Communists, Socialists, Fascists all agree.

Do we want freedom?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 100.0%
  • No

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    8

WatertheTree

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Its been a good year.

About 40,000 state laws taking effect at the start of the new year will change rules about getting abortions in New Hampshire, learning about gays and lesbians in California, getting jobs in Alabama and even driving golf carts in Georgia.

Several federal rules change with the new year, too, including a Social Security increase amounting to $450 a year for the average recipients and stiff fines up to $2,700 per offense for truckers and bus drivers caught using hand-held cellphones while driving.

40,000 new laws to go into effect in 2012 - US news - Life - msnbc.com

The question is, do we want to be free or not?
 
Its been a good year.

About 40,000 state laws taking effect at the start of the new year will change rules about getting abortions in New Hampshire, learning about gays and lesbians in California, getting jobs in Alabama and even driving golf carts in Georgia.

Several federal rules change with the new year, too, including a Social Security increase amounting to $450 a year for the average recipients and stiff fines up to $2,700 per offense for truckers and bus drivers caught using hand-held cellphones while driving.

40,000 new laws to go into effect in 2012 - US news - Life - msnbc.com

The question is, do we want to be free or not?

Give me welfare or give me death.


Where a welfare dollar is spent you get an extra 40 cents out of thin air.



Democrats are on to something I tell ya.
 
40,000 freedoms stripped from people in one year alone. Who can still consider themselves a free person in this country?
 
We elect these assholes to make laws not to sabotage the government, well at least sane Americans do, besides, some of the most constitutionally challenged laws this country has ever seen has come out the republican class of 2010.
 
We elect these assholes to make laws not to sabotage the government, well at least sane Americans do, besides, some of the most constitutionally challenged laws this country has ever seen has come out the republican class of 2010.

Examples?

You can handle that cant you?
 
The founders were wig wearing, slave owning, syphilitic elitists who had never even heard of an industrial revolution. They were men, not gods, not prophets, but men. The country they founded was not a free country, it only became that after 200 plus years of fighting among ourselves. They were smart, visionaries even, but they did not perfect our country on day one. Trying to turn the clock back to the 18th century is just silly and dangerous, they have no answers for us, we must do the hard work and answer our own questions.
 
Its been a good year.

About 40,000 state laws taking effect at the start of the new year will change rules about getting abortions in New Hampshire, learning about gays and lesbians in California, getting jobs in Alabama and even driving golf carts in Georgia.

Several federal rules change with the new year, too, including a Social Security increase amounting to $450 a year for the average recipients and stiff fines up to $2,700 per offense for truckers and bus drivers caught using hand-held cellphones while driving.

40,000 new laws to go into effect in 2012 - US news - Life - msnbc.com

The question is, do we want to be free or not?

Give me welfare or give me death.


Where a welfare dollar is spent you get an extra 40 cents out of thin air.



Democrats are on to something I tell ya.
They are on something allright, drugs. Ort at least like the clintons in their hippie days, were on something.
 
We elect these assholes to make laws not to sabotage the government, well at least sane Americans do, besides, some of the most constitutionally challenged laws this country has ever seen has come out the republican class of 2010.
BULL!!! The dimwits are the socialist pigs.
 
Government needs to be sabotaged right back into line where the Founders meant it to be.

Which of the Founders? They didn't all agree on that, you know.
The majority did. The idiots got voted down. This country was founded to be free, period. Socialists don't like that fact but they go live in a socialist country and stop trying to screw this country up. Idiots.
 
Government needs to be sabotaged right back into line where the Founders meant it to be.

Which of the Founders? They didn't all agree on that, you know.
The majority did. The idiots got voted down. This country was founded to be free, period. Socialists don't like that fact but they go live in a socialist country and stop trying to screw this country up. Idiots.

This country was founded to a be run by an aristocracy of male, slaveholding landowners.
 
Sure they did...otherwise the Constitution wouldn't have been ratified...

On the contrary. The Constitution that was ratified was very much a compromise, and created a far stronger government than you like. It includes provisions empowering Congress to lay taxes without limit as to the amount, to spend money on anything it wants and can justify as being for the common defense and/or the general welfare, and to regulate any commerce that crosses state lines in any way it wants consistent with the affirmative restrictions on government infringement of rights. The federal government could lay a 100% income tax on everyone and pay everyone a stipend out of that revenue if it wanted. I seriously doubt any such measure could ever pass Congress (and of course it would be a dumb idea), but there is nothing in the Constitution to forbid it. That's how little the Constitution spells out "small government." It does no such thing.

There's a tendency among some people to confuse the word "Constitutional" with the words "what I believe in." The one is not necessarily the other. In many ways, for you, the two most definitely are NOT the same.


See my signature. You just confessed to having no argument.
 
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Which of the Founders? They didn't all agree on that, you know.
The majority did. The idiots got voted down. This country was founded to be free, period. Socialists don't like that fact but they go live in a socialist country and stop trying to screw this country up. Idiots.

This country was founded to a be run by an aristocracy of male, slaveholding landowners.
Socialists claim that because they hate the fact that we are a free society, which they hate. You are wrong.
 
Which of the Founders? They didn't all agree on that, you know.
The majority did. The idiots got voted down. This country was founded to be free, period. Socialists don't like that fact but they go live in a socialist country and stop trying to screw this country up. Idiots.

This country was founded to a be run by an aristocracy of male, slaveholding landowners.

YOU totally ignore the Three Fifths Compromise...for without it? We wouldn't have gotten the Southern States onboard with the Union.

The Founders by-and -large wanted to abolish slavery but knew the Southern States would protest. They compromised to save that battle for another day...

Your argument is hereby nullified and void.
 

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