Communist, Marxist, Socialist, Fascist

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    Hello

    I am proposing a contest. No there won't be a million dollar prize. Just an opportunity to make a convert(s).

    Here is the deal. Using reliable, objective and verifiable information or documentation prove to me that the President of the US is a Communist, Socialist, Marxist or Fascist.

    Rules;

    1. You may not use any information gotten from Mr. Limbaugh, the Koch brothers, Donald Trump or the other billionaires who are saying things like this.

    2. You may not use information from the RNC, any affliate or paid entity of the RNC.

    3. You may use (using the freedom of information act) verifiable information obtained by the US Secret Service or FBI between 2007 and 2008 (by the way Bush was Prez then.)

    4. You may use verifiable academic or research information from reputable neutral sources.

    Pretty Simple

    Just as a reminder:

    Soviet Russia and its satellites were never Communist using the definition of Communism. They were closer to a Fascist dictatorship like the NAZI's were.

    Communism: Comes from the word COMMUNE The ideology whereby all people within the state are equal, monetarily, socially and politically. Wealth and responsibility are equally shared among the people. There is no central government

    (I think this is right)
    Marxist - the ideology whereby all people within the state are politically and socially equal. Responsibility and political power are in the hands of the people. There is a government but it is completely dependent on the will of the people.

    Socialism - somewhere in between Communism and Marxist.

    The problem with saying Obama is a Fascist is that this is a extreme right wing philosophy similar to the type of garbage you here from Limbaugh and company.

    Fascist - The political ideology wherein the state controls every aspect of life and dissension is crushed and the central government has all the power.

    If we lived in a Fascist State and Obama was a Fascist, the RNC, DNC, ACLU, CLU, right to live, moral majority, Fox news, CNBC, and every non party entity or person would not be around. Which means you and I would not be here.

    BE VERY CAREFUL, MY FAMILY CAME FROM GERMANY AND I KNOW WHAT A FASCIST is and what a FASCIST STATE IS.

    Ok - These are the rules and the mostly accurate definitions of the terms I have heard the most. Have at it.

    thanks

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    In other words, communism is a triangle with four corners and you want us to prove that Obama can draw one.

    All you're proving is that your an idiot.
     
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    OBamas own book said he chose his friends wisely..

    exact quote in his book dreams of my father "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The
    Marxist professorsand structural feminists."

    He surrounds himself with communist.. VAN Jones

    He surrounds him self with a self confessed terrorist .. Bill Ayers..

    You just have to see who a person surrounds themselves with to know what kind of character they have.
     
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    Conservatives need read no further, as they would fail to meet the above terms not only with regard to this challenge, but any such challenge requiring these criteria.
     
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    Hello

    I am sorry but that is not how this contest works. Besides when I was in college I "surrounded" myself with Jewish friends. Does that make me a Jew?

    Also associate yourself with one person does not equal "Surrounding"

    However, You do get points for your quote about the book.

    Thanks

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    Instead of ducking the question with a comment that has nothing to do with nothing and then insulting someone you don't know why don't you answer the question and then PROVE I am an idiot. As much as you may think you have accomplished something here all you've done is show you cannot support the assertions of the right wing and then lower yourself to nonsensical comments and insults.

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