Comparing Coalitions

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    http://www.nationalreview.com/levin/levin200409281110.asp

    Comparing Coalitions

    Iraq is more multilateral than, say, Korea.
    So, the U.S. coalition in Iraq is insignificant? Well, let's compare it to the U.S.-led U.N. coalition during the peak of the Korean War.

    Korean War (peak troop numbers, by country, excluding Republic of Korea forces):
    United States: 348,000
    Great Britain: 14,198
    Canada: 6,146
    Turkey: 5,455
    Australia: 2,282
    Philippines: 1,496
    New Zealand: 1,389
    Thailand: 1,294
    Ethiopia: 1,271
    Greece: 1,263
    France: 1,119
    Colombia: 1,068
    Belgium/Luxembourg: 944
    South Africa: 826
    Netherlands: 819
    Total: 16 nations; 387,570 combat troops

    Iraq War (troop numbers, by country, as of July 2004, excluding Iraqi forces):
    United States: 126,500
    Great Britain: 8,300
    Italy: 3,120
    Poland: 2,400
    Ukraine: 1,650
    Netherlands: 1,400
    Australia: 850
    Romania: 800
    Japan: 600
    South Korea: 600
    Denmark: 520
    Bulgaria: 485
    Thailand: 450
    El Salvador: 380
    Hungary: 300
    Singapore: 200
    Norway: 155
    Azerbaijan: 150
    Georgia: 150
    Mongolia: 140
    Latvia: 120
    Portugal: 110
    Czech Republic: 110
    Lithuania: 105
    Slovakia: 105
    Albania: 70
    New Zealand: 60
    Tonga: 45
    Estonia: 40
    Kazakhstan: 30
    Macedonia: 30
    Moldova: 10
    Total: 32 nations; 149,985 combat troops


    In terms of overall troop level, the Iraq war is a much smaller war than the Korean War. Yet the number of nations in the Iraq war coalition currently doubles the Korean War coalition. Moreover, the United States was by far the largest contributor of military personnel in the Korean War, even though that was a U.N.-led coalition. And Poland, the Ukraine, and the Netherlands each contribute more military personnel to the Iraq War coalition than France contributed to the Korean War. (No surprise.)The Korean War was fought with minimal support from France, no support from the then-Federal Republic of Germany, and against the Russian-backed Communist regime in North Korea.

    The fact is that President Bush has built a real and impressive coalition in Iraq.
     
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    Would you look at the country's on the Iraq list though? I assume this list is to show that: World support is important and we have more world support now than in Korea. However, it does matter who is supporting you. If I get in a fight I would rather have 1 300 pound linebacker than 3 100 pound Doom computer players.

    I know if you gave me a blank map I couldn't label most of the countries in the Iraq war while I could in the Korea list. How many could most people in this country label? (I'm making a connection between "labelability" and "importance" - might be incorrect but may be pretty accurate)
     
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    assuming you are referring to France and Germany, they have made it very clear, we could do NOTHING to make them join an international coalition. So is your position that we should join them?
     
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    don't forget, spain and the philippines were once part of the iraq coalition.
    outside events affected their withdrawl.
     
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    Most of those troops numbers are insignificant compared to ours but to those countries that probably represents a good portion of their troops unfortunately. I'd take any help that any country wants to give us in the fight to kill terrorists and the regimes that fund and harbor them.
     
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    and that's a point most people forget... their militaries aren't huge like the USA or China. and these smaller countries have to keep a good number of troops for their own homeland defense, as well as in case of national emergencies or problems in their region.
     

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