7 million in May 2017.

Now the NRA is tweeting data which shows that the bigger picture is not just the one-year surge but a 215 percent jump in concealed carry permits between 2007 and 2015.
So let me see, we have 30000 gun deaths every year.
375000000 guns, yup we need way more
Breitbart? Hilarious, info wars next.
I think every person should be loaded down with 20 firearms each.
Whoops our 20000 suicides might go up?
And how many occasions have you interceded and blown away bad guys?. Let me guess zero
Trained people say idiots with guns is the
Last thing we need to intercede in gun situations. Blast away and kill more innocents


Now for some perspective...that you didn't give....look at the numbers...see how weak you point is?

Accidental gun deaths 2015....489

Accidental car deaths 2015...36,161

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC
Total car accidental death....

2015....36,161--------- Gun murder 9,616
2014....33,736 -------- Gun murder 8,312
2013....33,804-------- Gun murder 8,454
2012....34,935 ------- Gun murder 8,897
 
More guns means LESS killing. This should be obvious but the left fights it. Gun control, diversity, and socialism. Three concepts that always fail and yet the libs demand more more more.

Concealed Carry Up 215%, Murder Rate Down 14% - Breitbart

may 24 2017 Concealed carry permits rose 215 percent between 2007 and 2015, and the murder rate dropped 14 percent during that same time period.
In other words, more guns being carried for self-defense correlated with fewer murders.

On May 22, Breitbart News reported that the demand for concealed carry permits witnessed its greatest surge ever between May 2016 and May 2017. Fox News referenced Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) data showing there were 14.5 million permit holders in May 2016 and approximately 15.7 million in May 2017.

Now the NRA is tweeting data which shows that the bigger picture is not just the one-year surge but a 215 percent jump in concealed carry permits between 2007 and 2015.
So let me see, we have 30000 gun deaths every year.
375000000 guns, yup we need way more
Breitbart? Hilarious, info wars next.
I think every person should be loaded down with 20 firearms each.
Whoops our 20000 suicides might go up?
And how many occasions have you interceded and blown away bad guys?. Let me guess zero
Trained people say idiots with guns is the
Last thing we need to intercede in gun situations. Blast away and kill more innocents
Can't refute the facts so you make up lies. Typical.
 
More guns means LESS killing. This should be obvious but the left fights it. Gun control, diversity, and socialism. Three concepts that always fail and yet the libs demand more more more.

Concealed Carry Up 215%, Murder Rate Down 14% - Breitbart

may 24 2017 Concealed carry permits rose 215 percent between 2007 and 2015, and the murder rate dropped 14 percent during that same time period.
In other words, more guns being carried for self-defense correlated with fewer murders.

On May 22, Breitbart News reported that the demand for concealed carry permits witnessed its greatest surge ever between May 2016 and May 2017. Fox News referenced Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) data showing there were 14.5 million permit holders in May 2016 and approximately 15.7 million in May 2017.

Now the NRA is tweeting data which shows that the bigger picture is not just the one-year surge but a 215 percent jump in concealed carry permits between 2007 and 2015.
So let me see, we have 30000 gun deaths every year.
375000000 guns, yup we need way more
Breitbart? Hilarious, info wars next.
I think every person should be loaded down with 20 firearms each.
Whoops our 20000 suicides might go up?
And how many occasions have you interceded and blown away bad guys?. Let me guess zero
Trained people say idiots with guns is the
Last thing we need to intercede in gun situations. Blast away and kill more innocents


And to show how weak you post is...of the 30,000 gun deaths...

22,018 were suicide
489 were accidents....

How about gun murder.....with 320 million people in the country.....

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

Gun murder....9,616


And to put this in perspective as well.....of those 9,616.....70-80% of those victims...are other criminals.....engaging in criminal activity or part of the crime world......

Your post becomes less and less relevant....
 
More guns means LESS killing. This should be obvious but the left fights it. Gun control, diversity, and socialism. Three concepts that always fail and yet the libs demand more more more.

Concealed Carry Up 215%, Murder Rate Down 14% - Breitbart

may 24 2017 Concealed carry permits rose 215 percent between 2007 and 2015, and the murder rate dropped 14 percent during that same time period.
In other words, more guns being carried for self-defense correlated with fewer murders.

On May 22, Breitbart News reported that the demand for concealed carry permits witnessed its greatest surge ever between May 2016 and May 2017. Fox News referenced Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) data showing there were 14.5 million permit holders in May 2016 and approximately 15.7 million in May 2017.

Now the NRA is tweeting data which shows that the bigger picture is not just the one-year surge but a 215 percent jump in concealed carry permits between 2007 and 2015.
So let me see, we have 30000 gun deaths every year.
375000000 guns, yup we need way more
Breitbart? Hilarious, info wars next.
I think every person should be loaded down with 20 firearms each.
Whoops our 20000 suicides might go up?
And how many occasions have you interceded and blown away bad guys?. Let me guess zero
Trained people say idiots with guns is the
Last thing we need to intercede in gun situations. Blast away and kill more innocents


And just how foolish is your post...this foolish...especially this part....

375000000 guns, yup we need way more

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400 million guns in private hands and over 15 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2016...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


There is nothing about the gun debate that you are even remotely accurate about......the truth, the facts and the reality show you are wrong...on all of your points...
 
More guns means LESS killing. This should be obvious but the left fights it. Gun control, diversity, and socialism. Three concepts that always fail and yet the libs demand more more more.

Concealed Carry Up 215%, Murder Rate Down 14% - Breitbart

may 24 2017 Concealed carry permits rose 215 percent between 2007 and 2015, and the murder rate dropped 14 percent during that same time period.
In other words, more guns being carried for self-defense correlated with fewer murders.

On May 22, Breitbart News reported that the demand for concealed carry permits witnessed its greatest surge ever between May 2016 and May 2017. Fox News referenced Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) data showing there were 14.5 million permit holders in May 2016 and approximately 15.7 million in May 2017.

Now the NRA is tweeting data which shows that the bigger picture is not just the one-year surge but a 215 percent jump in concealed carry permits between 2007 and 2015.
So let me see, we have 30000 gun deaths every year.
375000000 guns, yup we need way more
Breitbart? Hilarious, info wars next.
I think every person should be loaded down with 20 firearms each.
Whoops our 20000 suicides might go up?
And how many occasions have you interceded and blown away bad guys?. Let me guess zero
Trained people say idiots with guns is the
Last thing we need to intercede in gun situations. Blast away and kill more innocents


And those so called experts....don't know what they are talking about.....Americans, most with very little to no training....use guns to stop violent criminal attack 1,500,000 times a year...according to bill clinton and barak obama.......
 
More guns means LESS killing. This should be obvious but the left fights it. Gun control, diversity, and socialism. Three concepts that always fail and yet the libs demand more more more.

Concealed Carry Up 215%, Murder Rate Down 14% - Breitbart

may 24 2017 Concealed carry permits rose 215 percent between 2007 and 2015, and the murder rate dropped 14 percent during that same time period.
In other words, more guns being carried for self-defense correlated with fewer murders.

On May 22, Breitbart News reported that the demand for concealed carry permits witnessed its greatest surge ever between May 2016 and May 2017. Fox News referenced Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) data showing there were 14.5 million permit holders in May 2016 and approximately 15.7 million in May 2017.

Now the NRA is tweeting data which shows that the bigger picture is not just the one-year surge but a 215 percent jump in concealed carry permits between 2007 and 2015.

But Donnie says murders are at their highest level in 30 years. Are you saying Trump is a liar???
 
More guns means LESS killing. This should be obvious but the left fights it. Gun control, diversity, and socialism. Three concepts that always fail and yet the libs demand more more more.

Concealed Carry Up 215%, Murder Rate Down 14% - Breitbart

may 24 2017 Concealed carry permits rose 215 percent between 2007 and 2015, and the murder rate dropped 14 percent during that same time period.
In other words, more guns being carried for self-defense correlated with fewer murders.

On May 22, Breitbart News reported that the demand for concealed carry permits witnessed its greatest surge ever between May 2016 and May 2017. Fox News referenced Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) data showing there were 14.5 million permit holders in May 2016 and approximately 15.7 million in May 2017.

Now the NRA is tweeting data which shows that the bigger picture is not just the one-year surge but a 215 percent jump in concealed carry permits between 2007 and 2015.

But Donnie says murders are at their highest level in 30 years. Are you saying Trump is a liar???


No...he is right...the murder rate went up after the Ferguson Effect started....police all over the country have cut back on aggressive policing...not only in this country but even in Europe...our major cities....where the police are under the worst attacks by people like you....are backing off...and only responding to calls. They are not actively trying to stop criminals they see in their neighborhoods...so the crime rate is going up....but with Trump in office this should turn around...
 
So let me see, we have 30000 gun deaths every year.


And half those are suicides and don't count. And the other half are mostly blacks killing blacks in gang wars. Stay away from black men and you'll be fine.
 
Carrying certainly helps against violent crimes, but the real problem are the large numbers of minorities that commit the crimes at vastly higher rates than whites. Multiculturalism is the real cause of high crime rates.

As Bill O'Reilly says - "We don't have a gun problem. We have a black male problem".
 
Now for some perspective...that you didn't give....look at the numbers...see how weak you point is?
Accidental gun deaths 2015....489
Accidental car deaths 2015...36,161

Yup - highway homicide is a far far bigger problem than guns. And a much more correctable one. Hell we could prevent 5,000 highway deaths every year by just lowering speed limits back to 55. And save billions of dollars. But libs say forget it.
 
The murder rate dropped 14% between 2007-2015? Then why was orange-turd whining about how apocalyptic crime is in the US? And what causal link do you have between 'concealed carry' and less murder? Other than con wet dream lotion.
 

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