Communism Outside The Gulag

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    Thank God the Papal state has total freedom and liberty, since it's so conservative....Hahahahahahahahahahahah
     
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    Capitalism which included slavery...What a concept...of Christians
     
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    I disagree.

    1. Hitler had no interest or connection to Karl Marx at all, and his may opponents were the Spartacus League that were followers of Marx. All of Hitler's propaganda was totally anti-Marxist, and he gained all his support from the aristocracy, the military, and industrialists, by always being anti-Marxist. And Stalin was actually anti-Marxist as well. While Stalin claimed to be a Marixst, he murdered all the real Marxists, and prevented communal benefits, so was not really Marxist at all. How many people are murdered is not a sign of Marxism and Marxism has nothing to do with murdering people. Claims that he supported mass murder or genocide are just ridiculous. He was anti war and anti capital punishment.
    Communalism of an elite at the cost of the general public, is not really communalism at all.
     
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    I disagree.
    First of all, it was not kibbuztim that failed in Israel, but ones that were based on agricultural collectives.
    Agriculture is too hard of work and does not pay well enough. So many left for urban opportunities that paid better.
    It has nothing to do with individualism, because individuals gain their main satisfaction from others.
    So communalism is the inherent goal of individuals.

    Of course Thoreau is correct that individual rights are the only source of all authority, but individuals are inherently social.
     
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    "I disagree."


    But I just proved that what I wrote is correct, and that you are as dumb as asphalt.

    After your truly abysmal performance on the test? Well….there can be only one reason: you’ve come to recognize how ignorant you are, and are asking for my help. And, as a conservative is never so tall as when she stoops to educate a Liberal….I’ll do just that.


    Sadly, education requires actual work, study, anathema to your sort.

    But....here is your opportunity to dig your way out of a lifetime of ignorance.


    As one eventually becomes weary of having the dull, the uneducated, the ignorant, offer what they consider rebuff to intelligent and informed posts, and in the interests of better debate milieu.....I strongly suggest that no Leftists.....e.g., Democrat, Liberal, Socialist, Communist, Nazi, Progressive, or Fascist.....
    ....nor any combination or permutation of same, embarrass themselves by offering any post until such time that they complete a study of these three works:


    1. "Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline,"
    by Robert H. Bork


    2. "Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change,"
    by Jonah Goldberg

    3. "American Betrayal: The Secret Assault on Our Nation's Character,"
    by Diana West



    They provide the context for the world you live in.

    And, please do study the vast and scholarly documentation provided in each tome.





    Without having digested the three above, and carefully decided whether they are correct or not, your posts reek of stupidity and a lack of understanding.

    I mean that in only the kindest way.


    I fully understand the difficulties that this course (pun intended) of action entails....
    ...as elucidated by the great mind herself...

    "Liberals don’t read books- they don’t read anything. That’s why they’re liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."
    Coulter




    But!!!

    Having completed the above assignment, you will find that your experience.....and mine....here on the board will be greatly enhanced.

    Begin immediately!!!

    Forthwith!!!!!!
     
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    Of course I will try to read these and appreciate the suggestions.
    But I have to warn you that I have read Karl Marx, and know that he was anti-war and anti-capital punishment.
    His background was that of the military for the aristocracy, and he was disgusted by the brutality of imperialism and colonialism. His political views were more similar to an anarchist, with a minimalist government, that he felt would not have to be coercive once in line with inherent human nature. He was not a centralist or totalitarian in any way.

    Having grown up in Wisconsin, the homeland of the Progressive Party, I can also tell you that progressives are not at all anti private property or industry, and instead felt one of the important roles of government was to help make industries more productive and efficient, in non-competitive ways.
     
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    "Of course I will try to read these and appreciate the suggestions. "


    Excellent!
     
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    "Progressive Party, I can also tell you that progressives....blah blah blah...."


    Let us not gloss over the facts.
    Progressives are as unattached to the sacredness of human life as Bolsheviks, Liberals, etc.




    In fact, Progressives are the basis for many Nazi programs.

    The American and German eugenics movements were one in 'the identification of human beings as valuable, worthless, or of inferior value in supposedly hereditary terms.' As one authority has noted, this 'was the common denominator of all forms of Nazi racism.'

    Eugenics was synonymous with 'race hygiene,' and its most fundamental program was to purify the 'race' of 'low grade' and 'degenerate' groups. Thus, American and European eugenicists created a generic racism and sexism - the genetically inferior.

    Not surprisingly, the victims always turned out to be the traditional victims of racism - Jews, Blacks, women, and the poor."
    Giesela Bock, 'Racism and Sexism in Nazi Germany,'Signs: Journal of Women in Culture and Society,Vol. 8, no. 3, Spring 1983. Reprinted in Renate Bridenthal et. al.,When Biology Became Destiny:Women in Weimar and Nazi Germany(New York, 1984), p. 276.


    Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
    ...:"the Master Race."

    Hitler studied American eugenics laws.
    ...
    Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
    The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics



    Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
    (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)

    German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.



    One more proof of my earlier post, point out that none of the totalitarian....collectivist...ideologies value the individual.
     
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    The odd thing is that there are no laws against possession of things. That is PC biggest problem, Someday she may even be correct.
     
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    "... there are no laws against possession of things."

    Ah, but there are, ExLaxMan


    They're called regulations.

    Huge numbers of them are totally bogus, and are meant to deprive owners of private property the rights of ownership.
    That's why this President can remove them without any damage to society.


    Let’s understand the character of ‘private property.’

    In an influential essay published in 1961, Professor Tony Honore of Oxford wrote this description of private property:

    ‘The most important are the rights to use the thing and to exclude others from doing so, to alter its physical configuration, to enjoy its fruits, including its income, and, not the least, to transfer the title of ownership to another.

    And, ownership means much the same thing in different legal systems.’
    Tom Bethell, “The Noblest Triumph,” p. 19





    Does Liberal government deprive the individual of actual ownership, i.e., theft?

    You betcha’!!



    Now....let's see how Liberals, disguised as 'environmentalists,' deprive owners of their private property rights:
    1. The Spotted Owl campaign, as is so very many other environmental campaigns, a deceit. It is a way of advancing the real agenda, confiscating property, making land off-limit, and eliminating any human presence. No matter the cost. No matter the result.
    2. “Look, I don’t doubt that the regulatory process that we put in place to produce the environmental goods that we want have taken a toll on the economy generally and the rural economy in particular. Telling the story that rural communities are being harmed may tug at the heartstrings of rural people, but no one else will care.
    3. You see, what the sage grouse is about is, they want to stop drilling in beautiful Wyoming. That’s the hidden agenda….Take the spotted owl case….One of the people instrumental in shutting down the forests told me that ‘if the spotted owl hadn’t existed, we would have had to invent it.’ The goal was to stop logging….It is totally questionable whether owls were endangered by logging. Was it good for the overall health of the forest? Probably not. Was it good for the spotted owl? It probably didn’t make a difference. Did it hurt the overall economies of the West? Yes.” Nickson, “Eco-Fascists,” p.129.



    See how you have been played for a fool, ExLaxMan????


    Oh...wait!
    You are a fool!
     
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