Community Organizers & the Subprime Mortgages

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You do realize the GOP stole the last two elections, right?

no, but continue whining about it. it's amusing

And you do realize that no election has ever been won by the voter fraud you are talking about, right?

except for 1960 and numerous local elections in MA,IL,TX etc, you're absolutely right

Gosh, why don't we win elections if we are such cheaters?

because you suck at it?

So you be sure those Sequoia, Diebold and ES&S voting machines are hacked.

Also, make sure you have hanging chads, and a **** like Katherine Harris running the elections in Florida and a bastard like Ken Blackwell running Ohio's elections.

you eat with that mouth? ewww

TEDon't give Obama a chance for a recount. Hurry up and certify the votes.

you mean like in 2000? lol

Don't let election officials have "sleepovers" with voting machines in Ohio like last time.
Don't throw out votes and have two Ohio election bitches go to jail for 18 months a piece for it.
Don't challange soldiers votes when they are in the middle east.
Don't challange people who just got foreclosed by saying they don't live where they say they live.
And don't let the Federal Courts decide who gets Florida's electorals. Let Florida decide.

Now after reading all that, do you still want to sound like a dumb bitch and claim the democrats are the ones committing massive voter fraud? You truly are a freak lady.

uh, yeah, thanks for asking. have a nice, fully medicated day, bud.

 

[AllieBaba]

Featured Article - WSJ.com
So, less than a week before the midterm elections, four workers from Acorn, the liberal activist group that has registered millions of voters, have been indicted by a federal grand jury for submitting false voter registration forms to the Kansas City, Missouri, election board. But hey, who needs voter ID laws?

ACORN Workers Indicted For Alleged Voter Fraud - Politics News Story - KMBC Kansas City
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Four people have been indicted on charges of voter fraud in Kansas City, officials said Wednesday.

Investigators said questionable registration forms for new voters were collected by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, a group that works to improve minority and low-income communities....
"There is some motive behind it -- this is not accidental," said Ray James with the Kansas City Election Board.

Election officials said some of the application cards had false addresses, signatures and phone numbers.

Power Line: Democratic Voter Fraud, Intimidation Confirmed
Democratic Voter Fraud, Intimidation Confirmed

Several readers wrote to point out this study of the 2004 election by the American Center for Voting Rights. We reported extensively on efforts by the Democrats to intimidate Republican voters in the months leading up to the election, and to commit fraud on election day. Those anectotal reports are confirmed by the Center's report. I'm still working my way through the full text, but here are excerpts from the executive summary:

[A] careful review of the facts shows that in 2004, paid Democrat operatives were far more involved in voter intimidation and suppression efforts than their Republican counterparts. Examples include:
* Paid Democrat operatives charged with slashing tires of 25 Republican get-out-the-vote vans in Milwaukee on the morning of Election Day.

* Misleading telephone calls made by Democrat operatives targeting Republican voters in Ohio with the wrong date for the election and faulty polling place information.

* Intimidating and deceiving mailings and telephone calls paid for by the DNC threatening Republican volunteers in Florida with legal action.

* Union-coordinated intimidation and violence campaign targeting Republican campaign offices and volunteers resulting in a broken arm for a GOP volunteer in Florida.

Vote fraud and voter registration fraud were significant problems in at least a dozen states around the county. Vote fraud is a reality in America that occurred not only in large battleground states like Wisconsin but in places like Alabama and Kentucky. The record indicates that in 2004, voter registration fraud was mainly the work of so-called “nonpartisan” groups such as Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) and NAACP National Voter Fund. Examples include:

* Joint task force in Wisconsin found “clear evidence of fraud in the Nov. 2 election in Milwaukee,” including more than 200 felon voters, more than 100 double voters and thousands more ballots cast than voters recorded as having voted in the city.

* NAACP National Voter Fund worker in Ohio paid crack cocaine in exchange for a large number of fraudulent voter registration cards in names of Dick Tracy, Mary Poppins and other fictional characters.

* Former ACORN worker said there was “a lot of fraud committed” by group in Florida, as ACORN workers submitted thousands of fraudulent registrations in a dozen states across the country, resulting in a statewide investigation of the group in Florida and multiple indictments and convictions of ACORN/Project Vote workers for voter registration fraud in several states.


The Democrats have organized massive efforts to subvert the democratic process over the last several election cycles. Voter fraud is still the great unacknowledged issue of our democracy. Ominously, violence has more recently supplemented fraud in the Democrats' arsenal of dirty tricks. We are a long way from solving these problems, but shining the light of publicity on them is a first step.

Local News | Felony charges filed against 7 in state's biggest case of voter-registration fraud | Seattle Times Newspaper
Felony charges filed against 7 in state's biggest case of voter-registration fraud
By Keith Ervin

Seattle Times staff reporter

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WA court: Felons can't vote until legal fines paid
King and Pierce County prosecutors filed felony charges today against seven people who allegedly committed the biggest voter-registration fraud in state history.

The defendants, who were paid employees and supervisors of ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, concocted the scheme as an easy way to get paid, not as an attempt to influence the outcome of elections, King County Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterberg said.

Are you really sure you want to talk any more about voter fraud?

Go ahead and provide links to information about all the indictments for the imaginary Florida voter fraud. Don't look too hard, you'll probably find that some Democrats got their wrists slapped fairly hard for perpetrating fraud upon the people.






We wish this were an aberration, but allegations of fraud have tainted Acorn voter drives across the country. Acorn workers have been convicted in Wisconsin and Colorado, and investigations are still under way in Ohio, Tennessee and Pennsylvania.

The good news for anyone who cares about voter integrity is that the Justice Department finally seems poised to connect these dots instead of dismissing such revelations as the work of a few yahoos. After the federal indictments were handed up in Kansas City this week, the U.S. Attorney's office said in a statement that "This national investigation is very much ongoing."

 

[AllieBaba]

Gore didn't fly to Ohio in the middle of the night to meet with Ken Blackwell, Bush did.

Oh, and I forgot another way the GOP stole Ohio. They shorted heavily black areas of voting machines. Expect long waits this election too. The GOP want to make us wait 4 hours to vote. I say make Election day a national holiday, but the GOP would NEVER do that. God forbid everyone votes.

Here are some interesting stories about how the GOP stole the last two elections. I can't wait to read Allie's "facts". LOL.

ThomHartmann.com - 'Stinking Evidence' of Possible Election Fraud Found in Florida

ThomHartmann.com - Evidence Mounts That The Vote May Have Been Hacked

ThomHartmann.com - "If You Want To Win An Election, Just Control The Voting Machines"

ThomHartmann.com - How To Take Back A Stolen Election

"Possible" "may have" etc., and all from one source.

The fact is, this is propoganda, nothing was ever proven and believe me you guys tried every dirty trick in the book to steal the election. And you couldn't do it because there was no wrong doing. Do you really think if there was voter fraud, with all the avenues you guys ran down trying to scotch it, you wouldn't have turned up something?

The revotes proved you wrong. The people refused to support your lies, and eventually, the courts upheld the decision. You did your best to steal an election, and you were even too stupid to pull that off.

Get over it.

 

[sealybobo]

The American Center for Voting Rights or ACVR was a non-profit organization founded by Mark F. "Thor" Hearne that operated from March 2005 to May 2007 and pushed for laws to reduce voter intimidation and voter fraud, and supported requiring photo ID for voters. Its lobbying arm was called the American Center for Voting Rights Legislative Fund. Critics noted that it was "the only prominent non-governmental organization claiming that voter fraud is a major problem," and called the Center a Republican Party front group whose support of a photo ID requirement was intended to suppress the minority vote.[1]

Mark F. "Thor" Hearne, founder and general counsel. Former vice president and director of election operations for the Republican National Lawyers Association.

The ACVR was dissolved in May 2007, and the web pages ac4vr.com and AmericanCenterForVotingRights.com were taken down.[1]

The dissolution of ACVR came several weeks after the Election Assistance Commission issued a report that said the pervasiveness of fraud was open to debate.[23] "The DoJ devoted unprecedented resources to ferreting out polling-place fraud over five years and appears to have found not a single prosecutable case across the country,"

 

[sealybobo]

Moreover, evidence was accumulating that the issue of voter fraud had been pushed by the GOP in an effort to mask voter suppression. [24] Much of the evidence has emerged in media reports and congressional hearings into the firings of U.S. attorneys in at least eight cities in 2006, which "led to allegations that Republican officials pressed some of the fired prosecutors to bring voter fraud cases in hard-fought races." [25]

For example, Bradley Schlozman, the interim U.S. attorney in Kansas City, brought a controversial set of indictments for voter-registration fraud several days before the 2006 election in Missouri. The cases appeared to flout DoJ policy, which discouraged election-related indictments too close to Election Day. Schlozman told the Senate judiciary committee that he acted at the "direction" of the DoJ's Public Integrity Section,[26] testimony he later recanted. [25]

The indictments involved operatives paid by the not-for-profit organization ACORN, who allegedly submitted thousands of fraudulent voter registration forms in Kansas City and St. Louis, Missouri. Five of these operatives have since been indicted and plead guilty or convicted in federal court to charges of vote fraud and identity theft. [27][28][29]

Several states have adopted laws requiring voters to provide some form of government-issued identification before casting a ballot. The strictest of these requirements is the Indiana photo-ID requirement which was challenged by the Indiana Democratic Party and the American Civil Liberties Union. This law was upheld by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit.[30] The U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Arizona voter ID law against a similar challenge. Similar laws have been upheld by state courts in Pennsylvania, but struck down in Missouri and Georgia.[31][32]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Center_for_Voting_Rights

devil is in the details allie. this is your source? wiki says this. tell me what facts in wiki you object to and I'll substantiate the information is in deed acurate.

I know what happened. You don't know what happened. Or, you are a liar like Dick Chaney and Karl Rove. Only thing is, I see what they get out of it. What do you get?

 

[sealybobo]

"Possible" "may have" etc., and all from one source.

The fact is, this is propoganda, nothing was ever proven and believe me you guys tried every dirty trick in the book to steal the election. And you couldn't do it because there was no wrong doing. Do you really think if there was voter fraud, with all the avenues you guys ran down trying to scotch it, you wouldn't have turned up something?

The revotes proved you wrong. The people refused to support your lies, and eventually, the courts upheld the decision. You did your best to steal an election, and you were even too stupid to pull that off.

Get over it.

No, the Supreme Court ruled and Gore knew he got screwed, but accepted it for the good of our country. Lots of books have been written. We know what happened. Just because NBC won't do a Primetime special until it is too late doesn't mean it didn't happen.

You've been wrong before. LOTS OF TIMES.

Everyone who thinks the GOP didn't steal Florida, see who agrees with you? ALLIE!!!

 

[KMAN]

It's big city living buddy. We don't all live in the country, or suburbs.

And with all the jobs that went down south, which state up north isn't strugging? I'm in Michigan. You sent all our jobs to China.

But hey, it isn't like the red neck states are doing well. Some say they are hit hardest by this mess.

How come Bush's no child left behind left Chicago kids behind? Maybe if the next president cared about inner city schools, they wouldn't suck. Fuck giving tax breaks to private schools. 90% of our kids go to public schools. Fuck your rich kids. LOL. Now even rich kids get tax breaks? LOL.

I don't think I sent your jobs to China... Perhaps if there weren't so many laws/restrictions and union rules it would be more affordable for companies to to business in your state...

I feel sorry for you... You always blame someone/something else then the people who are really responsible... Bigger Government is not the answer.

I wish you well, but I prefer not to converse with you any longer.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

That's it. Divide into states. Red states get expensive insurance, no abortion, pay for war, privatized military, tax breaks to the rich, deregulations, privatize social security, christian state, teach creationalism, zero social programs, no child left behind, outsource jobs, trickle down.

I guarantee middle class reds would defect. Illegal immigrants would serve the rich in the red states until their economy completely collapsed, and then we'd probably bail them out as usual.

Wow... So you're advocating that leftist should all gather in one nation and leave the rest of us ALONE?

I'm IN! And please don't let the door hit you on the ass, as you make your way to the future Islamic Republic of Stupidistan...

Imagine a nation where every citizen is eager and free to make their own way; uninterested in 'what the government can do for them...' and suspect of anyone that asks; Imagine a nation where each individual finds everything he earned in his paycheck at the end of the week... Imagine a nation where people didn't expect that their particular sexual kink was something they should make public and demand the rest of us celebrate it or face accusations of "HATE," where people's shortcomings weren't held up as a means to ply pity in hopes of establishing political clout; where cultural standards were respected for what they are, the guidelines which point a citizen towards what is and is not acceptable behavior; where unemployed people get hungry and use that incentive to get off their ass and go to work... where they don't expect their neighbor to subsidize them, because they're in "NEED..."

Hell yes... GET OUT ALREADY

We'll give you 30 days to get your comrades the hell out, at which time we'll happily 'move' them ourselves... they won't be hard to spot... as we'll be reinstituting the requirement to pledge allegiance to the United States and they'll be the one's with their hats on, flapping their gums, not facing the flag and not placing their right hand over their heart. It really shouldn't take more than a couple of days...

 

[user_name_guest]

Sealybole vision of a liberal state will be something from a Zimbabwean currency. In sealybolo mind, everyone is millionaires as is the case in Zimbabwe. The only problem, $1,000,000 in Zimbabwe is $1 in the States. That means everyone could be rich. Oh wait, in Zimbabwe (besides their leader), everyone is poor. But everyone is a millionaire. So who do you tax?

 

[AllieBaba]

No, the Supreme Court ruled and Gore knew he got screwed, but accepted it for the good of our country. Lots of books have been written. We know what happened. Just because NBC won't do a Primetime special until it is too late doesn't mean it didn't happen.

You've been wrong before. LOTS OF TIMES.

Everyone who thinks the GOP didn't steal Florida, see who agrees with you? ALLIE!!!

Oh, yeah, like "for the good of the country" he accepted the two recounts and the fact that nobody came forward to claim voter fraud.

Gore's a great patriot.

*Snort*.

Have you found a single voter who supports the idiotic claims of "voter fraud"? It's been four years now, and I haven't heard of any.....

 

[American_Jihad]

Hillary Donor Ripping Off Minorities w/Subprime Mortgages
But Hillary Clinton got paid, so it's fine.
December 28, 2015
Daniel Greenfield

Lefty social justice billionaires really having a thing for ripping off minorities with subprime mortgage scams... for social justice. There were the Sandlers, who helped cause with financial crisis and used their ill-gotten gains to fund the Center for American Progress. And, unsurprisingly, Warren Buffett is riding the same bus to social justice hell.

The company is controlled by Warren Buffett, one of the world’s richest men, but its methods hardly match Buffett’s honest, folksy image: Clayton systematically pursues unwitting minority homebuyers and baits them into costly subprime loans, many of which are doomed to fail

I'm shocked, shocked that a lefty social justice warrior is really exploiting minorities. It's the most unexpected news since that sex offender going on a rampage.

Clayton’s predatory practices have damaged minority communities — from rural black enclaves in the Louisiana Delta, across Spanish-speaking swaths of Texas, to Native American reservations in the Southwest. Many customers end up losing their homes, thousands of dollars in down payments, or even land they’d owned outright.

But Hillary Clinton got paid, so it's fine.

Last year, according to federal data, Clayton made 72 percent of the loans to black people who financed mobile homes. The company’s in-house lender, Vanderbilt Mortgage, charges minority borrowers substantially higher rates, on average, than their white counterparts. In fact, federal data shows that Vanderbilt typically charges black people who make over $75,000 a year slightly more than white people who make only $35,000.

Maybe next time Obama invites Buffett to a State of the Union address, he can give him and his secretary another shout-out. Or maybe Hillary can mention it while she's fundraising with Warren.

...

And for $57,000, you can join Buffett and Hillary in kicking an actual family out of their home. For social justice.


Hillary Donor Ripping Off Minorities w/Subprime Mortgages

 

[g5000]

Bet you haven't heard much about this tie-in in the MSM, and you won't. Raises more questions about the wisdom of their guy Obama.

Political Mavens » How ‘Community Organizers’ (like Obama) Created the Subprime Crisis

Actually, we have heard of the retards who think the worldwide economic crash had something to do with negroes in Chicago. We sure have.

And it's been debunked a few million times, but there is always some moron who comes along every few months, even this many years later, to regurgitate that manufactured bullshit again.

It's like Whack-A-Mole.

 

[g5000]

The CRA meme has been thoroughly debunked. It was a bullshit meme started about two weeks after Lehman Brothers collapsed by idiots at Fox News who had no clue what was going on, and who still have no clue.

Lehman was not subject to the CRA. Neither was Bear Stearns, nor Goldman Sachs, nor JP Morgan, nor Morgan Stanley, nor AIG, nor the Royal Bank of Scotland, nor the Allied Irish Bank, nor the entire country of Iceland or the United Kingdom or Germany or Italy or Spain or Ireland.

This was GLOBAL derivatives bubble, you stupid, stupid, stupid fucks.

Did you somehow think the negroes of Iceland caused their banks and their economy to crash?

When all those foreclosure signs went up in your white middle class suburban town, did you look at your foreclosed neighbor and say to yourself, "Gee, I had no idea Biff was a negro"?

Idiots.

 

[g5000]

Biff buys a McMansion with a Pick-A-Payment mortgage, then he takes out a HELOC on it and buys an RV, and a boat, and takes his kids to Disneyland, twice.

Five years later, his loan resets and now his principal has swelled by $200,000 and his monthly payment explodes to three times its previous size.

Hey! I know! Let's blame the negroes!

 

[American_Jihad]

Bet you haven't heard much about this tie-in in the MSM, and you won't. Raises more questions about the wisdom of their guy Obama.

Political Mavens » How ‘Community Organizers’ (like Obama) Created the Subprime Crisis

Actually, we have heard of the retards who think the worldwide economic crash had something to do with negroes in Chicago. We sure have.

And it's been debunked a few million times, but there is always some moron who comes along every few months, even this many years later, to regurgitate that manufactured bullshit again.

It's like Whack-A-Mole.