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That was one of the most pathetic fucking things I've seen in my life.

That was a huge joke to me since all of those traders don't mind seeing the businesses on Wall Street get a bailout.

Course not, the money isn't going in their fucking pockets eventually, why should they care? I fucking dare you any of you to try that shit when Wall Street was begging for a bailout. They'd probably would of thrown your ass out in the first minute.

Fucking hypocrites galore.




my second moment of bliss today,, seeing the rabid democrat robertos,, getting pissed... :lol:

No kidding... I love it too. Things are just starting to brew. Nothing has imploded yet. Wait until it does. We'll laugh even harder then when they try and lie their way out of that... :lol:
 
No kidding... I love it too. Things are just starting to brew. Nothing has imploded yet. Wait until it does. We'll laugh even harder then when they try and lie their way out of that... :lol:

Yes, I'm sure you're quite ready for the second Civil War. :eusa_whistle:
 
And what is also ignored by those who oppose a reduced tax rate burden is the equitable impact this has on the lowest wage earners.

Following the Reagan tax cuts, the tax burden as a percentage of total tax revenue increased by just over 40% for the top 5th wage earners. The bottom 5th wage earners saw their tax burden decrease by 12%. The middle class had a marginal increase of tax burden increase by about 4%.

High taxes hurt the lower classes the most - by greatly reducing opportunity in the form of reduced job growth and tax revenues to support essential assistance programs.

CNBC Rick was speaking to this moral deficiency regarding increased government spending and an increasingly cumbersome tax burden.

May his message ring out loud and proud during the next 48 hour news cycle.
 
I think eliminating the capital gains tax is a great idea.

Then I would raise the tax on income over $250,000 a year to balance it out.

Well we all thank our personal gods you aren't in charge, chrissy.
 
you already are, genii,

if the house next to yours goes into foreclosure, the value of YOUR home drops.

if the house next door to yours is foreclosed and remains vacant, it is a magnet for vagrants and thieves.

if the home next to yours is vacant and not cared for, no one is buying your home.

damn, you so don't get it.
 
you already are, genii,

if the house next to yours goes into foreclosure, the value of YOUR home drops.

if the house next door to yours is foreclosed and remains vacant, it is a magnet for vagrants and thieves.

if the home next to yours is vacant and not cared for, no one is buying your home.

damn, you so don't get it.

Why does said genii have to pay for both, but doesn't get to own both ? ;)
 
How do YOU feel about paying for people who never should have been given a mortgage? BTW, 91% of mortgages are being paid on time. But Obama's plan is to bail out the people who still can't pay or can't afford their homes.

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These folks are just pissed off losers. They thought they were the masters of the universe and now that their shinanigans have brought the house crashing down, they need some on to blame beside themself.

What kind of real work is this anyway? They are middle men/women who add no value to the end product.
 
Good, let's get it on. If we continue on this Weimar style type of govt, nationalizing everything, breaking the dollar, spending out of control, we'll be toast real soon.
 
Jim Cramer's response

Sure, the rich traders on the floor of the Chicago options exchange, the crowd cheering when CNBC's Rick Santelli went berserk this morning, are thrilled at the concept of ending the endless bailouts and letting the chips fall. Sure they want it to end. It raises taxes. It bails out the profligate. It is UNAMERICAN. It makes us lazy and stupid and unfair. Let everything fail. That's their attitude.

And I hate them for it. Look at what happened when we went with their course of action with Lehman Brothers. Look what happened. The world ended. We were so worried about moral hazard in helping out the "bad" guys that we forgot the hundreds of millions of people who were hurt by the Chicago trader method. We wrecked out system of finance. We have not recovered. We have resorted to having to cut principal to get out of the housing issue (as an alternative, check out my plan). We have had to try to stabilize a teetering banking system that would most surely collapse if these traders had their way, taking us through a moment that would be much worse than the Great Depression.

Which leads me to some sobering truths. The Chicago traders are worried about bailing out Citigroup (C - commentary - Cramer's Take) and Bank of America (BAC - commentary - Cramer's Take). They are worried about propping up the system. They want the chips to fall.

I am a student of history. Have they read any history? Have they? What do they think caused the Great Depression? How about an attitude just like theirs? Maybe they are all about betting the system is stronger this time. In this country, the Great Depression led to jobless, but the center did hold.

It did not hold in Europe. In the 1930s, Hitler came to power in part because of the total collapse of the financial system in Germany. He offered a way out. It was loved by the people. He was democratically elected.

The social unrest solidified the hold of Stalin and gave communism the boost it needed to take over a substantial part of the world.

This wasn't about whether the equivalent of Citigroup went to zero. It wasn't about the moral hazard.

It was about the real hazard: revolutions, genocide, social upheaval that obliterated the lives of millions. Fascism. In fact, I wish the ECB, which has been the worst (and the most Chicago-style) cared more about the rise of fascism than it does Weimar. Notice that when Germany said something about the need to be forceful in combating the problems, the euro went up and the dollar down. One of the reasons for the dramatic increase in gold is a fear that the euro could collapse from the lack of help by the ECB.

Ask yourself: Do you care about two or three trillion dollars being printed -- and it isn't all that inflationary considering the push downward from deflation -- if we avoid another World War II and the devastation leading up to it. ...

I hate to invoke class warfare. But for someone who was poor and lived in my car, I just feel different from these traders who, with their arrogance, just can wreck the social fabric of the country and the world. I think the bottom like on the Chicago approach is simple: the trains would run on time. ...

The world is not prepared for those defaults, because, once again, you are simply begging for a Great Depression.

http://jimcramer.rmblogs.thestreet.com/entry.aspx?q=75bed4e4-21b0-4492-8f20-9bb500da0c5e
 
You don't mind paying for the war in Iraq. costs more than the houses and we can't live there.

Short sighte little people who bite off their own nose to spite their face and prove their point.
 
I guess the fact that these people will still be paying their mortgages doesn't count.

they aren't getting the mortgages paide for them.
 
I guess the fact that these people will still be paying their mortgages doesn't count.

they aren't getting the mortgages paide for them.

true they will be paying a portion of their mortgage.....the difference between what they can afford and what the loan payments are will be picked up by the government....
 
Good, let's get it on. If we continue on this Weimar style type of govt, nationalizing everything, breaking the dollar, spending out of control, we'll be toast real soon.


Agree. If one needed any more of an indicaton that the Obama Stimulus Bill is based on ideology and not economics, consider today an informal vote on the floor of the Chicago Exchange.
 
How do YOU feel about paying for people who never should have been given a mortgage? BTW, 91% of mortgages are being paid on time. But Obama's plan is to bail out the people who still can't pay or can't afford their homes.

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3rd thread on this today. And where do you get that 91% from?

And I suppose you to fail to take into account the amount of people who already lost their homes. :eusa_whistle:
 

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