CO2 Experiments posted here

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http://www.usmessageboard.com/environment/355976-so-cagw-activism-isn-t-political-huh-2.html#post9144977

 

[SSDD]

So which one of those bits of side show slight of hand do you think proves your point?

 

[Mr. H.]

Hydrocarbons are awesome.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Solar in 30 years will make up at least 20% of the worlds energy needs.

 

[Mr. H.]

Solar in 30 years will make up at least 20% of the worlds energy needs.

Yet, your petrophobic tendencies persist...

 

[ScienceRocks]

Solar in 30 years will make up at least 20% of the worlds energy needs.

Yet, your petrophobic tendencies persist...

15 years ago solar made up maybe 1gw of total worldwide energy...Today it is 150gw. A mind blowing increase.

In 1983 it was 40mw.
In 1976 it was 500kw

China added 12gw last year alone
America 4gw last year alone

each year that goes up.

Solar is a fact and I don't think it is insane to think it will grow to a fifth of energy needs by 2035.

 

[mamooth]

The HITRAN database, maintained by those socialists at the US Air Force, catalogs the spectral properties all all atmospheric gases.

HITRAN on the Web

Use the "references" link to get the many papers. That is, the lab setups.

The US Air Force data says that the "trace gas" CO2 has a big effect. But what do they know? They're just trying to make missiles work with IR seeker heads. Or maybe not. The Air Force must be sabotaging their own weapons in the name of the great socialist conspiracy.

 

[Mr. H.]

Solar in 30 years will make up at least 20% of the worlds energy needs.

Yet, your petrophobic tendencies persist...

15 years ago solar made up maybe 1gw of total worldwide energy...Today it is 150gw. A mind blowing increase.

In 1983 it was 40mw.
In 1976 it was 500kw

China added 12gw last year alone
America 4gw last year alone

each year that goes up.

Solar is a fact and I don't think it is insane to think it will grow to a fifth of energy needs by 2035.

I never even intoned that you were insane. Stoopid maybe.

Despite the huge demands for all hydrocarbons that is projected along with your correctly assessed renewables supply (EIA), it is hydrocarbons that are being warred upon in this country.

There is no inherent demand for renewables, as their sole purpose is electrical genaration. They may have evolved into more than just a curious cottage industry, but the world runs on hydrocarbons and their myriad byproducts.

The petrophobes of this world are deluding themselves, Obama among them. He appears to be succeeding in wrecking the coal industry and his cross-hairs are firmly focused on oil and natural gas. In the 2-1/2 years left in his tenure I think he may very well succeed in bringing this nation to its knees.

 

[Crick]

So which one of those bits of side show slight of hand do you think proves your point?

They both prove that CO2 experiments were posted here. Thus they both prove that several deniers here lie through their teeth.

 

[Kosh]

People are never told that the most powerful greenhouse gases by orders of magnitude is water vapor and clouds. When only human emitted CO2 is considered, less than one percent of the greenhouse gas potential comes from human activity. Yet, all the global warming is supposed to be attributed to it. Water vapor plays a huge role in keeping the earth warm; 70 times more powerful than the CO2 emitted by human activity. When clouds are added, CO2 becomes even less important. However, clouds not only trap heat, low elevation clouds also reflect much of the incoming solar radiation, so the sun's heat never reaches the earth's surface which cools the earth. It is this mechanism that a growing number of scientists believe is one of the primary mechanisms warming and cooling the earth.

 

[Old Rocks]

People are never told that the most powerful greenhouse gases by orders of magnitude is water vapor and clouds. When only human emitted CO2 is considered, less than one percent of the greenhouse gas potential comes from human activity. Yet, all the global warming is supposed to be attributed to it. Water vapor plays a huge role in keeping the earth warm; 70 times more powerful than the CO2 emitted by human activity. When clouds are added, CO2 becomes even less important. However, clouds not only trap heat, low elevation clouds also reflect much of the incoming solar radiation, so the sun's heat never reaches the earth's surface which cools the earth. It is this mechanism that a growing number of scientists believe is one of the primary mechanisms warming and cooling the earth.

Well, you can lie all you want. 120 out of the 400 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere is man created. About 1100 of the 1800+ ppb of CH4 is man caused. And there has been an increase in water vapor in the atmosphere attributable to the increase in heat caused by AGW.

You are either a shill for the energy companies, or one really ignorant ass when it comes to science.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The HITRAN database, maintained by those socialists at the US Air Force, catalogs the spectral properties all all atmospheric gases.

HITRAN on the Web

Use the "references" link to get the many papers. That is, the lab setups.

The US Air Force data says that the "trace gas" CO2 has a big effect. But what do they know? They're just trying to make missiles work with IR seeker heads. Or maybe not. The Air Force must be sabotaging their own weapons in the name of the great socialist conspiracy.

^ That's not an experiment

 

[Kosh]

People are never told that the most powerful greenhouse gases by orders of magnitude is water vapor and clouds. When only human emitted CO2 is considered, less than one percent of the greenhouse gas potential comes from human activity. Yet, all the global warming is supposed to be attributed to it. Water vapor plays a huge role in keeping the earth warm; 70 times more powerful than the CO2 emitted by human activity. When clouds are added, CO2 becomes even less important. However, clouds not only trap heat, low elevation clouds also reflect much of the incoming solar radiation, so the sun's heat never reaches the earth's surface which cools the earth. It is this mechanism that a growing number of scientists believe is one of the primary mechanisms warming and cooling the earth.

Well, you can lie all you want. 120 out of the 400 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere is man created. About 1100 of the 1800+ ppb of CH4 is man caused. And there has been an increase in water vapor in the atmosphere attributable to the increase in heat caused by AGW.

You are either a shill for the energy companies, or one really ignorant ass when it comes to science.

And the AGW playbook is right on cue, based on the scriptures of the AGW cult.

The AGW cult will do anything to make their religion viable no matter how much real science they have to suppress..

The importance of water vapor and clouds can be seen in the day/night temperatures between desert cities and deep south humid cities. In this example the desert gets much hotter because their is less water vapor in the atmosphere. For the same reason, the temperature can drop as much as 45oF during the night during the summer. On the other hand, the humid city does not get as hot, but the temperature does not drop as much at night because the water vapor holds the heat. Clouds can not only hold the heat close to the earth, but during the day, much of the solar radiation reflects off of the clouds, preventing the solar energy from reaching the earth's surface to heat it. Otherwise it would become unbearably hot.

Mind you now that the AGW cult will not have any real science to back up their claims, but they will try and discredit any actual real science as long as it continues their religion..

 

[westwall]

Your first link is dead and the second is a real nice Ideal Gas Law experiment. Color me unsurprised that you clowns couldn't figure that one out.

 

[Shanty]

The HITRAN database, maintained by those socialists at the US Air Force, catalogs the spectral properties all all atmospheric gases.

HITRAN on the Web

Use the "references" link to get the many papers. That is, the lab setups.

The US Air Force data says that the "trace gas" CO2 has a big effect. But what do they know? They're just trying to make missiles work with IR seeker heads. Or maybe not. The Air Force must be sabotaging their own weapons in the name of the great socialist conspiracy.

Who says sarcasm does not translate over the net?

That was awesome!

 

[SSDD]

So which one of those bits of side show slight of hand do you think proves your point?

They both prove that CO2 experiments were posted here. Thus they both prove that several deniers here lie through their teeth.

We skeptics acknowledged that experiments were posted...we also pointed out that none actually demonstrated what you claimed that they demonstrated...so, now that we have exposed yet another lie on your part, again, which one of those bits of side show slight of hand do you claim demonstrates that 100 or even 200 ppm of additional CO2 can have a measurable effect on the climate.

 

[SSDD]

Well, you can lie all you want. 120 out of the 400 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere is man created. About 1100 of the 1800+ ppb of CH4 is man caused. And there has been an increase in water vapor in the atmosphere attributable to the increase in heat caused by AGW.

So that is a whopper.... Here is where CO2 comes from in order of production.





Man's contribution to CO2 isn't even as large as the variability in natural sources from year to year, much less enough to account for 30%. You people have let your religion get completely out of hand.

 

[Crick]

Your chart does not say what you claim it says.

That 120 of the current 400 ppm CO2 in the atmosphere comes from humans is an established fact. Feel free to deny it if you wish to continue your perfect run of fundamental science blunders.

 

[Crick]

So which one of those bits of side show slight of hand do you think proves your point?

They both prove that CO2 experiments were posted here. Thus they both prove that several deniers here lie through their teeth.

We skeptics acknowledged that experiments were posted...we also pointed out that none actually demonstrated what you claimed that they demonstrated...so, now that we have exposed yet another lie on your part, again, which one of those bits of side show slight of hand do you claim demonstrates that 100 or even 200 ppm of additional CO2 can have a measurable effect on the climate.

The video from Mythbusters very explicitly recreates actual atmospheric CO2 levels. And several deniers denied that any experiments had ever been posted.