Colder Oceans May be the cause of increasing ice.

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    Graphs of the heat content of oceans from around the world show that about 80% of the ocean water is cooling.

    The ocean water in the arctic is one of the areas in which the water is cooling.

    As the oceans cool, the great store of heat energy they hold is depleating.

    Chris, this is the answer you have been seeking. With the Sun decreasing in strength, there is an impact and it is measurable and it is producing a real world effect.

    Ocean Heat Content: Dropping again « Watts Up With That?

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    I found Bob&#8217;s Arctic Ocean Heat Content graph quite interesting as it may explain why we are seeing a recovery in sea ice for the last two years. It also reminds me a lot of the graph seen of the Barents Sea water temperature plotted against the AMO which WUWT recently covered here

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    New paper: Barents Sea Temperature correlated to the AMO as much as 4°C &#8211; potential for sea ice effect « Watts Up With That?
     
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    Don Easterbrook has started to look at this info in earnest of late, correlating it to the solar irradiance history, as have others in the science community. Easterbrook's thoughts, and those like him, have been aggressively minimized by the global warmer industry - and it is an industry. Gore, Soros, etc., are looking to make BILLIONS off of this scheme...


    Here is one of many Easterbrook links on this subject...


    http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~dbunny/research/global/solar.pdf
     
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    The world's ocean surface temperature was the warmest on record for July, breaking the previous record set in 1998, reports NOAA's National Climatic Data Center. At 62.56°F (16.99°C), ocean temperatures were 1.06°F (0.59°C) above the 20th century average.

    The combined average global land and ocean surface temperature for July 2009 (61.43°F - 16.37°C) ranked as the fifth-warmest since recordkeeping began in 1880.

    Record global ocean temperature in July
     
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    The Australian Institute of Marine Science (AIMS) weather monitoring stations show water temperatures have begun to rise already without having reached their average winter minimums.

    Climatologist Dr Janice Lough says it could signal a very bad year for coral bleaching.

    "Just looking at the records from the weather stations, some of them have been going for about 20 years and this year seems to be particularly unusual that some of the stations didn't get down to their usual minimum and they all seem to be starting to warm over the last week or two quite rapidly," she said.
    Rising ocean temperature 'threatens coral' - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
     
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    The world's ocean surfaces had their warmest summer temperatures on record, the US national climatic data centre said today.

    Climate change has been steadily raising the earth's average temperature in recent decades, but climatologists expected additional warming this year and next due to the influence of El Niño.

    Ocean surface temperatures were the warmest for any August since record keeping began in 1880. For the June to August summer months, average ocean surface temperatures rose to 16.9C (62.5F), which is 1.04F above the 20th century average, said the report from the climate centre, which is a branch of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

    The world's combined average land and ocean surface temperatures were the second warmest on record for August, and the third warmest for the summer months.

    "During the season, warmer-than-average temperatures engulfed much of the planet's surface," the centre said. Australia and New Zealand had their warmest August since records began.
    Ocean surfaces have warmest summer on record, US report finds | Environment | guardian.co.uk
     
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    New research suggests that ocean temperature and associated sea level increases between 1961 and 2003 were 50 percent larger than estimated in the 2007 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report.

    The results are reported in the June 19 edition of the journal Nature. An international team of researchers, including Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory climate scientist Peter Gleckler, compared climate models with improved observations that show sea levels rose by 1.5 millimeters per year in the period from 1961-2003. That equates to an approximately 2½-inch increase in ocean levels in a 42-year span.
    Ocean temperatures and sea level increases 50 percent higher than earlier predictions (6/19/2008)
     
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    Published on Thursday, August 20, 2009 by Associated Press
    In Hot Water: World Sets Ocean Temperature Record
    by Seth Borenstein

    WASHINGTON &#8212; Steve Kramer spent an hour and a half swimming in the ocean Sunday &#8212; in Maine. The water temperature was 72 degrees &#8212; more like Ocean City, Md., this time of year. And Ocean City's water temp hit 88 degrees this week, toasty even by Miami Beach standards.

    Kramer, 26, who lives in the seaside town of Scarborough, said it was the first time he's ever swam so long in Maine's coastal waters. "Usually, you're in five minutes and you're out," he said.

    It's not just the ocean off the Northeast coast that is super-warm this summer. July was the hottest the world's oceans have been in almost 130 years of record-keeping.
    In Hot Water: World Sets Ocean Temperature Record | CommonDreams.org
     
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    July was the warmest the world's oceans have been in almost 130 years of record-keeping.

    The average surface water temperature worldwide was 17 C, according to the National Climatic Data Center, the branch of the U.S. government that keeps world weather records. That was 0.6 C higher than the 20th-century average, and beat the previous high set in 1998 by a couple hundredths of a degree.

    The coolest recorded global surface ocean temperature was 15.1 C in December 1909.

    Meteorologists said there's a combination of forces at work this year: A natural El Nino system just getting started on top of worsening man-made global warming, and a dash of random weather variations. The resulting ocean warmth is already harming threatened coral reefs. It could also hasten the melting of Arctic sea ice and help hurricanes strengthen.

    The Gulf of Mexico, where warm water fuels hurricanes, has temperatures dancing around 32. Most of the water in the Northern Hemisphere has been considerably warmer than normal. The Mediterranean is about three degrees warmer than normal. Higher temperatures rule in the Pacific and Indian oceans.
    CBC News - Technology & Science - Ocean surface temperature hits record high
     
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    GISS Surface Temperature Analysis
    Analysis Graphs and Plots
    Figures on this page were prepared by Dr. Makiko Sato. Please address questions about the figures to Dr. Sato or to Dr. James Hansen.

    Click on any graph to view an enlargement of the image. PDF documents require a special viewer such as the free Adobe Reader.

    What's New
    Sep. 11, 2009: NOAA NCDC provided an updated file on Sept. 9 of the GHCN data used in our analysis. The new file has increased data quality checks in the tropics. Beginning Sept. 11 the GISS analysis uses the new NOAA data set.
    Jan. 13, 2009: 2008 calendar year temperature summary was posted.
    Dec. 16, 2008: 2008 meteorological year temperature summary was posted.
    Nov. 13, 2008: NOAA corrected GHCN data for October, 2008 again (second correction). Monthly figures have been corrected (third version).
    Nov. 12, 2008: Monthly graphs and maps were created with corrected NOAA/GHCN data.
    Nov. 11, 2008: The monthly graphs and maps with yesterday's October data were removed.
    Nov. 10, 2008: Monthly graphs and maps were updated with NOAA/GHCN October data which had some problems.
    Data @ NASA GISS: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis: Graphs

    Perhaps one should look at more trustworthy sources.
     
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    Sorry Old Rocks - the data has got you on the outside looking in - and it's getting cold out there...
     

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