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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbfFkoymtuU&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - EPIC MEDIA FAIL: CNN's Rick Sanchez Says States' Rights Is A Racist Term[/ame]





    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0OsfEziVyw&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Chris Matthews Attacks Debra Medina[/ame]
     
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    What a bunch of idiots.
     
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    the most "trusted" name in news.
     
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    In one part of the bottom interview Matthews said that touting states rights is not necessarily racist but it has a a stigma attatched to it. States rights gets dismissed because of a stigma I guess. :confused:
     
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    With all the talk about succession and states rights together the media has started to link them together and bring up the little disagreement we had back in 1860. Most people do not link states rights with racism but because the media is putting it out there people are starting to link them. The power of the media to influence how the public perceives ideas is something else.
     
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    States rights always meant slavery then the right to discriminate based on race, religion, whatever.
     
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    I'm no Tenther, but it's a legitimate Constitutional position rooted in the Anti-Federalism movement. I simply believe it's based on too narrow and selective a reading of the founding documents and unworkable in our system, but the idea itself is racially neutral.

    The problem is perception and the fact that the States Rights label has been used by some political tacticians and white supremacists to support racist agendas, even if the philosophy itself is not racist. Remember Atwater's infamous remarks on using "States Rights" as a more acceptable code term for "******"? These halfwits may not understand what States Rights is, what it stands for, its history or the subtleties within the movement, but they latch on to anecdotes because that's what they can understand. In that regard, Matthews was right. He worded it badly, but his analysis was correct.

    These are ignorant people who for the most part don't really understand the fundamental argument and latch on to any superficial oversimplification they can comprehend instead of doing their homework and giving the whole picture. Disgusting that these blow dried idiots are who we rely on for "news" these days, isn't it?
     
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    The way it is most often used, the term States Rights if often used as a sotto voce way of supporting racism.

    When some person starts telling you that the Civil War was fought over states rights, what they won't admit, but know perfectly well is true, is the ONLY STATE right that the rebellious states were interested in protecting was their right to allow slavery.
     
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    Ohh no there were taxes tarrifs and trade issues. the "Civil war" was not fought just for slavery.
     
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    Actually it didn't. States Rights at its foundation is a question of citizenship and sovereignty. Slavery was one issue involved, but it was far from the only one.

    A true States Righter believes we should go back to the States being sovereign and the residents being citizens of that State first, the nation second and many (but not all) desire the Federal government to be representative of the States rather then the people. The people would be represented directly at the State level only.

    All other incidents of citizenship flow from that distinction, the issues you bring up being only a small piece of the puzzle. One with potentially large consequences if a State should go bad, but still not the largest issue by any means.

    I submit this approach was tried and failed, miserably. The nation is simply too large and diverse to hold together fifty dogs on almost unlimited leashes all pulling one human in different directions. But the concept is more, much more, than slavery or discrimination.
     
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