Colorado shooter Holmes poisoned by anti-psychotic drugs?

[Peter Dow]

OK, here's my new conspiracy theory.

Bright student, James Holmes starts his Ph.D. studies in Neuro-Science at the University of Colorado's*Aurora*campus but Holmes's arrogant, know-it-all attitude annoys someone he works with, perhaps one of the university staff who is a professor or a lecturer or a fellow student who has access to anti-psychotic drugs used to "treat" mental patients. This hypothetical person who has taken a severe dislike to Holmes I will refer to as "Holmes's secret enemy" or HSE.

In an evil, secret lone-wolf science experiment, HSE targets Holmes to poison him with anti-psychotic drugs to see what happens and for the wicked pleasure of doing evil to a perceived enemy.

So one day, HSE slips some anti-psychotic pills into Holmes's coffee. "Here you James, it's with sugar, I hope that's OK?"
Holmes barely looking up from his text books says, "Yeh, thanks" and drinks the poisoned coffee.

The effect of the anti-psychotic drugs is to make Holmes apathetic, the next week or so he sleeps in, he doesn't turn up for work at the university, and administrators expel him from university. Holmes drops out.

Then slowly over a number of weeks, the anti-psychotics wear off and for a brief time Holmes returns to his normal self but then quickly the effect of the withdrawal symptoms from the anti-psychotic drugs kicks in, which is the opposite effect to that when initially taking anti-psychotics - the effect of withdrawal from these anti-psychotic drugs is to induce a psychotic breakdown which Holmes has.

As a result of the withdrawal from the poisoning, the psychotic Holmes plans his lone-wolf shooting massacre.

Deep in his subconscious, as a final plea for help, Holmes writes to his former University professor, a psychiatrist who Holmes still trusts, perhaps naively for all we know, because the psychiatrist professor Holmes writes to could be none other than "HSE" the person who poisoned Holmes and caused his psychosis? Perhaps not. This is only a theory.

Holmes writes to the psychiatrist professor but gets no reply so he reverts to his plan and goes through with the Aurora Theater attack.

This conspiracy theory is hard to prove or disprove but it looks like my conspiracy theory fits the facts.

Whether or not this theory is true, it certainly is true that these anti-psychotic drugs are very dangerous, as dangerous as firearms in their own way.

 

[waltky]

Granny says, "Dat's right, don't blame `em dey weren't involved - he thought it up on his own an' didn't tell `em what he was gonna do...

Aurora suspect James Holmes's family's painful emotional hurdles
Mon, Jul 23, 2012 - The family of Aurora, Colo., shooting suspect James Holmes faces a difficult emotional road in the days, weeks and months ahead as they struggle to cope with the enormous reality of his alleged actions, experts told ABC News.

In a statement, the family said their "hearts go out to those who [were] involved in this tragedy and to the families and friends of those involved." His mother also told ABC News earlier her son was likely the accused gunman. By acknowledging what happened, they are taking important steps in the healing process. Mental health professionals who do not know the Holmes family, and are speaking about the aftermath of violence in general, said that the healing process will likely include disbelief, anger, guilt and grief. How they cope depends on factors such as their individual characteristics. "Invariably, they need to be as candid as they can and give one or two interviews so everybody knows what they know," said Charles Figley, director of Tulane University's Traumatology Institute. "They will undoubtedly be hounded."

After that time, however, the family will need some privacy to deal with the wide range of emotions they are likely to experience. "They are in the disbelief stage right now, but they may go through an anger stage, then maybe a guilt stage," said Catherine Mogil, an assistant clinical professor at the UCLA Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior. "They may also feel shame that they didn't do more, and may ask whether they missed warning signs or whether they should have done more." Grief is also a common reaction in traumatic situations, she explained. "They may be grieving for someone they thought was their brother or son, who is no longer the person they knew," she said.

And that loss can be compounded by other losses. "There can be societal stigma toward family members of individuals who have committed these kinds of crimes," said Dr. Amir Afkhami, an assistant professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at George Washington University Medical Center. "There's some degree of thought that they somehow colluded with the killer at some level, or are at least collaterally guilty and created some sort of environment that bred this person." They may also suffer financially if they have business or economic ties to the community. "Because of the stigma, they may be threatened with the loss of jobs," he added.

The heavy emotional toll may lead to other serious consequences as well. "In the long term, this can lead in two directions," Afkhami said. "There is a high risk of developing psychiatric illnesses because of the social pressure -- major depression, generalized anxiety disorder and post-traumatic stress have been reported in family members of killers. In other cases, family members who are resilient may use their experience as a means of engaging in activism." Despite the pain of their ordeal, the family may be able to take solace in the fact there is help for them, and over time, they can heal. "It's very traumatic, but they will be able to cope," said Figley. "Because there is so much attention on them, inevitably their close supporters will stand behind them, encourage them and reassure them." It may also be helpful to seek out support groups or counseling, and it's especially crucial to watch for signs of mental illness. "They need to take it one day at a time and keep a log of their feelings and experiences. It may seem as if they are in a dream," Finley said. "But every day, it will get easier."

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Experts: Don't blame killers' families
25 July `12 - Americans are mourning along with victims' families in the wake of the Aurora movie theater shootings. But what should our feelings be toward the family of James Holmes, the shooting suspect?

Experts who study shooting rampages and killing sprees say we should mourn for them too. "We have lots of sympathy for the families of the victims, as we should," said Northeastern University criminologist James Alan Fox, "but we generally don't have much sympathy at all for the family of the perpetrators — whether their loved one is dead or alive." Just a few hours after last Friday's midnight shootings, TV satellite trucks began arriving at the red-roofed, mission-style San Diego home where Holmes grew up — and where his mother, Arlene; father, Robert; and sister, Chris, still live.

Reporters were looking for clues to how Holmes' family life led the 24-year-old graduate student to allegedly don body armor and open fire on a crowd, killing a dozen people and wounding 58. Holmes' family quickly issued a statement saying, in part: "Our hearts go out to those who were involved in this tragedy and to the families and friends of those involved." It added, "We are still trying to process this information and we appreciate that people will respect our privacy."

Fox, who studies mass murderers and serial killers, says it's misguided to blame perpetrators' families for their crimes. "We're a nation of finger-pointers," he said. "We blame them for having raised a monster." But often, he and others said, families are just as surprised as the rest of us — and just as traumatized. When young people turn violent, we naturally turn to parenting to explain what went wrong, even though research suggests that hidden, often undiagnosed mental health problems — as well as perpetrators' relationships with peers, teachers and others — can play a much bigger role. "Obviously parenting has an effect," Fox said. "But to create this kind of outcome, the parent would have to be … a tremendously bad parent. And you generally don't find that."

Fox, whose research has included interviews with family members of spree killers, said young people turn violent despite the best efforts of the parents. "I'm not going to say that some of the parents I've known have been the greatest and belong to the 'Hallmark Hall of Fame of Good Mothers and Dads,' but they also shouldn't be perceived as a Dr. Frankenstein, as someone who created a monster." Shooters' families rarely if ever speak out beyond brief statements. In 2007, after the Virginia Tech shootings that left 33 dead, including the gunman, Seung Hui Cho, Cho's sister, Sun-Kyung Cho, released a statement saying, in part, "We are humbled by this darkness. We feel hopeless, helpless and lost." Cho's family later granted an interview to a government panel probing the shootings, telling a psychiatrist that they learned of his violent writings and suicidal thoughts only after his death, according to an account in The Washington Post. "But we just did not know … about anything being wrong," they said.

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[RetiredGySgt]

Any current drug that is addictive and causes withdrawal ( and I am not even sure if there are any anymore)) require time to work, time to become addictive and time to build up in ones system to create a withdrawal symptom.

Some of the older meds might qualify but they are seldom used and are tightly controlled, not to mention the ones you would need have obvious effects that would not go unnoticed.

Idiot.

 

[geauxtohell]

Since we can't reconcile the simple fact that sometimes people do horrible and evil things to innocent people without any logical motive or reason, we are left to create wild conspiracy theories.....

 

[The Infidel]

Since we can't reconcile the simple fact that sometimes people do horrible and evil things to innocent people without any logical motive or reason, we are left to create wild conspiracy theories.....

I agree.... the guy is an evil SOB, and the sooner we reconcile ourselves with that, the sooner we can begin to move forward.

The familes will never get over it... I feel so bad for them.

 

[Godboy]

OK, here's my new conspiracy theory.

Stop right there! Do you know how fucking ridiculous that statement is? Something happens in the news, so you have to create a conspiracy for it? Come on man, do you not see how absurd that is?

God damn troofers! I hate you all!

 

[chikenwing]

If only it was that simple,but we rationalize bad shit everyday.

 

[Luissa]

Any current drug that is addictive and causes withdrawal ( and I am not even sure if there are any anymore)) require time to work, time to become addictive and time to build up in ones system to create a withdrawal symptom.

Some of the older meds might qualify but they are seldom used and are tightly controlled, not to mention the ones you would need have obvious effects that would not go unnoticed.

Idiot.

I know Lorazepam and Xanax are addictive, along with a few others.
But like you said it takes awhile to become addicted, and Holmes wouldn't have those kinds of withdrawals after a week of use.

 

[Peter Dow]

Any current drug that is addictive and causes withdrawal ( and I am not even sure if there are any anymore))

Fact - the withdrawal symptom from an anti-psychotic drug is psychosis.

Wikipedia is sure even if you are not.

Wikipedia: Antipsychotic. Withdrawal
Withdrawal symptoms from antipsychotics may emerge during dosage reduction and discontinuation. ... The psychological withdrawal symptoms can include psychosis,

So if you are not psychotic, never been psychotic, of sound mind, but a psychiatrist poisons you with these anti-psychotic drugs, willingly or unwillingly, honestly or tricks you, then the withdrawal symptoms of these antipsychotics are indeed psychosis. When you come off these drugs they cause the very thing they are supposed to be treating! So these drugs are very dangerous indeed.

require time to work, time to become addictive and time to build up in ones system to create a withdrawal symptom.

This is a quote from a anti-psychotic drug pdf datasheet - Modecate Concentrate - Fluphenazine decanoate

Indications

Fluphenazine decanoate is indicated in the long-term management of psychotic disorders
including schizophrenia, mania and organic brain syndrome. It is of particular value in the
treatment of chronic schizophrenia and for patients who are unreliable at taking oral
medication. The drug often alleviates such target symptoms as hallucinations, delusions,
confusion and withdrawal. It is not only useful in the hospital milieu but is unparalleled,
because of its long duration of action in the long-term maintenance therapy of chronically
psychotic patients who are amenable to out-patient therapy.


Pharmacokinetics

The onset of action generally appears between 24 to 72 hours after injection, and the effects of the drug on psychotic symptoms become significant within 48 to 96 hours. The therapeutic activity then continues for 1 to 4 weeks or longer with average duration of effect of between 3 to 4 weeks. The serum half-life is approximately 7-10 days.

3-4 weeks is plenty of time for the body to create a dependency on a drug.

That particular drug is administered via injection so that doesn't fit with the conspiracy theory of Holmes being surreptitiously poisoned by adding it to his coffee.

Perhaps it was another drug that can be orally administered? Perhaps Holmes volunteered to be a guinea pig and consented to an injection?

Some of the older meds might qualify but they are seldom used and are tightly controlled, not to mention the ones you would need have obvious effects that would not go unnoticed.

The conspiracy theory says that the effects of the drug did not go unnoticed. I would say that people noticed the Aurora Theater shooting!

Also the first effect of the anti-psychotic would be to make Holmes apathetic. So that effect was noticed when he lost interest in his studies. That was when the drug was active.

Then many weeks later when the drug wore off, the withdrawal symptoms - psychosis - kicked in and that's when he planned and executed the Aurora Theater shooting massacre.

Idiot.

Look buddy this is just a conspiracy theory and I welcome scepticism. I'm a sceptic too even though I dreamt the conspiracy theory up! So there is no need to be unpleasant and insulting just because you don't think it credible.

 

[Katzndogz]

OK, here's my new conspiracy theory.

Bright student, James Holmes starts his Ph.D. studies in Neuro-Science at the University of Colorado's*Aurora*campus but Holmes's arrogant, know-it-all attitude annoys someone he works with, perhaps one of the university staff who is a professor or a lecturer or a fellow student who has access to anti-psychotic drugs used to "treat" mental patients. This hypothetical person who has taken a severe dislike to Holmes I will refer to as "Holmes's secret enemy" or HSE.

In an evil, secret lone-wolf science experiment, HSE targets Holmes to poison him with anti-psychotic drugs to see what happens and for the wicked pleasure of doing evil to a perceived enemy.

So one day, HSE slips some anti-psychotic pills into Holmes's coffee. "Here you James, it's with sugar, I hope that's OK?"
Holmes barely looking up from his text books says, "Yeh, thanks" and drinks the poisoned coffee.

The effect of the anti-psychotic drugs is to make Holmes apathetic, the next week or so he sleeps in, he doesn't turn up for work at the university, and administrators expel him from university. Holmes drops out.

Then slowly over a number of weeks, the anti-psychotics wear off and for a brief time Holmes returns to his normal self but then quickly the effect of the withdrawal symptoms from the anti-psychotic drugs kicks in, which is the opposite effect to that when initially taking anti-psychotics - the effect of withdrawal from these anti-psychotic drugs is to induce a psychotic breakdown which Holmes has.

As a result of the withdrawal from the poisoning, the psychotic Holmes plans his lone-wolf shooting massacre.

Deep in his subconscious, as a final plea for help, Holmes writes to his former University professor, a psychiatrist who Holmes still trusts, perhaps naively for all we know, because the psychiatrist professor Holmes writes to could be none other than "HSE" the person who poisoned Holmes and caused his psychosis? Perhaps not. This is only a theory.

Holmes writes to the psychiatrist professor but gets no reply so he reverts to his plan and goes through with the Aurora Theater attack.

This conspiracy theory is hard to prove or disprove but it looks like my conspiracy theory fits the facts.

Whether or not this theory is true, it certainly is true that these anti-psychotic drugs are very dangerous, as dangerous as firearms in their own way.

You should write a book. In reality, Holmes has more in common with John Nash than Tom Clancy. Holmes was simply insane,. While I had thought initially that sending the notebook was some sort of last ditch appeal for help, a psychiatriast pointed out to me that sending the notebook would have been under the doctor patient privilege and the psychiatrist who received it wouldn't have been able to ring the bell at all. However, failure to receive the notebook was just the dereliction of duty of another lazy government employee.

It is also equally as likely that Holmes was slipped some kind of drug by a jilted girlfriend, or a romantic rival, or a gay classmate going to deliver a little payback because Holmes was heterosexual.

 

[Peter Dow]

Since we can't reconcile the simple fact that sometimes people do horrible and evil things to innocent people without any logical motive or reason, we are left to create wild conspiracy theories.....

Well some people are born bad, bad parents, bad upbringing, bad at school and when those bad people do bad things there's no surprise.

This guy didn't seem to be bad before this attack though. There seems to have been a sudden onset of badness which is surprising and shocking.

Wikipedia: James Eagan Holmes

Holmes was born on December 13, 1987,[2] the son of a registered nurse and a mathematician working as a senior scientist.[4][5][6] His father has degrees from Stanford, UCLA and Berkeley.[1] James Holmes was raised in Castroville, California, where he attended elementary school,[7] and San Diego.[5][8][9] He graduated from Westview High School in the Torrey Highlands community of San Diego in 2006.[6][10][11] Holmes played soccer and ran cross-country at Westview High.[1] He and his family were regular attendees of their local Presbyterian church.[12]

In the summer of 2006 he worked as an intern at the Salk Institute for Biological Studies where he was assigned to write computer code for an experiment. Holmes, who was described by his supervisor as stubborn, uncommunicative and socially inept, presented his project to the other interns at the end of the internship, but never actually completed it.[13][14]

Beginning in 2006, he attended the University of California, Riverside (UCR), and in 2010 received his undergraduate degree in neuroscience with the highest honors.[15][16][17][18] He was a member of several honor societies, including Phi Beta Kappa and Golden Key.[19] In the summer of 2008, Holmes worked as a counselor at a residential summer camp in Glendale, California, that catered to needy children aged 7–14. There he was responsible for 10 children and had no disciplinary problems.[20][21]

In June 2011 Holmes enrolled as a Ph.D. student in neuroscience at the University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus in Aurora.[22] He received a $21,600 grant from the National Institutes of Health according to agency records. The grant was from July 2011 to June 2012. Holmes also received a $5,000 stipend from the University of Colorado, Denver.[23][24]

In 2012, his academic performance declined,[25] and he scored poorly on the comprehensive exam in the spring. The university was not planning to expel him. However, Holmes was in the process of withdrawing from the university.[26] Three days after failing a key oral exam at the university in early June 2012, Holmes dropped out of his studies without further explanation.[27]

In Aurora, Holmes lived on Paris Street in a one-bedroom apartment, in a building with other students involved in health studies.[28] In his rental application, he described himself as "quiet and easygoing".[29] He left some digital footprints, like a university email address, an old Myspace photo[30], a dating profile on Match.com,[31] and a profile on Adult FriendFinder, as well as a resume at the employment website Monster.com.[32][33] It was reported that Holmes was a big fan of superheroes, including Batman, and that his apartment was decorated with Batman paraphernalia.[34]

 

[Katzndogz]

Since we can't reconcile the simple fact that sometimes people do horrible and evil things to innocent people without any logical motive or reason, we are left to create wild conspiracy theories.....

Well some people are born bad, bad parents, bad upbringing, bad at school and when those bad people do bad things there's no surprise.

This guy didn't seem to be bad before this attack though. There seems to have been a sudden onset of badness which is suprising and shocking.

Wikipedia: James Eagan Holmes

Holmes was born on December 13, 1987,[2] the son of a registered nurse and a mathematician working as a senior scientist.[4][5][6] His father has degrees from Stanford, UCLA and Berkeley.[1] James Holmes was raised in Castroville, California, where he attended elementary school,[7] and San Diego.[5][8][9] He graduated from Westview High School in the Torrey Highlands community of San Diego in 2006.[6][10][11] Holmes played soccer and ran cross-country at Westview High.[1] He and his family were regular attendees of their local Presbyterian church.[12]

In the summer of 2006 he worked as an intern at the Salk Institute for Biological Studies where he was assigned to write computer code for an experiment. Holmes, who was described by his supervisor as stubborn, uncommunicative and socially inept, presented his project to the other interns at the end of the internship, but never actually completed it.[13][14]

Beginning in 2006, he attended the University of California, Riverside (UCR), and in 2010 received his undergraduate degree in neuroscience with the highest honors.[15][16][17][18] He was a member of several honor societies, including Phi Beta Kappa and Golden Key.[19] In the summer of 2008, Holmes worked as a counselor at a residential summer camp in Glendale, California, that catered to needy children aged 7–14. There he was responsible for 10 children and had no disciplinary problems.[20][21]

In June 2011 Holmes enrolled as a Ph.D. student in neuroscience at the University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus in Aurora.[22] He received a $21,600 grant from the National Institutes of Health according to agency records. The grant was from July 2011 to June 2012. Holmes also received a $5,000 stipend from the University of Colorado, Denver.[23][24]

In 2012, his academic performance declined,[25] and he scored poorly on the comprehensive exam in the spring. The university was not planning to expel him. However, Holmes was in the process of withdrawing from the university.[26] Three days after failing a key oral exam at the university in early June 2012, Holmes dropped out of his studies without further explanation.[27]

In Aurora, Holmes lived on Paris Street in a one-bedroom apartment, in a building with other students involved in health studies.[28] In his rental application, he described himself as "quiet and easygoing".[29] He left some digital footprints, like a university email address, an old Myspace photo[30], a dating profile on Match.com,[31] and a profile on Adult FriendFinder, as well as a resume at the employment website Monster.com.[32][33] It was reported that Holmes was a big fan of superheroes, including Batman, and that his apartment was decorated with Batman paraphernalia.[34]

Sometimes people just go crazy. Sometimes they have a sudden onset of derangement which is why it's called a psychotic break.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

OK, here's my new conspiracy theory.

Bright student, James Holmes starts his Ph.D. studies in Neuro-Science at the University of Colorado's*Aurora*campus but Holmes's arrogant, know-it-all attitude annoys someone he works with, perhaps one of the university staff who is a professor or a lecturer or a fellow student who has access to anti-psychotic drugs used to "treat" mental patients. This hypothetical person who has taken a severe dislike to Holmes I will refer to as "Holmes's secret enemy" or HSE.

In an evil, secret lone-wolf science experiment, HSE targets Holmes to poison him with anti-psychotic drugs to see what happens and for the wicked pleasure of doing evil to a perceived enemy.

So one day, HSE slips some anti-psychotic pills into Holmes's coffee. "Here you James, it's with sugar, I hope that's OK?"
Holmes barely looking up from his text books says, "Yeh, thanks" and drinks the poisoned coffee.

The effect of the anti-psychotic drugs is to make Holmes apathetic, the next week or so he sleeps in, he doesn't turn up for work at the university, and administrators expel him from university. Holmes drops out.

Then slowly over a number of weeks, the anti-psychotics wear off and for a brief time Holmes returns to his normal self but then quickly the effect of the withdrawal symptoms from the anti-psychotic drugs kicks in, which is the opposite effect to that when initially taking anti-psychotics - the effect of withdrawal from these anti-psychotic drugs is to induce a psychotic breakdown which Holmes has.

As a result of the withdrawal from the poisoning, the psychotic Holmes plans his lone-wolf shooting massacre.

Deep in his subconscious, as a final plea for help, Holmes writes to his former University professor, a psychiatrist who Holmes still trusts, perhaps naively for all we know, because the psychiatrist professor Holmes writes to could be none other than "HSE" the person who poisoned Holmes and caused his psychosis? Perhaps not. This is only a theory.

Holmes writes to the psychiatrist professor but gets no reply so he reverts to his plan and goes through with the Aurora Theater attack.

This conspiracy theory is hard to prove or disprove but it looks like my conspiracy theory fits the facts.

Whether or not this theory is true, it certainly is true that these anti-psychotic drugs are very dangerous, as dangerous as firearms in their own way.

You should write a book. In reality, Holmes has more in common with John Nash than Tom Clancy. Holmes was simply insane,. While I had thought initially that sending the notebook was some sort of last ditch appeal for help, a psychiatriast pointed out to me that sending the notebook would have been under the doctor patient privilege and the psychiatrist who received it wouldn't have been able to ring the bell at all. However, failure to receive the notebook was just the dereliction of duty of another lazy government employee.

It is also equally as likely that Holmes was slipped some kind of drug by a jilted girlfriend, or a romantic rival, or a gay classmate going to deliver a little payback because Holmes was heterosexual.

Any communication of a threat to others that is credible is reportable and in most States is a requirement. I know in my State this is true as I have been advised of such by my shrink and my therapist. And every time I change doctors I get the warning again.

 

[Katzndogz]

How close is this woman to a psychotic break?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Qrt1k8qHo&feature=player_embedded]HOW COULD YOU DO THIS KRISTEN?! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[eots]

Shooter in Family Murder/Suicide on High Level of Antipsychotics

DE PERE, WI (WTAQ) - Toxicology results show Denis Bay had high levels of prescription drugs used to treat Schizophrenia and Bipolar Disorder when he shot and killed his family in early February. De Pere police say they don’t know what Bay’s tolerance level was, and that the drugs but could have played a role in the shooting death of his wife Michele and their two kids, 14-year-old Amanda and 10-year-old Daniel. De Pere Police Chief Derek Beiderwieden says the drugs may have some affect on judgment when you take more or less of prescribed medication. Toxicology results show Bay had lethal levels, nearly nine times the normal dose of both

http://www.madinamerica.com/2012/03/high-levels-of-antipsychotics-in-shooter-2/

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Shooter in Family Murder/Suicide on High Level of Antipsychotics

DE PERE, WI (WTAQ) - Toxicology results show Denis Bay had high levels of prescription drugs used to treat Schizophrenia and Bipolar Disorder when he shot and killed his family in early February. De Pere police say they don’t know what Bay’s tolerance level was, and that the drugs but could have played a role in the shooting death of his wife Michele and their two kids, 14-year-old Amanda and 10-year-old Daniel. De Pere Police Chief Derek Beiderwieden says the drugs may have some affect on judgment when you take more or less of prescribed medication. Toxicology results show Bay had lethal levels, nearly nine times the normal dose of both

Shooter in Family Murder/Suicide on High Level of Antipsychotics | Mad In America

Yes we all know you are a retard when it comes to treating the mentally ill. You would prefer they all suffer with no medication cause you are as stupid as a rock.

 

[geauxtohell]

Shooter in Family Murder/Suicide on High Level of Antipsychotics

DE PERE, WI (WTAQ) - Toxicology results show Denis Bay had high levels of prescription drugs used to treat Schizophrenia and Bipolar Disorder when he shot and killed his family in early February. De Pere police say they don’t know what Bay’s tolerance level was, and that the drugs but could have played a role in the shooting death of his wife Michele and their two kids, 14-year-old Amanda and 10-year-old Daniel. De Pere Police Chief Derek Beiderwieden says the drugs may have some affect on judgment when you take more or less of prescribed medication. Toxicology results show Bay had lethal levels, nearly nine times the normal dose of both

http://www.madinamerica.com/2012/03/high-levels-of-antipsychotics-in-shooter-2/

Because that's where I go for medical opinions.....

The De Pere Police.

 

[jeanne819]

Your conspiracy theory on James Holmes makes a lot of sense. A fellow student envious of his success could have easily slipped this quiet, intelligent young man anti-psychotic drugs on a regular basis.

 

[Intense]

Shooter in Family Murder/Suicide on High Level of Antipsychotics

DE PERE, WI (WTAQ) - Toxicology results show Denis Bay had high levels of prescription drugs used to treat Schizophrenia and Bipolar Disorder when he shot and killed his family in early February. De Pere police say they don’t know what Bay’s tolerance level was, and that the drugs but could have played a role in the shooting death of his wife Michele and their two kids, 14-year-old Amanda and 10-year-old Daniel. De Pere Police Chief Derek Beiderwieden says the drugs may have some affect on judgment when you take more or less of prescribed medication. Toxicology results show Bay had lethal levels, nearly nine times the normal dose of both

Shooter in Family Murder/Suicide on High Level of Antipsychotics | Mad In America

Because that's where I go for medical opinions.....

The De Pere Police.

Is it wrong to assume the Chief got his info from the Coroner's Report?

 

[Peach]

Since we can't reconcile the simple fact that sometimes people do horrible and evil things to innocent people without any logical motive or reason, we are left to create wild conspiracy theories.....

Yes, and anti psychotics would leave him fatigued, and weak for quite some time, he appears to have been full of energy, and mentally alert. Many, many excuses so that we can pretend it was preventable, thus, it could not happen to the ones we love, or ourselves.