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Let me spend a few moments explaining to liberals what is obvious to millions of Trump supporters.

For over 200 years our country has welcomed immigrants of all kinds (setting aside slavery), and immigrants have been flooding here because we are the #1 country in the world.

Trump and his base are really saying they want to put an end to immigration as we have known it for 200 years; a complete overhaul to the immigration policy, make immigration available only to a select group of qualified people. Going forward think of the USA as an exclusive country club, where people are automatically accepted if their parents are members, otherwise the bar is set very high for anyone wanting to join Club USA.

Another way of explaining it. The USA is like an ivy league university (Yale, Stanford,etc), but the bar for entry is low like a community college that accepts everybody. Trump is proposing indirectly that because the USA is in the IVY league of countries (#1), the bar for acceptance should only be ivy league people from other countries, and reject everybody who is below a very high bar.

Yes, this means rejecting people of low income, minorities, refugees, and religions. Trump and his base don't believe diversity is healthy, they believe just the opposite, that diversity is harmful to the country, therefore overhauling immigration policy should also not promote diversity.

Why is this good or bad?
 
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Yes, this means rejecting people of low income, minorities, refugees, and religions. Trump and his base don't believe diversity is healthy, they believe just the opposite, that diversity is harmful to the country, therefore overhauling immigration policy should also not promote diversity.

Throw some mud in your coffee and stir it up well. That's the diversity you seek.
 
Let me spend a few moments explaining to liberals what is obvious to millions of Trump supporters.

For over 200 years our country has welcomed immigrants of all kinds (setting aside slavery), and immigrants have been flooding here because we are the #1 country in the world.

Trump and his base are really saying they want to put an end to immigration as we have known it for 200 years; a complete overhaul to the immigration policy, make immigration available only to a select group of qualified people. Going forward think of the USA as an exclusive country club, where people are automatically accepted if their parents are members, otherwise the bar is set very high for anyone wanting to join Club USA.

Another way of explaining it. The USA is like an ivy league university (Yale, Stanford,etc), but the bar for entry is low like a community college that accepts everybody. Trump is proposing indirectly that because the USA is in the IVY league of countries (#1), the bar for acceptance should only be ivy league people from other countries, and reject everybody who is below a very high bar.

Yes, this means rejecting people of low income, minorities, refugees, and religions. Trump and his base don't believe diversity is healthy, they believe just the opposite, that diversity is harmful to the country, therefore overhauling immigration policy should also not promote diversity.

Why is this good or bad?
I think your entire post is irrelevant simply because you have little to no idea what Trump, or his base want. You are seriously out of touch and dead wrong. Furthermore, I would mount an attempt at educating you, however, with the internet available, and your obvious unwillingness to use it, any attempt at enlightening you seems like a futile effort. Try getting off the liberal sites and diving into unfamiliar territory. That is how one gains understanding of something they are unfamiliar with.
 
Let me spend a few moments explaining to liberals what is obvious to millions of Trump supporters.

For over 200 years our country has welcomed immigrants of all kinds (setting aside slavery), and immigrants have been flooding here because we are the #1 country in the world.

Trump and his base are really saying they want to put an end to immigration as we have known it for 200 years; a complete overhaul to the immigration policy, make immigration available only to a select group of qualified people. Going forward think of the USA as an exclusive country club, where people are automatically accepted if their parents are members, otherwise the bar is set very high for anyone wanting to join Club USA.

Another way of explaining it. The USA is like an ivy league university (Yale, Stanford,etc), but the bar for entry is low like a community college that accepts everybody. Trump is proposing indirectly that because the USA is in the IVY league of countries (#1), the bar for acceptance should only be ivy league people from other countries, and reject everybody who is below a very high bar.

Yes, this means rejecting people of low income, minorities, refugees, and religions. Trump and his base don't believe diversity is healthy, they believe just the opposite, that diversity is harmful to the country, therefore overhauling immigration policy should also not promote diversity.

Why is this good or bad?
I think your entire post is irrelevant simply because you have little to no idea what Trump, or his base want. You are seriously out of touch and dead wrong. Furthermore, I would mount an attempt at educating you, however, with the internet available, and your obvious unwillingness to use it, any attempt at enlightening you seems like a futile effort. Try getting off the liberal sites and diving into unfamiliar territory. That is how one gains understanding of something they are unfamiliar with.


You're not stating what you believe, or providing any counter argument or facts for others to consider.

Trump wants to change the immigration paradigm as I described so that only a select group of highly qualified people are invited to come to the USA as immigrants. Others, who are less qualified can immigrate to other countries who have lower Trump standard. Qualifications, are what Donald Trump decides based on feedback from his base.
 
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Let me spend a few moments explaining to liberals what is obvious to millions of Trump supporters.

For over 200 years our country has welcomed immigrants of all kinds (setting aside slavery), and immigrants have been flooding here because we are the #1 country in the world.

Trump and his base are really saying they want to put an end to immigration as we have known it for 200 years; a complete overhaul to the immigration policy, make immigration available only to a select group of qualified people. Going forward think of the USA as an exclusive country club, where people are automatically accepted if their parents are members, otherwise the bar is set very high for anyone wanting to join Club USA.

Another way of explaining it. The USA is like an ivy league university (Yale, Stanford,etc), but the bar for entry is low like a community college that accepts everybody. Trump is proposing indirectly that because the USA is in the IVY league of countries (#1), the bar for acceptance should only be ivy league people from other countries, and reject everybody who is below a very high bar.

Yes, this means rejecting people of low income, minorities, refugees, and religions. Trump and his base don't believe diversity is healthy, they believe just the opposite, that diversity is harmful to the country, therefore overhauling immigration policy should also not promote diversity.

Why is this good or bad?
And we take turns doing the manual labor the immigrants used to do..
 
Let me spend a few moments explaining to liberals what is obvious to millions of Trump supporters.

For over 200 years our country has welcomed immigrants of all kinds (setting aside slavery), and immigrants have been flooding here because we are the #1 country in the world.

Trump and his base are really saying they want to put an end to immigration as we have known it for 200 years; a complete overhaul to the immigration policy, make immigration available only to a select group of qualified people. Going forward think of the USA as an exclusive country club, where people are automatically accepted if their parents are members, otherwise the bar is set very high for anyone wanting to join Club USA.

Another way of explaining it. The USA is like an ivy league university (Yale, Stanford,etc), but the bar for entry is low like a community college that accepts everybody. Trump is proposing indirectly that because the USA is in the IVY league of countries (#1), the bar for acceptance should only be ivy league people from other countries, and reject everybody who is below a very high bar.

Yes, this means rejecting people of low income, minorities, refugees, and religions. Trump and his base don't believe diversity is healthy, they believe just the opposite, that diversity is harmful to the country, therefore overhauling immigration policy should also not promote diversity.

Why is this good or bad?
And we take turns doing the manual labor the immigrants used to do..

According Donald Trump, that be would democrats fault.
 
Let me spend a few moments explaining to liberals what is obvious to millions of Trump supporters.

For over 200 years our country has welcomed immigrants of all kinds (setting aside slavery), and immigrants have been flooding here because we are the #1 country in the world.

Trump and his base are really saying they want to put an end to immigration as we have known it for 200 years; a complete overhaul to the immigration policy, make immigration available only to a select group of qualified people. Going forward think of the USA as an exclusive country club, where people are automatically accepted if their parents are members, otherwise the bar is set very high for anyone wanting to join Club USA.

Another way of explaining it. The USA is like an ivy league university (Yale, Stanford,etc), but the bar for entry is low like a community college that accepts everybody. Trump is proposing indirectly that because the USA is in the IVY league of countries (#1), the bar for acceptance should only be ivy league people from other countries, and reject everybody who is below a very high bar.

Yes, this means rejecting people of low income, minorities, refugees, and religions. Trump and his base don't believe diversity is healthy, they believe just the opposite, that diversity is harmful to the country, therefore overhauling immigration policy should also not promote diversity.

Why is this good or bad?
And we take turns doing the manual labor the immigrants used to do..

According Donald Trump, that be would democrats fault.
It always is..
 
Let me spend a few moments explaining to liberals what is obvious to millions of Trump supporters.

For over 200 years our country has welcomed immigrants of all kinds (setting aside slavery), and immigrants have been flooding here because we are the #1 country in the world.

Trump and his base are really saying they want to put an end to immigration as we have known it for 200 years; a complete overhaul to the immigration policy, make immigration available only to a select group of qualified people. Going forward think of the USA as an exclusive country club, where people are automatically accepted if their parents are members, otherwise the bar is set very high for anyone wanting to join Club USA.

Another way of explaining it. The USA is like an ivy league university (Yale, Stanford,etc), but the bar for entry is low like a community college that accepts everybody. Trump is proposing indirectly that because the USA is in the IVY league of countries (#1), the bar for acceptance should only be ivy league people from other countries, and reject everybody who is below a very high bar.

Yes, this means rejecting people of low income, minorities, refugees, and religions. Trump and his base don't believe diversity is healthy, they believe just the opposite, that diversity is harmful to the country, therefore overhauling immigration policy should also not promote diversity.

Why is this good or bad?
I think your entire post is irrelevant simply because you have little to no idea what Trump, or his base want. You are seriously out of touch and dead wrong. Furthermore, I would mount an attempt at educating you, however, with the internet available, and your obvious unwillingness to use it, any attempt at enlightening you seems like a futile effort. Try getting off the liberal sites and diving into unfamiliar territory. That is how one gains understanding of something they are unfamiliar with.


You're not stating what you believe, or providing any counter argument or facts for others to consider.

Trump wants to change the immigration paradigm as I described so that only a select group of highly qualified people are invited to come to the USA as immigrants. Others, who are less qualified can immigrate to other countries who have lower Trump standard. Qualifications, are what Donald Trump decides based on feedback from his base.
Have you bothered to read the immigrant policies of different countries and then compared them to our own? Nope.
Until then...go educate yourself.
 
The requirements for an Australia Skilled Visa are as follows:

  • Age - you must be under 45 when you apply;
  • English language - you should have sufficient ability in the English language to work in Australia (at least at a competent level);
  • Nominated occupation - when you apply you nominate a skilled occupation, which fits your skills and qualifications. This occupation must be found on the Medium and Long-term Strategic Skills List;
  • Skills assessment - before you apply, you must have your skills assessed by the Australian assessing authority designated to assess your nominated occupation (which will usually have specific qualifications requirements);
  • Health assessment - you should be of reasonably good health and all applicants must have their health assessed by a panel doctor and undergo a medical examination; and
  • Character assessment - you should be of good character and this too will be assessed.
  • ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Spain
    • You may not be illegally in Spain. This is a bit moot, because this resident status is intendent for those who do not live in Spain yet.
    • You may not have a criminal record in Spain or in any other countries where you have resided for the past five years, for behaviours punished as crimes by Spanish legislation. That is, Spain allows you in if you have been convicted abroad of issues that are not crimes in Spain.
    • You may not be banned from Spain, or from certain other countries which have concluded an international treaty with Spain in that respect. For instance, if you are banned from Australia on grounds of reasonable suspiction of being a mafia leader, and Spain and Australia are parties to an international convention about this, you canot seek this status.
    • You must have sufficient economic means for you and, if need be, for your family members. "Sufficient economic means" is standarised as 2,130.04 € per month, plus 532.21 € per month for each family member.
    • You must have healthcare coverage in Spain, be it through the public system or by means of a private policy. Most likely the latter.
    • If, in the past, you have voluntary agreed to return to your country of origin and not to come back to Spain for a period of time, this compromise must have expired. This stems from certain official programmes that, in the wake of recession, promote the return of immigrants to their own countries.
    • You may not have any illness of those listed as particularly serious by the World Health Organisation in their International Health Regulations of 2005.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  • Mexico
  • To apply for and be granted a permanent resident visa, the applicants must:
    • have certain close family connections in Mexico, or
    • apply for retirement status and prove they have sufficient monthly income (or substantial assets) to support themselves, or
    • have 4 consecutive years of regular status as Temporary Resident, or
    • have 2 consecutive years of regular status as Temporary Resident where that Temporary Visa was issued through marriage to a Mexican National or a foreign permanent resident, or
    • meet a minimum score under the Points System*, or
    • be granted residency on humanitarian grounds or through political asylum.
    If your goal is to seek long-term residency in Mexico, or to become a Mexican
 
Have you bothered to read the immigrant policies of different countries and then compared them to our own? Nope.
Until then...go educate yourself.

Thanks for info.

So you agree we should have the highest qualifications in the world, being #1. Thus ideally, like ivy league universities, the US should only accept 5 out very 100 people. Keep the bar extreme high so only the best of the best can come the US.
 
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Let me spend a few moments explaining to liberals what is obvious to millions of Trump supporters.

For over 200 years our country has welcomed immigrants of all kinds (setting aside slavery), and immigrants have been flooding here because we are the #1 country in the world.

Trump and his base are really saying they want to put an end to immigration as we have known it for 200 years; a complete overhaul to the immigration policy, make immigration available only to a select group of qualified people. Going forward think of the USA as an exclusive country club, where people are automatically accepted if their parents are members, otherwise the bar is set very high for anyone wanting to join Club USA.

Another way of explaining it. The USA is like an ivy league university (Yale, Stanford,etc), but the bar for entry is low like a community college that accepts everybody. Trump is proposing indirectly that because the USA is in the IVY league of countries (#1), the bar for acceptance should only be ivy league people from other countries, and reject everybody who is below a very high bar.

Yes, this means rejecting people of low income, minorities, refugees, and religions. Trump and his base don't believe diversity is healthy, they believe just the opposite, that diversity is harmful to the country, therefore overhauling immigration policy should also not promote diversity.

Why is this good or bad?
And we take turns doing the manual labor the immigrants used to do..

According Donald Trump, that be would democrats fault.
It always is..
and always will be.
 
Have you bothered to read the immigrant policies of different countries and then compared them to our own? Nope.
Until then...go educate yourself.

Thanks for info.

So you agree we should have the highest qualifications in the world, being #1. Thus ideally, like ivy league universities, we should only accept 5 out very 100 people. Keep the bar extreme high so only the best of the best can come the US.
So...you want to accept the lowest of the low? No jobs. No money to support themselves. No skills. Bad health. Criminals from the country they are from?
Will you hire a roofer to do your house that is sick, poor and has no knowledge of roof repair or are you going to hire the best?

Think hard before answering.
 
Have you bothered to read the immigrant policies of different countries and then compared them to our own? Nope.
Until then...go educate yourself.

Thanks for info.

So you agree we should have the highest qualifications in the world, being #1. Thus ideally, like ivy league universities, we should only accept 5 out very 100 people. Keep the bar extreme high so only the best of the best can come the US.
So...you want to accept the lowest of the low? No jobs. No money to support themselves. No skills. Bad health. Criminals from the country they are from?
Will you hire a roofer to do your house that is sick, poor and has no knowledge of roof repair or are you going to hire the best?

Think hard before answering.

I think we should only accept the best of the best. Have the highest migration standards in the world. Let other countries take what we don't find acceptable. We should only take the top 5% of those who want immigrate to the US.

If we accept roofers, then they should be world's finest.
 
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The OP reveals a complete lack of understanding of the depth of unAmerican values displayed by Trump and his followers.
 
The OP reveals a complete lack of understanding of the depth of unAmerican values displayed by Trump and his followers.

I think the reality is about 30% of the US population has below normal empathy, so they will be further away from the center on most issues relating to humane treatment of people. Donald Trump is clearly narcissistic and pathological, so that 30% that have below normal empathy will identify with him; he reflects an extreme version of themselves, personal qualities they connect with and value. When they hear those recordings of sobbing babies\children, they don't feel anything negative about the circumstances of what it must be like for both parents and children who being separated by force not knowing, when, or even if, they will see each other again. For that 30%, the idea of giving the children strong prescription sedatives 24x7 is a much better solution than attempting to keep families together. For that 30%, empathy is something hard to understand and often considered a weakness. That is who they are, and who they will always be.
 
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That 30% of the nation that supports Trump manifests a type of social deficiency that becomes very apparent when it becomes emotionally stressed.

Immigration issues are always a trigger for that group.
 
We already have hundreds of years of evidence of mass uncontrolled immigration being bad for the country, the native, and the immigrants. We also have more evidence that restricting immigration from 1920 to 1965 not only didn't hurt us, but helped produce the largest middle class in our history, and the history of the planet, with peace time productivity skyrocketing like no other period in our history right up to the 'oil crisis' and the hoaxes and scams that loot the economy to this day. We fought a major world war, across the globe, on multiple fronts, and supplied major allies to boot on top of our own expanded military without mass immigration for the 22 year preceding the war.

What is obvious is we need to get back to 1970's population levels, dump these crooked fake 'trade' deals that are nothing but tax fraud, labor racketeering, and corporate welfare scams, and in the mean time just ignore the whining and sniveling of minor and transient inconveniences suffered by little crybaby Burb Brats and Wall Street faggots.
 
I am seeing a lot of jabberwocky regarding immigration......most do not even know about the radical immigration policy of 1965 which is a big part of the mess we are in today in regards to immigration....as in even our legal immigration policy is screwed up thanx to the LBJ immigration law....not even to mention all the illegal immigrants pouring in.

What the new Immigration policy that was begun in 1965 thanx to LBJ and the usual suspects is that it changed big time who we give preferance to in regards to legal immigration....LBJ changed it to giving preferance to 3rd world country immigrants....in other words we switched from favoring European immigrants.....you know the folks who look like us, who have a similar morals, religious background, who were educated with skills that America needed ....to.....3rd world immigrants from places like Africa and muslim countries. Aka....people with no skills, education, or anything to contribute to America not even to mention an alien religion and basically they do not really want to be Americans...they come here to milk the cash cow and send every dime they can back to their relatives and some of them constantly come and go (muslims) with all the problems of today associated with that...ya know go back to the ole country get some military training and radical hate America doctrine and transpose into jihadists ---if not them their children.

The Immigration Act of 1965, 50 Years Later - The Atlantic

What Trump is really trying to do is to preserve and promote the America we all once new and loved which in a nutshell has been contaminated by diversity and multiculturalism.....aka the b.s. liberals are devoted to because they basically hate America and Americans --being saturated with white guilt and a inherent need to feel morally superior....idiotically believing that promoting minorities makes them superior to other white folk whom they constantly attempt to demonize by calling them racist.

Problems of the Second Generation: To be Young, Muslim, and American

This is not rocket science folks....just basic common sense...aka take care of your own which means charity begins at home. Our immigration policy needs to be changed back to the way it was before 1965....aka.....to favor European immigrants. If we cannot understand that...if we are not willing to do that.....then we await 3rd world status.
 
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What do other developed nations do, and have been doing for many, many decades?
 

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