Colin Powell's New Book: War With Iraq Never Debated

[Mustang]

Does anybody (or everybody) see this admission as shocking; the merits of the life and death decision to go to war in Iraq wasn't even discussed at the highest levels of our gov't.

Everywhere in America (from kitchen tables to corporate boardrooms), important decisions are discussed and debated.

"Should we do X? Or should we do Y? What are our other options? What are the pros and cons of each possible choice? Is there any other way we could accomplish our goals with less risk and a lower cost in lives and treasure?
​

But our country just stumbled into a debacle, with apparently little, if any, thought being given to the consequences.

Frankly, I think our founding fathers would be appalled at the cavalier manner in which the decision was made and the haphazard way in which the plan was executed, seemingly with no real foresight into the possible hornet's nest we were stirring up.

WASHINGTON -- In his new book, former Secretary of State Colin Powell provides what may be the most authoritative confirmation yet that there was never a considered debate in the George W. Bush White House about whether going to war in Iraq was really a good idea.


In a chapter discussing what he calls his “infamous” February 2003 speech to the United Nations where he authoritatively presented what was later exposed as gross misinformation about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, Powell notes that by that time, war “was approaching.”


“By then, the President did not think war could be avoided,” Powell writes. “He had crossed the line in his own mind, even though the NSC [National Security Council] had never met -- and never would meet -- to discuss the decision.”

Colin Powell's New Book: War With Iraq Never Debated

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Colin Powell, the one black Republican Dems like only because he never had anything good to say about Republicans.

Fuck him

 

[Mad Scientist]

He has Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, maybe he could have pressed the issue? Naw, he didn't have the authority.

What a piece of sh*t he is!

 

[hortysir]

He has Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, maybe he could have pressed the issue? Naw, he didn't have the authority.

What a piece of sh*t he is!

^^^^ This.


And accepts no responsibility???
No wonder he endorsed Obama.

 

[mudwhistle]

He's gonna be here on post for a book signing the end of the month.

 

[Mustang]

Colin Powell, the one black Republican Dems like only because he never had anything good to say about Republicans.

Fuck him

Conservatives simply can't handle the truth when if fails to be in their favor. You guys need to grow up. There is no such thing as infallible human beings. And consequently, there is no such thing as a political party which is only represented by infallible members who are incapable of making mistakes or who make decisions with only the purest of motives.

Students of human nature understand that. Frankly, it's been understood for hundreds if not thousands of years. Certainly, our founding fathers understood it. THEREFORE, in order to minimize the possibility of human error, or other self-serving and/or short-sighted motives, it's incumbent (no pun intended) on the decision makers to put a process in place in order to at least attempt to make decisions where all possibilities are considered and discussed BEFORE monumental far-reaching decisions are made.

That wasn't done. Obviously!

 

[Political Junky]

I'm not surprised at all that there was no debate.

 

[Immanuel]

He has Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, maybe he could have pressed the issue? Naw, he didn't have the authority.

What a piece of sh*t he is!

All that aside, I would vote for him over either Romney or Obama in a heartbeat.

Immie

 

[mudwhistle]

Colin Powell, the one black Republican Dems like only because he never had anything good to say about Republicans.

Fuck him

Conservatives simply can't handle the truth when if fails to be in their favor. You guys need to grow up. There is no such thing as infallible human beings. And consequently, there is no such thing as a political party which is only represented by infallible members who are incapable of making mistakes or who make decisions with only the purest of motives.

Students of human nature understand that. Frankly, it's been understood for hundreds if not thousands of years. Certainly, our founding fathers understood it. THEREFORE, in order to minimize the possibility of human error, or other self-serving and/or short-sighted motives, it's incumbent (no pun intended) on the decision makers to put a process in place in order to at least attempt to make decisions where all possibilities are considered and discussed BEFORE monumental far-reaching decisions are made.

That wasn't done. Obviously!

After all of the lies that have been thrown at us by the left???

Global Warming Is Man-Made
Obama Said He Would Not Sign Any Bill Containing Ear-marks
Obama Said He Would Get Rid Of Lobbyists
Obama Said He Would Go Through The Budget Line By Line And Cut Out All Of The Fat
The GOP Is Conducting A War On Women
Trayvan Martin Was An Innocent 17 year old
George Zimmerman Hunted Trayvan Down And Killed Him In Cold-Blood
The GOP Wants Dirty Air
Dirty Water
The GOP Wants To Cut Loose Handicapped Children
Throw Grandma Off The Cliff
Wants Old People To Die Quickly
Conducting a Reign Of Terror
GOP Contract Killers
Tea Party Terrorists
The Rich Don't Pay Their Fair Share
The Bush Tax-cuts Were Tax-cuts For The Rich
Peeling Paint And Mildew Means Bush Doesn't Care About The Troops
Mitt Romney Wouldn't Have Gotten Bin Laden
George Soros Is Like Every Other Billionaire
Obama Was For Same-Sex Marriage Before He Was Against It But Now He's For It Again
Obama Pledged To Cut The Deficit In Half By The End Of His First Term
Nancy Pelosi Said The OWS Was A Grassroots Movement That Was Young And Fresh
Nancy Pelosi Said The Tea Party Was An Astroturf Movement
Etc.............

 

[Annie]

Does anybody (or everybody) see this admission as shocking; the merits of the life and death decision to go to war in Iraq wasn't even discussed at the highest levels of our gov't.

Everywhere in America (from kitchen tables to corporate boardrooms), important decisions are discussed and debated.

"Should we do X? Or should we do Y? What are our other options? What are the pros and cons of each possible choice? Is there any other way we could accomplish our goals with less risk and a lower cost in lives and treasure?
​

But our country just stumbled into a debacle, with apparently little, if any, thought being given to the consequences.

Frankly, I think our founding fathers would be appalled at the cavalier manner in which the decision was made and the haphazard way in which the plan was executed, seemingly with no real foresight into the possible hornet's nest we were stirring up.

WASHINGTON -- In his new book, former Secretary of State Colin Powell provides what may be the most authoritative confirmation yet that there was never a considered debate in the George W. Bush White House about whether going to war in Iraq was really a good idea.


In a chapter discussing what he calls his “infamous” February 2003 speech to the United Nations where he authoritatively presented what was later exposed as gross misinformation about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, Powell notes that by that time, war “was approaching.”


“By then, the President did not think war could be avoided,” Powell writes. “He had crossed the line in his own mind, even though the NSC [National Security Council] had never met -- and never would meet -- to discuss the decision.”

Colin Powell's New Book: War With Iraq Never Debated

IF what he says now was true then, WHY did he join in? Did I miss a confession to his coming out as a liar for GOP?

 

[Annie]

He has Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, maybe he could have pressed the issue? Naw, he didn't have the authority.

What a piece of sh*t he is!

But he will be a rich grandpa, no? I'm very disappointed. He screwed two bushes and the GOP, while not helping himself or the DNC.

 

[whitehall]

Come on, Bush gave Saddam a full year to comply with UN sanctions or risk being attacked. Congress gave approval for boots on the ground. Powell was against the first Gulf War and then he took credit for Schwartzkopf's victory. Maybe nobody told him but certainly the attack was discussed on the highest levels.

 

[Lakhota]

I started a similar thread earlier, but I like this one better. Mustang gave it more passion.

 

[rdean]

Colin Powell, the one black Republican Dems like only because he never had anything good to say about Republicans.

Fuck him

Oh, it's Mr. Niggerman hating the black guy. Why doesn't that surprise me?

Do you wake up in the morning saying:

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******
******
******
******
******
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[rdean]

Colin Powell, the one black Republican Dems like only because he never had anything good to say about Republicans.

Fuck him

Conservatives simply can't handle the truth when if fails to be in their favor. You guys need to grow up. There is no such thing as infallible human beings. And consequently, there is no such thing as a political party which is only represented by infallible members who are incapable of making mistakes or who make decisions with only the purest of motives.

Students of human nature understand that. Frankly, it's been understood for hundreds if not thousands of years. Certainly, our founding fathers understood it. THEREFORE, in order to minimize the possibility of human error, or other self-serving and/or short-sighted motives, it's incumbent (no pun intended) on the decision makers to put a process in place in order to at least attempt to make decisions where all possibilities are considered and discussed BEFORE monumental far-reaching decisions are made.

That wasn't done. Obviously!

After all of the lies that have been thrown at us by the left???

Global Warming Is Man-Made
Obama Said He Would Not Sign Any Bill Containing Ear-marks
Obama Said He Would Get Rid Of Lobbyists
Obama Said He Would Go Through The Budget Line By Line And Cut Out All Of The Fat
The GOP Is Conducting A War On Women
Trayvan Martin Was An Innocent 17 year old
George Zimmerman Hunted Trayvan Down And Killed Him In Cold-Blood
The GOP Wants Dirty Air
Dirty Water
The GOP Wants To Cut Loose Handicapped Children
Throw Grandma Off The Cliff
Wants Old People To Die Quickly
Conducting a Reign Of Terror
GOP Contract Killers
Tea Party Terrorists
The Rich Don't Pay Their Fair Share
The Bush Tax-cuts Were Tax-cuts For The Rich
Peeling Paint And Mildew Means Bush Doesn't Care About The Troops
Mitt Romney Wouldn't Have Gotten Bin Laden
George Soros Is Like Every Other Billionaire
Obama Was For Same-Sex Marriage Before He Was Against It But Now He's For It Again
Obama Pledged To Cut The Deficit In Half By The End Of His First Term
Nancy Pelosi Said The OWS Was A Grassroots Movement That Was Young And Fresh
Nancy Pelosi Said The Tea Party Was An Astroturf Movement
Etc.............

See, there's things we can agree on. But normal people don't boast about having these positions.

 

[asaratis]

Huffington Post generally manages to skew to the left. With Congress already having voted to approve invasion, with Democrats and Republicans trusting questionable intelligence, with Saddam Hussein ignoring 14 or so UN resolutions and still making sure we thought he had WMD...I don't see that lack of further "considered debate" is shocking.

Saddam and Sons are dead mofos and the world is a better place.

 

[asaratis]

I started a similar thread earlier, but I like this one better. Mustang gave it more passion.

It's just not a big fuckin' deal. You brain dead liberals are just frantic for things to take the heat off of our discussion of Obama's dismal record.

Bush did this...
Bush did that....
Bush neglected to do x,y,z....
Bush was bad...
The Republicans are bad...


The trouble is when Obama was on his magic carpet ride to the White House...there no serious debate about his qualifications! THAT was a fucking mistake.

 

[Lakhota]

Huffington Post generally manages to skew to the left. With Congress already having voted to approve invasion, with Democrats and Republicans trusting questionable intelligence, with Saddam Hussein ignoring 14 or so UN resolutions and still making sure we thought he had WMD...I don't see that lack of further "considered debate" is shocking.

Saddam and Sons are dead mofos and the world is a better place.

Are you too stupid to open the live source links in the OP?

 

[blackhawk]

I recall a great many people Republican and Democrat and yes Colin Powell as well being very supportive of the war when American troops were being cheered in Iraq and statues of Sadam were being pulled down it was only after things got tough that these same people decided they were tricked, mislead or lied to. If things had continued to go smooth in Iraq instead of taking the hard turn they did I wonder what would be in Powell's book? And if people would still be claiming they were lied to I rather doubt it.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Colin Powell, the one black Republican Dems like only because he never had anything good to say about Republicans.

Fuck him

Oh, it's Mr. Niggerman hating the black guy. Why doesn't that surprise me?

Do you wake up in the morning saying:

******
******
******
******
******
******
******
******
******

CrusaderFrank is a fool. There is no need to give him anymore attention than that.