Cloward And Piven, the collapse of the welfare system and what you need to know.

So?
Do you quote Ann Raynd too?
Such stupidity.
I assume you are , or will be sucking off your commie VA SS Medicare?
If we didn't spend 1/2 our discretionary $ on the military maybe we would have a decent health care system.
And ever heard of the SAnd P 500?
Most educated nations are a mixture darlin.
Do I have to list roads, police etc?
You are one incredibly misguided individual if you believe we don't have the right bitch about an unconstitutional ponzi scheme if we rightfully take action to recoup money we were forced to pay (receive the benefit). That is a moronic argument reserved for people who cannot think on their own. You're not one of those people, are you?

The VA is a military benefit that serves as payment or restoration for armed forces individuals. It's not a birth-right entitlement. We should take care of our service members, especially those we sent to war.

Nice foul mouth.
Dead giveaway for zero college.just can't resist 2 nd grade insults
I thought you were so righteous and principled you wouldn't take it?
And VA?
Looks like an entitlement to me.
As the old joke goes
"If you are not smart enough to get a real job, join the military. Indoctrination only second to religion and great socialist benefits"
 
Who is Ann Raynd?
He means Ayn Rand.

The idiotic parrot argument from the communist left is that she was a hypocrite because she criticized SS, but collected her payments.

She was forced to pay into that ponzi scheme. She should be allowed to bitch about it and still recoup some (very little) of the money she was forced to pay effectively by gunpoint.

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I thought this was the right wing argument.
I thought she was for the good ol USA argument
"I've got mine, screw the rest?"
As a drug millionaire I've faithfully followed her creed
Which country again adopted her theories?
Zero?
 
So?
Do you quote Ann Raynd too?
Such stupidity.
I assume you are , or will be sucking off your commie VA SS Medicare?
If we didn't spend 1/2 our discretionary $ on the military maybe we would have a decent health care system.
And ever heard of the SAnd P 500?
Most educated nations are a mixture darlin.
Do I have to list roads, police etc?
You are one incredibly misguided individual if you believe we don't have the right bitch about an unconstitutional ponzi scheme if we rightfully take action to recoup money we were forced to pay (receive the benefit). That is a moronic argument reserved for people who cannot think on their own. You're not one of those people, are you?

The VA is a military benefit that serves as payment or restoration for armed forces individuals. It's not a birth-right entitlement. We should take care of our service members, especially those we sent to war.
She was a right bitch?
Any idea what % have battled Isis hand to hand?
 
The communist are so strong you might as well just surrender...Damn those rich American communist in government.
 
So?
Do you quote Ann Raynd too?
Such stupidity.
I assume you are , or will be sucking off your commie VA SS Medicare?
If we didn't spend 1/2 our discretionary $ on the military maybe we would have a decent health care system.
And ever heard of the SAnd P 500?
Most educated nations are a mixture darlin.
Do I have to list roads, police etc?
You are one incredibly misguided individual if you believe we don't have the right bitch about an unconstitutional ponzi scheme if we rightfully take action to recoup money we were forced to pay (receive the benefit). That is a moronic argument reserved for people who cannot think on their own. You're not one of those people, are you?

The VA is a military benefit that serves as payment or restoration for armed forces individuals. It's not a birth-right entitlement. We should take care of our service members, especially those we sent to war.[/
We keep hearing from the left that we need to keep our borders open because we should allow diseased illegal aliens and their sick children access to our healthcare system and We the People are supposed to pay for it. We have Anchor babies and DACA using up precious resources of education that could go to poor neighborhoods bringing up those US kids in need of a proper education. Just recently Joe "the Groper" Biden had said that we need to pay for healthcare even for the illegal aliens. This is what Cloward and Piven agenda is all about. The ignorant, uninformed, low intelligent people on the left dont realize that when the country goes bankrupt, there isnt any food, energy or water except for the elites. They will starve and then the Communists will come in and take everyone's rights away.

OUTRAGE: Joe Biden Argues Americans MUST Pay To Provide Healthcare For ILLEGAL ALIENS

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual ...
Cloward–Piven strategy - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward_and_Piven
Cloward-Piven.jpg
So?
Do you quote Ann Raynd too?
Such stupidity.
I assume you are , or will be sucking off your commie VA SS Medicare?
If we didn't spend 1/2 our discretionary $ on the military maybe we would have a decent health care system.
And ever heard of the SAnd P 500?
Most educated nations are a mixture darlin.
Do I have to list roads, police etc?

Who is Ann Raynd?
Apologies, I always get her name wrong
 
Nice foul mouth.
Dead giveaway for zero college.just can't resist 2 nd grade insults
I thought you were so righteous and principled you wouldn't take it?
And VA?
Looks like an entitlement to me.
As the old joke goes
"If you are not smart enough to get a real job, join the military. Indoctrination only second to religion and great socialist benefits"
Fuck you. Want to compare sheep skins?

How is recovering money paid into a fraudulent government ponzi scheme a violation of principles? That's like a creditor refusing to accept a portion of the money owed by the debtor because he is principled and will take nothing but all of it. It's a stupid argument.

As for the VA, military personnel get paid very little. Part of their compensation is the VA benefit. They are being paid for services rendered, ass clown. If you can't see the difference, you are a fucking moron.

and again, FUCK YOU.

.
 
I thought this was the right wing argument.
I thought she was for the good ol USA argument
"I've got mine, screw the rest?"
As a drug millionaire I've faithfully followed her creed
Which country again adopted her theories?
Zero?
We're all too busy trying to keep you worthless commies from taking over.

.
 
We keep hearing from the left that we need to keep our borders open because we should allow diseased illegal aliens and their sick children access to our healthcare system and We the People are supposed to pay for it. We have Anchor babies and DACA using up precious resources of education that could go to poor neighborhoods bringing up those US kids in need of a proper education. Just recently Joe "the Groper" Biden had said that we need to pay for healthcare even for the illegal aliens. This is what Cloward and Piven agenda is all about. The ignorant, uninformed, low intelligent people on the left dont realize that when the country goes bankrupt, there isnt any food, energy or water except for the elites. They will starve and then the Communists will come in and take everyone's rights away.

OUTRAGE: Joe Biden Argues Americans MUST Pay To Provide Healthcare For ILLEGAL ALIENS

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual ...
Cloward–Piven strategy - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward_and_Piven
Cloward-Piven.jpg


Thats what theyre doing in the EUSSR and The FUSA
eventually the system collapses

Here in the former USA its one of the reasons they want your rifles ..in a massive economic collapse they think theyre going to strong arm everyone into some totalitarian freak show
those who survive anyway ....

spicy time.jpg
 
We keep hearing from the left that we need to keep our borders open because we should allow diseased illegal aliens and their sick children access to our healthcare system and We the People are supposed to pay for it. We have Anchor babies and DACA using up precious resources of education that could go to poor neighborhoods bringing up those US kids in need of a proper education. Just recently Joe "the Groper" Biden had said that we need to pay for healthcare even for the illegal aliens. This is what Cloward and Piven agenda is all about. The ignorant, uninformed, low intelligent people on the left dont realize that when the country goes bankrupt, there isnt any food, energy or water except for the elites. They will starve and then the Communists will come in and take everyone's rights away.

OUTRAGE: Joe Biden Argues Americans MUST Pay To Provide Healthcare For ILLEGAL ALIENS

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual ...
Cloward–Piven strategy - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward_and_Piven
Cloward-Piven.jpg
nobody takes right wingers seriously about economics.

y'all only whine about the general welfare not the general warfare.

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are nothing but socialism on a national basis.

No one takes you seriously about anything, you have nothing to offer.
 
We keep hearing from the left that we need to keep our borders open because we should allow diseased illegal aliens and their sick children access to our healthcare system and We the People are supposed to pay for it. We have Anchor babies and DACA using up precious resources of education that could go to poor neighborhoods bringing up those US kids in need of a proper education. Just recently Joe "the Groper" Biden had said that we need to pay for healthcare even for the illegal aliens. This is what Cloward and Piven agenda is all about. The ignorant, uninformed, low intelligent people on the left dont realize that when the country goes bankrupt, there isnt any food, energy or water except for the elites. They will starve and then the Communists will come in and take everyone's rights away.

OUTRAGE: Joe Biden Argues Americans MUST Pay To Provide Healthcare For ILLEGAL ALIENS

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual ...
Cloward–Piven strategy - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward_and_Piven
Cloward-Piven.jpg
nobody takes right wingers seriously about economics.

y'all only whine about the general welfare not the general warfare.

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are nothing but socialism on a national basis.

No one takes you seriously about anything, you have nothing to offer.
yet, i resort to the fewest fallacies.

who cares what the nine hundred ninety-nine believe.
 
We keep hearing from the left that we need to keep our borders open because we should allow diseased illegal aliens and their sick children access to our healthcare system and We the People are supposed to pay for it. We have Anchor babies and DACA using up precious resources of education that could go to poor neighborhoods bringing up those US kids in need of a proper education. Just recently Joe "the Groper" Biden had said that we need to pay for healthcare even for the illegal aliens. This is what Cloward and Piven agenda is all about. The ignorant, uninformed, low intelligent people on the left dont realize that when the country goes bankrupt, there isnt any food, energy or water except for the elites. They will starve and then the Communists will come in and take everyone's rights away.

OUTRAGE: Joe Biden Argues Americans MUST Pay To Provide Healthcare For ILLEGAL ALIENS

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual ...
Cloward–Piven strategy - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward_and_Piven
Cloward-Piven.jpg
nobody takes right wingers seriously about economics.

y'all only whine about the general welfare not the general warfare.

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are nothing but socialism on a national basis.

No one takes you seriously about anything, you have nothing to offer.
yet, i resort to the fewest fallacies.

who cares what the nine hundred ninety-nine believe.

Except you don't, you just think you do, nice try. LOL!!!!:21::21::21:
 
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We keep hearing from the left that we need to keep our borders open because we should allow diseased illegal aliens and their sick children access to our healthcare system and We the People are supposed to pay for it. We have Anchor babies and DACA using up precious resources of education that could go to poor neighborhoods bringing up those US kids in need of a proper education. Just recently Joe "the Groper" Biden had said that we need to pay for healthcare even for the illegal aliens. This is what Cloward and Piven agenda is all about. The ignorant, uninformed, low intelligent people on the left dont realize that when the country goes bankrupt, there isnt any food, energy or water except for the elites. They will starve and then the Communists will come in and take everyone's rights away.

OUTRAGE: Joe Biden Argues Americans MUST Pay To Provide Healthcare For ILLEGAL ALIENS

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual ...
Cloward–Piven strategy - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward_and_Piven
Cloward-Piven.jpg
nobody takes right wingers seriously about economics.

y'all only whine about the general welfare not the general warfare.

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are nothing but socialism on a national basis.

No one takes you seriously about anything, you have nothing to offer.
yet, i resort to the fewest fallacies.

who cares what the nine hundred ninety-nine believe.

Except you don't, you just think you do, nice try. LOL!!!!:21::21::21:
Yes, I do. Only the nine hundred ninety-nine claim what You do.
 
We keep hearing from the left that we need to keep our borders open because we should allow diseased illegal aliens and their sick children access to our healthcare system and We the People are supposed to pay for it. We have Anchor babies and DACA using up precious resources of education that could go to poor neighborhoods bringing up those US kids in need of a proper education. Just recently Joe "the Groper" Biden had said that we need to pay for healthcare even for the illegal aliens. This is what Cloward and Piven agenda is all about. The ignorant, uninformed, low intelligent people on the left dont realize that when the country goes bankrupt, there isnt any food, energy or water except for the elites. They will starve and then the Communists will come in and take everyone's rights away.

OUTRAGE: Joe Biden Argues Americans MUST Pay To Provide Healthcare For ILLEGAL ALIENS

Cloward-Piven.jpg
nobody takes right wingers seriously about economics.

y'all only whine about the general welfare not the general warfare.

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are nothing but socialism on a national basis.

No one takes you seriously about anything, you have nothing to offer.
yet, i resort to the fewest fallacies.

who cares what the nine hundred ninety-nine believe.

Except you don't, you just think you do, nice try. LOL!!!!:21::21::21:
Yes, I do. Only the nine hundred ninety-nine claim what You do.

Thanks for laughing at my post I thought it was funny as well.
 
nobody takes right wingers seriously about economics.

y'all only whine about the general welfare not the general warfare.

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are nothing but socialism on a national basis.

No one takes you seriously about anything, you have nothing to offer.
yet, i resort to the fewest fallacies.

who cares what the nine hundred ninety-nine believe.

Except you don't, you just think you do, nice try. LOL!!!!:21::21::21:
Yes, I do. Only the nine hundred ninety-nine claim what You do.

Thanks for laughing at my post I thought it was funny as well.
i don't have to merely think so; i have valid arguments and resort to the fewest fallacies.
 

Actually, the Cloward-Piven plan was only about eliminating the welfare system in favor of a GMI. The basic idea was that the welfare system was an inferior approach to alleviating poverty, compared to a GMI, because it allegedly was significantly less efficient. Piven and Cloward suggested that an active effort to inform the unenrolled-yet-qualified, and to encourage them to enroll and reap the benefits to which the law entitled them, would primarily result in an overload of the bureaucratic apparatuses. Eventually, state and local governments would start seeing that their welfare programs were not fiscally solvent in the long term, and would grow frustrated with the administrative challenges. This, they hoped, would cause those states to come to favor a GMI instead, as a simpler, more effective alternative.
 
No one takes you seriously about anything, you have nothing to offer.
yet, i resort to the fewest fallacies.

who cares what the nine hundred ninety-nine believe.

Except you don't, you just think you do, nice try. LOL!!!!:21::21::21:
Yes, I do. Only the nine hundred ninety-nine claim what You do.

Thanks for laughing at my post I thought it was funny as well.
i don't have to merely think so; i have valid arguments and resort to the fewest fallacies.
Your first fallacy should be how socialism actually works. Not like we’re short on examples here proving it doesn’t. It never does and never will.
 

Actually, the Cloward-Piven plan was only about eliminating the welfare system in favor of a GMI. The basic idea was that the welfare system was an inferior approach to alleviating poverty, compared to a GMI, because it allegedly was significantly less efficient. Piven and Cloward suggested that an active effort to inform the unenrolled-yet-qualified, and to encourage them to enroll and reap the benefits to which the law entitled them, would primarily result in an overload of the bureaucratic apparatuses. Eventually, state and local governments would start seeing that their welfare programs were not fiscally solvent in the long term, and would grow frustrated with the administrative challenges. This, they hoped, would cause those states to come to favor a GMI instead, as a simpler, more effective alternative.
GMI means what?
 
yet, i resort to the fewest fallacies.

who cares what the nine hundred ninety-nine believe.

Except you don't, you just think you do, nice try. LOL!!!!:21::21::21:
Yes, I do. Only the nine hundred ninety-nine claim what You do.

Thanks for laughing at my post I thought it was funny as well.
i don't have to merely think so; i have valid arguments and resort to the fewest fallacies.
Your first fallacy should be how socialism actually works. Not like we’re short on examples here proving it doesn’t. It never does and never will.
Government is socialism. You need socialism to have Government. We have a Mixed-Market economy that is part capitalism and part socialism.

Congress commands fiscal policy and the Fed commands monetary policy in our "command economy".
 
Except you don't, you just think you do, nice try. LOL!!!!:21::21::21:
Yes, I do. Only the nine hundred ninety-nine claim what You do.

Thanks for laughing at my post I thought it was funny as well.
i don't have to merely think so; i have valid arguments and resort to the fewest fallacies.
Your first fallacy should be how socialism actually works. Not like we’re short on examples here proving it doesn’t. It never does and never will.
Government is socialism. You need socialism to have Government. We have a Mixed-Market economy that is part capitalism and part socialism.

Congress commands fiscal policy and the Fed commands monetary policy in our "command economy".
There’s no reason to surrender to that bullshit. Government can only have the power you decide to give them because you aren’t capable of making your own decisions. You have to be an absolute moron to think the likes of the democrat party can run your life better than you can. Socialism never helped anyone.
 

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