Communist commune in US prospers while economy flounders

[JBeukema]

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[martybegan]

Communist commune in US prospers while economy flounders - RT Top Stories

What works in a small scale might not work in a large one.

Also this form of communism is voluntary. The larger forms? Not so much.

 

[JBeukema]

What works in a small scale might not work in a large one.

Capitalism doesn't work large-scale, either.

Just look at at Americans losing their jobs, the sweatshops where the proletariat labour and die, rampant pollution, and the coming energy crisis.

The massive-scale cities and civilizations which have arisen are not sustainable under any system.

 

[Leweman]

Well first of all they have to sell their hammocks in the free market to pay bills and they sure as hell don't look to be flourishing to me. Looks pretty miserable.

 

[loosecannon]

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What works in a small scale might not work in a large one.

Also this form of communism is voluntary. The larger forms? Not so much.

By definition communism is voluntary. If it isn't voluntary it isn't communism.

Communist china is also thriving thru this recession, melting the skin off the face of those folks who say this example is a fluke!

 

[Mr. H.]

There's a coming energy crisis?

 

[JBeukema]

Who says socio-communism means no market?

 

[JBeukema]

There's a coming energy crisis?

Have you been taking a nap for the past 50 years?

 

[2Parties]

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Why are these capitalists selling these hammocks?

 

[2Parties]

Who says socio-communism means no market?

Of course it has a market. Reality dictates this, not definitions in a book.

There have been markets in Cuba and North Korea for decades.

 

[JBeukema]

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Why are these capitalists selling these hammocks?

You don't actually know what capitalism is, do you?

This is actually more like workplace/market democracy.

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[2Parties]

These communists sound more like capitalists. You don't put in your 42 hours a week you are put out in the cold and bitter capitalist world. You can't work? Too bad. Our product doesn't sell? Bills for car repair and electricity don't get paid.

 

[2Parties]

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Why are these capitalists selling these hammocks?

You don't actually know what capitalism is, do you?

This is actually more like workplace/market democracy.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/After-Capitalism-Managerialism-Workplace-Democracy/dp/0679418598]Amazon.com: After Capitalism: From Managerialism to Workplace Democracy (9780679418597): Seymour Melman: Books: Reviews, Prices & more[/ame]

I'm gonna read that book before responding to your thread.

I know what capitalism is and what it isn't.

What it is: Nothing to do with government, everything to do with voluntary trade and peace.

What it isn't: Anything involving government.

 

[Mr. H.]

There's a coming energy crisis?

Have you been taking a nap for the past 50 years?

No. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Along with studying national/international energy issues for the past 33 years.

 

[rdean]

If anyone can make communism prosper, it's Americans.

Look how well the Republicans are doing with China?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Communist commune in US prospers while economy flounders - RT Top Stories

Communism only works, if it does, on a small scale. That said, this is not a communist community.

Even though the community is primarily self-sufficient, they do have a hammock business. The money they make from the hammocks goes into a communal checkbook and used to pay for things like car repairs, clothes and electric bills. It is their way of conforming capitalism to their communist lifestyle.

It is close, but it falls short. I would like to see a non biased source on exactly how they do, and do not, conform to communism. Does everry one who joins buy into the community, or is anyone allowed in as long as they can work.

The community has an organized labor system where residents maintain a 42-hour work quota each week. That quota can be met by putting in hours caring for children, making furniture, milking cows and more.
Keenan Dakota believes “There are hardly any other communist societies in the world which haven’t collapsed. The few communist places that are left are Twin Oaks and Cuba.”
However, if a person does not pull their weight in this communist society, they can be exiled back to capitalist America to fend for themselves.

If they were truly communist they would not exile a person who could not contribute. "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" does not kick anyone, nor does it impose a flat weekly work requirement.

Also, Cuba is not a communist system.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

What works in a small scale might not work in a large one.

Capitalism doesn't work large-scale, either.

Just look at at Americans losing their jobs, the sweatshops where the proletariat labour and die, rampant pollution, and the coming energy crisis.

The massive-scale cities and civilizations which have arisen are not sustainable under any system.

Why are you comparing America to a capitalist economic system?

 

[Charles_Main]

Communist commune in US prospers while economy flounders - RT Top Stories

What works in a small scale might not work in a large one.

Also this form of communism is voluntary. The larger forms? Not so much.

By definition communism is voluntary. If it isn't voluntary it isn't communism.

Communist china is also thriving thru this recession, melting the skin off the face of those folks who say this example is a fluke!

LOL. Which is why true Communism has never actually existed. Stalin said it himself. Communism can not coexist with freedom. Because you will never get everyone to "Volunteer" under such a system.

By your own Definition. China is not Communism. Even before they moved toward capitalism recently they were never true communism.

 

[R.C. Christian]

Yes, a place where people share clothes and walk around naked is the kind of community I'd like to live in, not.

 

[loosecannon]

What works in a small scale might not work in a large one.

Also this form of communism is voluntary. The larger forms? Not so much.

By definition communism is voluntary. If it isn't voluntary it isn't communism.

Communist china is also thriving thru this recession, melting the skin off the face of those folks who say this example is a fluke!

LOL. Which is why true Communism has never actually existed. Stalin said it himself. Communism can not coexist with freedom. Because you will never get everyone to "Volunteer" under such a system.

By your own Definition. China is not Communism. Even before they moved toward capitalism recently they were never true communism.

while that is absolutely true, I still doubt that you grasp it's significance. By the same measure democracy, republic and capitalism have never existed. Neither has liberalism, or conservatism.

Fascism on the other hand has been wildly popular side by side with social democracy.