Common Sense from a French Poodle?

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    Last paragraph of article: he got that entirely right except that it would not only be a destablizing element for the Middle East but for the entire globe. Nuclear weapons in the hands of those religious radicals in Iran would be about the same as the terrorists getting their hands on Pakistan's nuclear arsenal.
     
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    Yah, but remember that to the Euros, Isreal is the reason violence and war continues to exist as a way of life in Muslim society. He's referring the the destabilization of the balance of power between the Jews, who have nukes, and their enemies, who still don't. I think he still ignores the fact that the West was the target of 9-11, not the Jews. So he's still behind the curve.

    But better, Europe! Learn faster, please.
     
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    I don't know why you're saying that to us "Europeans" Israel is the reason violence and war continues to exist as a way of life in Muslim society...I don't see it that way. Israel is half the reason for the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, but to say we blame them for the violence and war in the middle east is far stretched...

    Also, why should Israel be alowed to have the nuclear bomb? I've always been wondering this...isn't this seen as a threat from the rest of the arab countries in the region??? I mean how can we justify Isreal having one from other countries in the region, apart from the so called democratic state is it supposed to be?
    Just woundering...what are your views on this?
     
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    Maybe because the Isrealis don't have a very large track record of supporting terrorism, opressing their own citizens, bragging about how many infidels they can slay, or dancing in the streets on 9/11. That is something that cannot be said about most countries down there.
     
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    I totally agree but don't you think it's seen as a threat in the middle east, thus making it a problem...Why are countries in the middle east trying to get nuclear weapons? I bet part of it has to do with Israel having it...
     
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    According to the polls then, you are in the minority.

    EU Poll names ISRAEL top Threat to Peace

    http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000077.html

    Nobody 'allowed' them to have it. And you're not going to be able to take it away from them either. I assume your motive is to ensure peace in the region, and knowing that the chances of an invasion of Isreal by conventional forces is now out of the minds of its hostile neighbors, the nuclear weapons in Isreal's inventory achieve that goal.

    Arab countries consider them a threat whether or not they have nuclear weapons. The reality is, Isreal does not plan on using its nuclear weapons in a war of aggression, and has already demonstrated this as fact.

    Arab leaders have publically stated they would use any nuclear capability to destory Isreal. I tend to believe them, especially since 9-11.

    'So called' Democratic state? In my book, Democracies are allowed to have nuclear weapons, and tyrannical states aren't. That should be simple enough to justify.
     

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