Coldest Winter in 100 Years

[Chris]

Hmmm, wow, on one hand you have thousands of scientists who have been doing research for years with scientific equipment and gathered data.

On the other, you have Republicans who believe "Noah's Ark" was a historical event and the earth is only a few thousand years old. People who believe science is a religion and evolution is a lie.

Who to believe? Wow, that's a hard one. Look that the choices. It's really difficult knowing who to believe.

meh


30 thousand scientists saying global warming is a hoax convinces everybody except the k00ks that glowbal warming is a myth.

Oregon Petition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Oh ummmm...........over 10,000 of them are phD level!! So what? Are all of them being paid off by the oil industry!!!!!



Dean s0n...........you have the political IQ of a small soap dish!!!!

Are you 15?

The Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine is a right wing nut group and their "petition" is totally bogus.

 

[skookerasbil]

Hmmm, wow, on one hand you have thousands of scientists who have been doing research for years with scientific equipment and gathered data.

On the other, you have Republicans who believe "Noah's Ark" was a historical event and the earth is only a few thousand years old. People who believe science is a religion and evolution is a lie.

Who to believe? Wow, that's a hard one. Look that the choices. It's really difficult knowing who to believe.

meh


30 thousand scientists saying global warming is a hoax convinces everybody except the k00ks that glowbal warming is a myth.

Oregon Petition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Oh ummmm...........over 10,000 of them are phD level!! So what? Are all of them being paid off by the oil industry!!!!!



Dean s0n...........you have the political IQ of a small soap dish!!!!

Are you 15?

The Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine is a right wing nut group and their "petition" is totally bogus.

Thats right............all 30,000 of these scientists are right wing wingnuts ALL being paid handsomely by Big Oil!!!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

Yo Chris..............................

 

[mudwhistle]

You mean like the ones who have been LYING about it for 13+ years?

How about all the ones who predicted that we'd be in an ice age by now in the 1970's. Or the Population Bomb? Or Mass Starvation? Or that we'd be out of oil in 1980?

Please. You have just as much attachment to 'fantasy' as you accuse anybody who believes in the Bible.

Sanctimonious hypocrite.

Ice age? Link? Oh, you mean when they first started studying Global Warming?

The ones who have been lying? Does that mean all of them lied? No? What percentage? 50%, 30%, 0.000002%?

Out of oil in 1980? Well, we are idiot child, that's why we buy foreign oil. Duh! Middle Eastern Oil isn't ours.

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'Double food output to stop world starving,' say scientists - Science, News - The Independent

They cite the original green revolution of the 1960s when new crop varieties, greater use of agro-chemicals, and a change in farming practices led to a dramatic increase in food production: it leapt from 1.84 billion tonnes in 1961 to 4.38 billion tonnes in 2007. But scientists accept that this increase came at great environmental cost, and the Royal Society report warns that a second green revolution has to be based on a sustainable increase in global food production without a significant expansion in the area of land turned over to farming.

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It was scientists who stopped mass starvation, NOT Bible thumpers. Actually, it's the Bible thumpers who have added to the problem.

Jesus, do you guys have to "practice" dumb? That much dumb can't possibly be "natural".

How stupid can you be, rdean? Jeez. You are one truly ignorant tool.

We are not buying Arab oil because WE are "out" of it. rdean =

"We" have plenty of it. But due to moronic liberoidal "policies," "we" can't drill for it or refine it.

Some studies have suggested that "we" may have more oil reserves than exist in all of the Arab world.

I think it has more to do with we can't make enough money buying our own oil from the oil companies.

They sell most of the oil they produce in Alaska to other countries. I don't think it's because we have more then everyone else. I think it has more to not wanting to sell what we have and leave ourselves with no reserves.

 

[Liability]

Britain facing one of the coldest winters in 100 years, experts predict

Let me get this right. The everything gets colder on the planet, ...

You're wrong already.

I love it, someone makes a PREDICTION about one small place and to the deniers that means "everything gets colder."

You place a whole lot of FAITH in that "data," edthesickdick.



What time was the data cooked? Who cooked it? At what temperature was the data cooked? For how long? Does somebody have to buy a carbon offset for using that much energy? What data got withheld? Does it come with desert or dessert?

 

[Baruch Menachem]

What time was the data cooked? Who cooked it? At what temperature was the data cooked? For how long? Does somebody have to buy a carbon offset for using that much energy? What data got withheld? Does it come with desert or dessert?

First you put your data in a sauce pan with a lot of palm grease. Slowly raise the temperature, but don't let it get burnt.

the stove should be electric, with energy supplied by wind. Large amounts of wind can be harvested in Washington DC or in NYC along the East River, so carbon offsets won't be necessary.

The dessert option is Baked Alaska.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Britain facing one of the coldest winters in 100 years, experts predict

Let me get this right. The everything gets colder on the planet, ...

You're wrong already.

I love it, someone makes a PREDICTION about one small place and to the deniers that means "everything gets colder."

So the USA is colder because it produces more than its fair share of Earth Warming CO2...gotcha

More CO2= Mo' Cold.

 

[edthecynic]

Britain facing one of the coldest winters in 100 years, experts predict

Let me get this right. The everything gets colder on the planet, ...

You're wrong already.

I love it, someone makes a PREDICTION about one small place and to the deniers that means "everything gets colder."

So the USA is colder because it produces more than its fair share of Earth Warming CO2...gotcha

More CO2= Mo' Cold.

A perfect example of the MORONIC "logic" of a denier.
Gases don't circulate around the Earth, they sit in one place and one place only.
BRILLIANT, absolutely BRILLIANT!

 

[Sinatra]

What is being missed by those reviewing that NCDC graphic is that it entails a comparative time period of 30 years, starting in 1971 when dire warning of an impending Ice Age were being sounded. These warning continued throughout the 1970's as did lower than "normal" temps.

So you have a "norm baseline" that was constructed from a decade of below normal temps, thus we see yet more sleight of hand being performed by the flat-earth global warmers.

Now satellite data is a bit more accurate than the surface temps that are open to manipulations to coordinate a predetermined outcome - aka, "Hide the Decline." (satellite data can be manipulated as well though - so proceed with caution!)

This data only goes back about 30 years though, so its use is relatively short term in overall global temperature comparisons. That being said, the satellite data trends do not show a current crisis in global temps...

1998 is clearly an outlier. Remove that one year of temperature readings from the 30 year satellite record and we see global temps that remain relatively stable.

Man-Made Global Warming is utter bullshit...

 

[edthecynic]

What is being missed by those reviewing that NCDC graphic is that it entails a comparative time period of 30 years, starting in 1971 when dire warning of an impending Ice Age were being sounded. These warning continued throughout the 1970's as did lower than "normal" temps.

So you have a "norm baseline" that was constructed from a decade of below normal temps, thus we see yet more sleight of hand being performed by the flat-earth global warmers.

Now satellite data is a bit more accurate than the surface temps that are open to manipulations to coordinate a predetermined outcome - aka, "Hide the Decline." (satellite data can be manipulated as well though - so proceed with caution!)

This data only goes back about 30 years though, so its use is relatively short term in overall global temperature comparisons. That being said, the satellite data trends do not show a current crisis in global temps...

1998 is clearly an outlier. Remove that one year of temperature readings from the 30 year satellite record and we see global temps that remain relatively stable.

Man-Made Global Warming is utter bullshit...

Well, there you go again, using the discredited cooked UAH satellite data where deniers Christy and Spencer got caught using the opposite sign to correct for Diurnal Satellite Drift. CON$ never use the RSS satellite data or the UAH data using the correct sign for Diurnal Satellite Drift, they only and exclusively use data they KNOW to be cooked. You got caught with your phony charts on another thread, only to post what you know to be lies on this thread.

In reality, the uncooked satellite data matches the surface temp data, so the "more accurate" satellite data CONFIRMS the surface temp data.

 

[Old Rocks]

No. It's not. It's still JUST a theory. And it is not an especially compelling theory, either.

Only compelling enough that all the Scientific Societies in the world, all the National Academies of Science, and all the major Universities state that it is a fact.

But fucking dummies that cannot accept reality do not accept it. Which changes the reality not one whit.

Geez........another fcukking k00k.

s0n...........well over 30K scientists from around the world would say, "All??? WTF s0n>??????????






epic fail.................

Links, dumbass?

 

[Old Rocks]

Hmmm, wow, on one hand you have thousands of scientists who have been doing research for years with scientific equipment and gathered data.

On the other, you have Republicans who believe "Noah's Ark" was a historical event and the earth is only a few thousand years old. People who believe science is a religion and evolution is a lie.

Who to believe? Wow, that's a hard one. Look that the choices. It's really difficult knowing who to believe.

meh


30 thousand scientists saying global warming is a hoax convinces everybody except the k00ks that glowbal warming is a myth.

Oregon Petition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Oh ummmm...........over 10,000 of them are phD level!! So what? Are all of them being paid off by the oil industry!!!!!



Dean s0n...........you have the political IQ of a small soap dish!!!!

30,000 what?

Oregon Petition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 2001, Scientific American reported:

“ Scientific American took a random sample of 30 of the 1,400 signatories claiming to hold a Ph.D. in a climate-related science. Of the 26 we were able to identify in various databases, 11 said they still agreed with the petition —- one was an active climate researcher, two others had relevant expertise, and eight signed based on an informal evaluation. Six said they would not sign the petition today, three did not remember any such petition, one had died, and five did not answer repeated messages. Crudely extrapolating, the petition supporters include a core of about 200 climate researchers – a respectable number, though rather a small fraction of the climatological community.[23] ”

In a 2005 op-ed in the Hawaii Reporter, Todd Shelly wrote:

“ In less than 10 minutes of casual scanning, I found duplicate names (Did two Joe R. Eaglemans and two David Tompkins sign the petition, or were some individuals counted twice?), single names without even an initial (Biolchini), corporate names (Graybeal & Sayre, Inc. How does a business sign a petition?), and an apparently phony single name (Redwine, Ph.D.). These examples underscore a major weakness of the list: there is no way to check the authenticity of the names. Names are given, but no identifying information (e.g., institutional affiliation) is provided. Why the lack of transparency

 

[Big Fitz]

You mean like the ones who have been LYING about it for 13+ years?

How about all the ones who predicted that we'd be in an ice age by now in the 1970's. Or the Population Bomb? Or Mass Starvation? Or that we'd be out of oil in 1980?

Please. You have just as much attachment to 'fantasy' as you accuse anybody who believes in the Bible.

Sanctimonious hypocrite.

Ice age? Link? Oh, you mean when they first started studying Global Warming?

The ones who have been lying? Does that mean all of them lied? No? What percentage? 50%, 30%, 0.000002%?

Out of oil in 1980? Well, we are idiot child, that's why we buy foreign oil. Duh! Middle Eastern Oil isn't ours.

------------------------

'Double food output to stop world starving,' say scientists - Science, News - The Independent

They cite the original green revolution of the 1960s when new crop varieties, greater use of agro-chemicals, and a change in farming practices led to a dramatic increase in food production: it leapt from 1.84 billion tonnes in 1961 to 4.38 billion tonnes in 2007. But scientists accept that this increase came at great environmental cost, and the Royal Society report warns that a second green revolution has to be based on a sustainable increase in global food production without a significant expansion in the area of land turned over to farming.

-------------------------

It was scientists who stopped mass starvation, NOT Bible thumpers. Actually, it's the Bible thumpers who have added to the problem.

Jesus, do you guys have to "practice" dumb? That much dumb can't possibly be "natural".

How stupid can you be, rdean? Jeez. You are one truly ignorant tool.

We are not buying Arab oil because WE are "out" of it. rdean =

"We" have plenty of it. But due to moronic liberoidal "policies," "we" can't drill for it or refine it.

Some studies have suggested that "we" may have more oil reserves than exist in all of the Arab world.

Out of oil in 1980? Well, we are idiot child, that's why we buy foreign oil. Duh! Middle Eastern Oil isn't ours.

We've capped hundreds if not thousands of wells all over the US because we interfere with the oil companies doing it cheaply, and it is far easier to pull it out of the sand in Canada, Mexico and the Middle east. You do realize that our biggest 2 suppliers of Oil are in this hemisphere right? A Hemisphere is one half of the globe BTW.

We have put political obstacles in the way of doing this efficiency, taxed profit into oblivion to prevent the energy companies from growing more, and have done lots of different bureacratic and legislative protectionism to protect inefficient and wasteful forms of energy and industry due to political bribes... I mean lobbying.

I was told in the 1970's by dim bulb peakers that we'd be out of oil by 1990. Strange, every time I turn around a bigger deposit is found, or the reserves go up, yet these nattering nabobs of nincompoopery keep saying we're going to run out of oil tomorrow and yet suffer no consequences when they are wrong... yet again.

So, you're still a sanctimonious hypocrite and now doubly the idiot.

 

[Big Fitz]

A perfect example of the MORONIC "logic" of a denier.
Gases don't circulate around the Earth, they sit in one place and one place only.
BRILLIANT, absolutely BRILLIANT!

So... there's a ton of human development in northern Canadian Provinces? Who knew that Nunavut and the Eskimo tribes there would be polluting so much. And that economic powerhouse of Siberia! Wow... look at them dump CO2 into the atmosphere.

Shoehorn the findings much?

 

[uscitizen]

Umm and winter has been going on for what? 2 weeks?

 

[Sinatra]

What is being missed by those reviewing that NCDC graphic is that it entails a comparative time period of 30 years, starting in 1971 when dire warning of an impending Ice Age were being sounded. These warning continued throughout the 1970's as did lower than "normal" temps.

So you have a "norm baseline" that was constructed from a decade of below normal temps, thus we see yet more sleight of hand being performed by the flat-earth global warmers.

Now satellite data is a bit more accurate than the surface temps that are open to manipulations to coordinate a predetermined outcome - aka, "Hide the Decline." (satellite data can be manipulated as well though - so proceed with caution!)

This data only goes back about 30 years though, so its use is relatively short term in overall global temperature comparisons. That being said, the satellite data trends do not show a current crisis in global temps...

1998 is clearly an outlier. Remove that one year of temperature readings from the 30 year satellite record and we see global temps that remain relatively stable.

Man-Made Global Warming is utter bullshit...

The above stands.

Nothing the flat-earther warmers have stated disputes it...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's like Ian Malcolm on the Jurassic Park ride, "Um John, there are dinosaurs on the dinosaur ride, right?"

"Um, Warmers, it's supposed to be warmer during Global Warming, right?"

 

[Polk]

What is being missed by those reviewing that NCDC graphic is that it entails a comparative time period of 30 years, starting in 1971 when dire warning of an impending Ice Age were being sounded. These warning continued throughout the 1970's as did lower than "normal" temps.

So you have a "norm baseline" that was constructed from a decade of below normal temps, thus we see yet more sleight of hand being performed by the flat-earth global warmers.

Now satellite data is a bit more accurate than the surface temps that are open to manipulations to coordinate a predetermined outcome - aka, "Hide the Decline." (satellite data can be manipulated as well though - so proceed with caution!)

This data only goes back about 30 years though, so its use is relatively short term in overall global temperature comparisons. That being said, the satellite data trends do not show a current crisis in global temps...

1998 is clearly an outlier. Remove that one year of temperature readings from the 30 year satellite record and we see global temps that remain relatively stable.

Man-Made Global Warming is utter bullshit...

The above stands.

Nothing the flat-earther warmers have stated disputes it...

Just a few posts after yours (and before you posted this) someone pointed out you're using a faulty data set. Instead of engaging in debate, you just run around and shout victory.

 

[rdean]

Hey Dean..........I gotta give you credit s0n...........I pop into this forum once in a blue moon and invariably, you have posted up about 1,000 posts within a weeks time = you're a fcukking ocd moron with this environmental sh!t OR you're getting paid off by some spin-off Gore group. One or the other..........no other options.


Anyway...........I come on here and school your sorry ass every time and yet come back here a few months later and you're still posting up your OCD shit.


Dude...........they have stuff. Its called Effexor XR. Stops the perseverative thinking stuff. You should look into it............I swear, you may feel re-born s0n..............

Nasty.

 

[rdean]

You mean like the ones who have been LYING about it for 13+ years?

How about all the ones who predicted that we'd be in an ice age by now in the 1970's. Or the Population Bomb? Or Mass Starvation? Or that we'd be out of oil in 1980?

Please. You have just as much attachment to 'fantasy' as you accuse anybody who believes in the Bible.

Sanctimonious hypocrite.

Ice age? Link? Oh, you mean when they first started studying Global Warming?

The ones who have been lying? Does that mean all of them lied? No? What percentage? 50%, 30%, 0.000002%?

Out of oil in 1980? Well, we are idiot child, that's why we buy foreign oil. Duh! Middle Eastern Oil isn't ours.

------------------------

'Double food output to stop world starving,' say scientists - Science, News - The Independent

They cite the original green revolution of the 1960s when new crop varieties, greater use of agro-chemicals, and a change in farming practices led to a dramatic increase in food production: it leapt from 1.84 billion tonnes in 1961 to 4.38 billion tonnes in 2007. But scientists accept that this increase came at great environmental cost, and the Royal Society report warns that a second green revolution has to be based on a sustainable increase in global food production without a significant expansion in the area of land turned over to farming.

-------------------------

It was scientists who stopped mass starvation, NOT Bible thumpers. Actually, it's the Bible thumpers who have added to the problem.

Jesus, do you guys have to "practice" dumb? That much dumb can't possibly be "natural".

How stupid can you be, rdean? Jeez. You are one truly ignorant tool.

We are not buying Arab oil because WE are "out" of it. rdean =

"We" have plenty of it. But due to moronic liberoidal "policies," "we" can't drill for it or refine it.

Some studies have suggested that "we" may have more oil reserves than exist in all of the Arab world.

Oh, that's right. We have "plenty" of oil. Uh, where exactly is it? "Offshore"?