Colder Oceans May be the cause of increasing ice.

[code1211]

Graphs of the heat content of oceans from around the world show that about 80% of the ocean water is cooling.

The ocean water in the arctic is one of the areas in which the water is cooling.

As the oceans cool, the great store of heat energy they hold is depleating.

Chris, this is the answer you have been seeking. With the Sun decreasing in strength, there is an impact and it is measurable and it is producing a real world effect.

Ocean Heat Content: Dropping again « Watts Up With That?

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Ocean Heat Content: Dropping again
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I found Bob&#8217;s Arctic Ocean Heat Content graph quite interesting as it may explain why we are seeing a recovery in sea ice for the last two years. It also reminds me a lot of the graph seen of the Barents Sea water temperature plotted against the AMO which WUWT recently covered here

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New paper: Barents Sea Temperature correlated to the AMO as much as 4°C &#8211; potential for sea ice effect « Watts Up With That?

 

[Sinatra]

Graphs of the heat content of oceans from around the world show that about 80% of the ocean water is cooling.

The ocean water in the arctic is one of the areas in which the water is cooling.

As the oceans cool, the great store of heat energy they hold is depleating.

Chris, this is the answer you have been seeking. With the Sun decreasing in strength, there is an impact and it is measurable and it is producing a real world effect.

Ocean Heat Content: Dropping again « Watts Up With That?

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Ocean Heat Content: Dropping again
9

10

2009
I found Bob’s Arctic Ocean Heat Content graph quite interesting as it may explain why we are seeing a recovery in sea ice for the last two years. It also reminds me a lot of the graph seen of the Barents Sea water temperature plotted against the AMO which WUWT recently covered here

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New paper: Barents Sea Temperature correlated to the AMO as much as 4°C – potential for sea ice effect « Watts Up With That?

Don Easterbrook has started to look at this info in earnest of late, correlating it to the solar irradiance history, as have others in the science community. Easterbrook's thoughts, and those like him, have been aggressively minimized by the global warmer industry - and it is an industry. Gore, Soros, etc., are looking to make BILLIONS off of this scheme...


Here is one of many Easterbrook links on this subject...


http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~dbunny/research/global/solar.pdf

 

[Old Rocks]

The world's ocean surface temperature was the warmest on record for July, breaking the previous record set in 1998, reports NOAA's National Climatic Data Center. At 62.56°F (16.99°C), ocean temperatures were 1.06°F (0.59°C) above the 20th century average.

The combined average global land and ocean surface temperature for July 2009 (61.43°F - 16.37°C) ranked as the fifth-warmest since recordkeeping began in 1880.

Record global ocean temperature in July

 

[Old Rocks]

The Australian Institute of Marine Science (AIMS) weather monitoring stations show water temperatures have begun to rise already without having reached their average winter minimums.

Climatologist Dr Janice Lough says it could signal a very bad year for coral bleaching.

"Just looking at the records from the weather stations, some of them have been going for about 20 years and this year seems to be particularly unusual that some of the stations didn't get down to their usual minimum and they all seem to be starting to warm over the last week or two quite rapidly," she said.
Rising ocean temperature 'threatens coral' - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

 

[Old Rocks]

The world's ocean surfaces had their warmest summer temperatures on record, the US national climatic data centre said today.

Climate change has been steadily raising the earth's average temperature in recent decades, but climatologists expected additional warming this year and next due to the influence of El Niño.

Ocean surface temperatures were the warmest for any August since record keeping began in 1880. For the June to August summer months, average ocean surface temperatures rose to 16.9C (62.5F), which is 1.04F above the 20th century average, said the report from the climate centre, which is a branch of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

The world's combined average land and ocean surface temperatures were the second warmest on record for August, and the third warmest for the summer months.

"During the season, warmer-than-average temperatures engulfed much of the planet's surface," the centre said. Australia and New Zealand had their warmest August since records began.
Ocean surfaces have warmest summer on record, US report finds | Environment | guardian.co.uk

 

[Old Rocks]

New research suggests that ocean temperature and associated sea level increases between 1961 and 2003 were 50 percent larger than estimated in the 2007 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report.

The results are reported in the June 19 edition of the journal Nature. An international team of researchers, including Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory climate scientist Peter Gleckler, compared climate models with improved observations that show sea levels rose by 1.5 millimeters per year in the period from 1961-2003. That equates to an approximately 2½-inch increase in ocean levels in a 42-year span.
Ocean temperatures and sea level increases 50 percent higher than earlier predictions (6/19/2008)

 

[Old Rocks]

Published on Thursday, August 20, 2009 by Associated Press
In Hot Water: World Sets Ocean Temperature Record
by Seth Borenstein

WASHINGTON &#8212; Steve Kramer spent an hour and a half swimming in the ocean Sunday &#8212; in Maine. The water temperature was 72 degrees &#8212; more like Ocean City, Md., this time of year. And Ocean City's water temp hit 88 degrees this week, toasty even by Miami Beach standards.

Kramer, 26, who lives in the seaside town of Scarborough, said it was the first time he's ever swam so long in Maine's coastal waters. "Usually, you're in five minutes and you're out," he said.

It's not just the ocean off the Northeast coast that is super-warm this summer. July was the hottest the world's oceans have been in almost 130 years of record-keeping.
In Hot Water: World Sets Ocean Temperature Record | CommonDreams.org

 

[Old Rocks]

July was the warmest the world's oceans have been in almost 130 years of record-keeping.

The average surface water temperature worldwide was 17 C, according to the National Climatic Data Center, the branch of the U.S. government that keeps world weather records. That was 0.6 C higher than the 20th-century average, and beat the previous high set in 1998 by a couple hundredths of a degree.

The coolest recorded global surface ocean temperature was 15.1 C in December 1909.

Meteorologists said there's a combination of forces at work this year: A natural El Nino system just getting started on top of worsening man-made global warming, and a dash of random weather variations. The resulting ocean warmth is already harming threatened coral reefs. It could also hasten the melting of Arctic sea ice and help hurricanes strengthen.

The Gulf of Mexico, where warm water fuels hurricanes, has temperatures dancing around 32. Most of the water in the Northern Hemisphere has been considerably warmer than normal. The Mediterranean is about three degrees warmer than normal. Higher temperatures rule in the Pacific and Indian oceans.
CBC News - Technology & Science - Ocean surface temperature hits record high

 

[Old Rocks]

GISS Surface Temperature Analysis
Analysis Graphs and Plots
Figures on this page were prepared by Dr. Makiko Sato. Please address questions about the figures to Dr. Sato or to Dr. James Hansen.

Click on any graph to view an enlargement of the image. PDF documents require a special viewer such as the free Adobe Reader.

What's New
Sep. 11, 2009: NOAA NCDC provided an updated file on Sept. 9 of the GHCN data used in our analysis. The new file has increased data quality checks in the tropics. Beginning Sept. 11 the GISS analysis uses the new NOAA data set.
Jan. 13, 2009: 2008 calendar year temperature summary was posted.
Dec. 16, 2008: 2008 meteorological year temperature summary was posted.
Nov. 13, 2008: NOAA corrected GHCN data for October, 2008 again (second correction). Monthly figures have been corrected (third version).
Nov. 12, 2008: Monthly graphs and maps were created with corrected NOAA/GHCN data.
Nov. 11, 2008: The monthly graphs and maps with yesterday's October data were removed.
Nov. 10, 2008: Monthly graphs and maps were updated with NOAA/GHCN October data which had some problems.
Data @ NASA GISS: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis: Graphs

Perhaps one should look at more trustworthy sources.

 

[Sinatra]

Graphs of the heat content of oceans from around the world show that about 80% of the ocean water is cooling.

The ocean water in the arctic is one of the areas in which the water is cooling.

As the oceans cool, the great store of heat energy they hold is depleating.

Chris, this is the answer you have been seeking. With the Sun decreasing in strength, there is an impact and it is measurable and it is producing a real world effect.

Ocean Heat Content: Dropping again « Watts Up With That?

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Ocean Heat Content: Dropping again
9

10

2009
I found Bob’s Arctic Ocean Heat Content graph quite interesting as it may explain why we are seeing a recovery in sea ice for the last two years. It also reminds me a lot of the graph seen of the Barents Sea water temperature plotted against the AMO which WUWT recently covered here

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New paper: Barents Sea Temperature correlated to the AMO as much as 4°C – potential for sea ice effect « Watts Up With That?

Sorry Old Rocks - the data has got you on the outside looking in - and it's getting cold out there...

 

[Old Rocks]

Quite on the contrary, the ocean is warmer right now than it has ever been.

What causes short term changes in ocean heat?

What causes short term changes in ocean heat?
Over the past 40 years, global ocean heat content has shown a long term warming trend. However, the warming hasn't been monotonic. There are periods where ocean heat drops for several years before the warming trend resumes. On several occasions, this is due to large volcanic eruptions which cause a drop in global temperatures. On other occasions, upper ocean heat drops with no volcanic activity. What causes these breaks in warming?

 

[Old Rocks]

Here&#8217;s an extended excerpt of the full story:

AP on record ocean warming: &#8220;Breaking heat records in water is more ominous as a sign of global warming than breaking temperature marks on land.&#8221; « Climate Progress
July was the hottest the world&#8217;s oceans have been in almost 130 years of record-keeping.

The average water temperature worldwide was 17 C, according to the National Climatic Data Center, the branch of the U.S. government that keeps world weather records. June was only slightly cooler, while August could set another record, scientists say. The previous record was set in July, 1998, during a powerful El Nino weather pattern.

Meteorologists said there&#8217;s a combination of forces at work: A natural El Nino system just getting started on top of worsening man-made global warming, and a dash of random weather variations. The resulting ocean heat is already harming threatened coral reefs. It could also hasten the melting of Arctic sea ice and help hurricanes strengthen.

The Gulf of Mexico, where warm water fuels hurricanes, has temperatures dancing around 32. Most of the water in the Northern Hemisphere has been considerably warmer than normal. The Mediterranean is about three degrees warmer than normal. Higher temperatures rule in the Pacific and Indian Oceans.

The heat is most noticeable near the Arctic, where water temperatures are as much as 12 degrees above average. The tongues of warm water could help melt sea ice from below and even cause thawing of ice sheets on Greenland, said Waleed Abdalati, director of the Earth Science and Observation Center at the University of Colorado

 

[Old Rocks]

Upper ocean heat content in the Nordic seas

Upper ocean heat content in the Nordic seas
Daniela Di Iorio

Department of Marine Sciences, University of Georgia, Athens, Georgia, USA

Caitlin Sloan

Department of Marine Sciences, University of Georgia, Athens, Georgia, USA

Seven years of temperature profiles are obtained from the Argo float project and are used to study the vertically integrated heat content for the Nordic seas which is broken up into the Norwegian Basin, Greenland Sea, Lofoten region, and Iceland Plateau. The World Ocean Atlas 2005 (WOA05) is used as the climatological baseline for temperature and hence heat content. Temporally and spatially averaged temperature profiles within the Norwegian and Iceland basins show good agreement between the Argo and WOA05 data sets. For the Greenland and Lofoten basins, the WOA05 data show cooler surface temperatures (by 1&#8211;2°C) but still lie within 1 standard deviation of each other over the 7&#8208;year period. The Argo float data show circulation within each of the basins that is counterclockwise, and some of the floats eventually disperse toward the outer edges of the basins. Vertically integrated heat content from 0 to 1200 m shows similar characteristics as the WOA05 results including the timing and strength of the seasonal variability. The anomalous heat content for the Greenland and Norwegian sea basins is calculated in depth bins of 400 m. The Greenland Sea shows a warming trend over the 7 years of study, which corresponds to a temperature increase of (4.1 ± 0.3) × 10&#8722;2 °C/yr. The Norwegian Sea basin shows interannual variability in heat content for the surface layer (0&#8211;400 m) that may be related to the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO). During an NAO+ phase, the Norwegian Basin shows a warm phase, and during an NAO&#8722; phase, the Norwegian Basin is in a cold phase; the correlation is small (r = 0.32) but different from zero correlation only at the 90% level, implying that the variability in the AHC may be due to (1) local atmospheric forcing and hence changes in heat loss, (2) atmospheric pressure differences that are not resolved by the NAO index, and (3) exchange of heat with the basin boundaries.
Upper ocean heat content in the Nordic seas

 

[Sinatra]

Graphs of the heat content of oceans from around the world show that about 80% of the ocean water is cooling.

The ocean water in the arctic is one of the areas in which the water is cooling.

As the oceans cool, the great store of heat energy they hold is depleating.

Chris, this is the answer you have been seeking. With the Sun decreasing in strength, there is an impact and it is measurable and it is producing a real world effect.

Ocean Heat Content: Dropping again « Watts Up With That?

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Ocean Heat Content: Dropping again
9

10

2009
I found Bob’s Arctic Ocean Heat Content graph quite interesting as it may explain why we are seeing a recovery in sea ice for the last two years. It also reminds me a lot of the graph seen of the Barents Sea water temperature plotted against the AMO which WUWT recently covered here

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New paper: Barents Sea Temperature correlated to the AMO as much as 4°C – potential for sea ice effect « Watts Up With That?

Data kicking your ass Old Rocks.

Time to come in from the cold...

 

[FactFinder]

Old Rocks,

All this thread spamming is making you look desperate. It is ok to be wrong. We all are at times.

Yes after 30 years of warming the ocean has been heated up. But it is now cooling. A good thing it is warm as it will at least for a time moderate the air temp till the sun's irradiance once again heighten's its intensity.

 

[code1211]

Graphs of the heat content of oceans from around the world show that about 80% of the ocean water is cooling.

The ocean water in the arctic is one of the areas in which the water is cooling.

As the oceans cool, the great store of heat energy they hold is depleating.

Chris, this is the answer you have been seeking. With the Sun decreasing in strength, there is an impact and it is measurable and it is producing a real world effect.

Ocean Heat Content: Dropping again « Watts Up With That?

<snip>

Ocean Heat Content: Dropping again
9

10

2009
I found Bob’s Arctic Ocean Heat Content graph quite interesting as it may explain why we are seeing a recovery in sea ice for the last two years. It also reminds me a lot of the graph seen of the Barents Sea water temperature plotted against the AMO which WUWT recently covered here

<snip>



New paper: Barents Sea Temperature correlated to the AMO as much as 4°C – potential for sea ice effect « Watts Up With That?

Sorry Old Rocks - the data has got you on the outside looking in - and it's getting cold out there...

It's interesting that Rocks cites sources for the areas of the oceans that actually did warm and from the middle of summer or earlier. The sources from the early fall are quoting data that is from summer.

There is something going on with the temperature as the increasing Arctic Ice and my decreasing comfort would indicate.

My cr is idling in the driveway right now trying to increase the local global warming. No luck at this point.

 

[Sinatra]

Yes, the Arctic Ice is accumulating at surprising rates - joining the longer term accumulations that have been taking place in the Antarctic.

It appears those in the scientific community calling for a cooling trend are proving correct...

 

[code1211]

Yes, the Arctic Ice is accumulating at surprising rates - joining the longer term accumulations that have been taking place in the Antarctic.

It appears those in the scientific community calling for a cooling trend are proving correct...

In the mean time, when the Ice Extent was decreasing, it was proof of warmer water. Now that the Ice Extent is increasing, it proof of...

wait for it...

Warmer water.

Very tidy.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yes, the Arctic Ice is accumulating at surprising rates - joining the longer term accumulations that have been taking place in the Antarctic.

It appears those in the scientific community calling for a cooling trend are proving correct...

Bullshit!

Increasing rates of ice mass loss from the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets revealed by GRACE

Increasing rates of ice mass loss from the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets revealed by GRACE

Increasing rates of ice mass loss from the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets revealed by GRACE
I. Velicogna

Department of Earth System Science, University of California, Irvine, California, USA

Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, California, USA

We use monthly measurements of time-variable gravity from the GRACE (Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment) satellite gravity mission to determine the ice mass-loss for the Greenland and Antarctic Ice Sheets during the period between April 2002 and February 2009. We find that during this time period the mass loss of the ice sheets is not a constant, but accelerating with time, i.e., that the GRACE observations are better represented by a quadratic trend than by a linear one, implying that the ice sheets contribution to sea level becomes larger with time. In Greenland, the mass loss increased from 137 Gt/yr in 2002–2003 to 286 Gt/yr in 2007–2009, i.e., an acceleration of &#8722;30 ± 11 Gt/yr2 in 2002–2009. In Antarctica the mass loss increased from 104 Gt/yr in 2002–2006 to 246 Gt/yr in 2006–2009, i.e., an acceleration of &#8722;26 ± 14 Gt/yr2 in 2002–2009. The observed acceleration in ice sheet mass loss helps reconcile GRACE ice mass estimates obtained for different time periods.

Received 28 July 2009; accepted 3 September 2009; published 13 October 2009.

Citation: Velicogna, I. (2009), Increasing rates of ice mass loss from the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets revealed by GRACE, Geophys. Res. Lett., 36, L19503, doi:10.1029/2009GL040222.

 

[Sinatra]

Yes, the Arctic Ice is accumulating at surprising rates - joining the longer term accumulations that have been taking place in the Antarctic.

It appears those in the scientific community calling for a cooling trend are proving correct...

In the mean time, when the Ice Extent was decreasing, it was proof of warmer water. Now that the Ice Extent is increasing, it proof of...

wait for it...

Warmer water.

Very tidy.

Indeed!