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Lying about what?
And how, exactly, will we be "broke". We control the minting of our money. So you go ahead and explain how a nation with an economy of 14 trillion a year..will be broke.
And what are you talking about? Cutting spending..is cutting jobs, ace. If you fire teachers, firefighters and police..they will be..guess what? Unemployed. Same with if you fire people in the private sector who's jobs depend on public spending.
medicare is not going to be destroyed, the safety net remains.
debt = 95% of gdp. Printing money just means you have more money, it does not mean it's worth more.
Having more money in the private sector = jobs in the private sector. less jobs in government means less money is needed to be taxed. That = we have more money to spend = job creation = equals more people to be taxed = less tax burden for all = we have more money to spend = job creation = so on and so forth.
What lie? Not sure what you are getting at about Medicare. The Republicans were running on the fact that the Obama administration was "cutting" 500 billion from Medicare. Well the cuts were to be found by reducing fraud, redundancy and waste. Something Conservatives use to support. But the Ryan plan sought to make it into a "voucher" program..which it is not. And even he said it was a part of a move to privatize the whole thing. Effectively destroying it.
And really..think about what Medicare does. It take care of old people. It's a demographic the HMOs want no part of. And going back to the day prior to Medicare..the Middle Class and the poor were dying earlier and in a great deal more pain..then their rich counter parts. I don't know about you..but I don't think wealth should be a big factor in life expendancy.
And your "money in the private sector" equation is total bullshit. There are oceans of liquidity in the private sector as we speak...and NO JOBS.
Americans for Prosperity is sending absentee ballots to Democrats in at least two Wisconsin state Senate recall districts with instructions to return the paperwork after the election date.
The fliers, obtained by POLITICO, ask solidly Democratic voters to return ballots for the Aug. 9 election to the city clerk "before Aug. 11."
A Democrat on the ground in Wisconsin said the fliers were discovered to be hitting doors in District 2 and District 10 over the weekend.
AFP Wisconsin ballots have late return date
And what address do the cheating GOPers put on the ballot request form? Not the address for the Elections Office, but a PO Box registered to the PAC.
Seriously, why do they have to cheat?
Now THIS might be cheating:
Group using free food to win votes? - 620 WTMJ - Milwaukee's Source for Local News and Weather
lol...and none of us are sitting around talking about how either/both parties are aware that 500 billion in fraud and waste exists but it must take other "more serious legislation" to do something about it?
None of you can defend this.
Why did you waste so many posts trying?
B/c we wanted facts.
And the facts show that the demwits claim is a lie.
How can you defend such a lie w/o knowing the facts?
It is the dimwits you are talking about, as usual they are the ones that cheat on elections. For example, again, al 'I am stupid' Franken in Minn. More votes in numerous counties than registered voters. Don't forget obamaturd, not sure where he was born, if he was born in Kenya, that makes him ineligible. But you dimwits support them, idiots. Also, if the story is true, big if, then the republicans ought to be accountable also. Wrong is wrong, I just get tired of dimwits protecting there wrongdoings ALL THE TIME!!!!there you have it.
They attacked ACORN with a DOJ that was packed with partisans so that they could stop an organization that was helping poor people vote and have a boogey man to throw arround when they get caught cheating.
The Republican party has cheated in elections for decades now and its in the court records.
The vast majority of Americans dont know that history.
They do know about the FAKED hit job on ACORN.
then these creeps try to claim we have a liberal media.
If we had a liberal media no republican would ever get elected again merely on the facts.
Now THIS might be cheating:
Group using free food to win votes? - 620 WTMJ - Milwaukee's Source for Local News and Weather
Liberals will do anything.. lie, cheat, steal, to win an election. This doesn't really surprise me that much.
Now THIS might be cheating:
Group using free food to win votes? - 620 WTMJ - Milwaukee's Source for Local News and Weather
Liberals will do anything.. lie, cheat, steal, to win an election. This doesn't really surprise me that much.
Somehow it's different....
It just is...
Lying about what?
And how, exactly, will we be "broke". We control the minting of our money. So you go ahead and explain how a nation with an economy of 14 trillion a year..will be broke.
And what are you talking about? Cutting spending..is cutting jobs, ace. If you fire teachers, firefighters and police..they will be..guess what? Unemployed. Same with if you fire people in the private sector who's jobs depend on public spending.
medicare is not going to be destroyed, the safety net remains.
debt = 95% of gdp. Printing money just means you have more money, it does not mean it's worth more.
Having more money in the private sector = jobs in the private sector. less jobs in government means less money is needed to be taxed. That = we have more money to spend = job creation = equals more people to be taxed = less tax burden for all = we have more money to spend = job creation = so on and so forth.
What lie? Not sure what you are getting at about Medicare. The Republicans were running on the fact that the Obama administration was "cutting" 500 billion from Medicare. Well the cuts were to be found by reducing fraud, redundancy and waste. Something Conservatives use to support. But the Ryan plan sought to make it into a "voucher" program..which it is not. And even he said it was a part of a move to privatize the whole thing. Effectively destroying it.
And really..think about what Medicare does. It takes care of old people. It's a demographic the HMOs want no part of. And going back to the days prior to Medicare..the Middle Class and the poor were dying earlier and in a great deal more pain..then their rich counter parts. I don't know about you..but I don't think wealth should be a big factor in life expendancy.
And your "money in the private sector" equation is total bullshit. There are oceans of liquidity in the private sector as we speak...and NO JOBS.
Isn't it about time for some Rightie poster to say that Obama once said there were 57 states?
Actually you are defending lying.
Where's the proof? If they have found 2, and it's been reported, there should be a pic of it to support the claim.
Since there's not, it's all a lie. That you are trying to spred.
So, Why are YOU lying and cheating by spreading lies?
This would be the second instance of cheating by the GOP. The first was when they sent Republicans to run in the Democratic primary.
Except that wasn't cheating...
Americans for Prosperity is sending absentee ballots to Democrats in at least two Wisconsin state Senate recall districts with instructions to return the paperwork after the election date.
The fliers, obtained by POLITICO, ask solidly Democratic voters to return ballots for the Aug. 9 election to the city clerk "before Aug. 11."
A Democrat on the ground in Wisconsin said the fliers were discovered to be hitting doors in District 2 and District 10 over the weekend.
AFP Wisconsin ballots have late return date
And what address do the cheating GOPers put on the ballot request form? Not the address for the Elections Office, but a PO Box registered to the PAC.
Seriously, why do they have to cheat?
there you have it.
They attacked ACORN with a DOJ that was packed with partisans so that they could stop an organization that was helping poor people vote and have a boogey man to throw arround when they get caught cheating.
The Republican party has cheated in elections for decades now and its in the court records.
The vast majority of Americans dont know that history.
They do know about the FAKED hit job on ACORN.
then these creeps try to claim we have a liberal media.
If we had a liberal media no republican would ever get elected again merely on the facts.
I find it hysterical that only two Democrats discovered it. Basic IQ test fail.I wonder if the liberals realize that a PAC sending out absentee ballot flyers is legal?
Or, that a typo explains the Aug 11 date?
Of course not.
It's much simpler (which fits them) to think VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY.
Seriously...This would be the second instance of cheating by the GOP. The first was when they sent Republicans to run in the Democratic primary.
Except that wasn't cheating...
Seriously?
Does there need to be a law about every form of bad behavior?
Get back to me when you hold your party to ethics and personal responsibility...What the heck happened to ethics and personal responsibility?
AFP says misleading ballots were a mistake
The conservative third party group Americans for Prosperity said absentee ballots sent to Wisconsin voters this weekend with the wrong election date was the result of a "printing mistake."
"The date on the ballot application was meant solely for the elections held on August 16th. Due to a mistake during printing, all applications were sent out with the August 11th date," said AFP-Wisconsin state director Matt Seaholm. Americans for Prosperity-Wisconsin did not intend to print the incorrect absentee deadline or confuse voters in any way."
POLITICO first reported Monday that AFP had sent ballots to solidly Democratic voters in two state Senate recall districts, instructing them to return the paperwork by Aug. 11 -- two days after the Aug. 9 election date.
The Wisconsin Democratic Party has already filed a formal complaint with the state's Government Accountability Board. The Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee is also calling for an investigation.
Seaholm said AFP-Wisconsin is addressing the mistake by sending out a call "to each and every individual on the mailing list to clarify the date of the elections."
