CDZ Clinton, secrecy and the people.

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    The OP rightly took Clinton to task but ignored similar or worse from Trump. I'm unlikely to vote for Trump no matter what he says or does so if I can voice my displeasure with Hillary's actions I dislike I do. What have you done to stop Trump from telling tales?
     
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    What has Trump done to equal Hillary's massive corruption and deceit? The MSM has done its best to "stop Trump from telling tales" but has excused absolutely heinous behavior by Hillary.
     
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    documented corruption: Trump Foundation funds used as Trump's personal benefit.
    documented deceit: Google it, too many to name

    None of this excuses Hillary's lies but I have yet to hear you criticize Trump for doing what she did. It seems your only answer is the she is worse, like that is an excuse for Trump.
     
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    OK, both Hillary and Trump have had travel expenses paid by their foundations. Now on to REAL issues: Hillary knowingly compromised national security and abused her office while Secretary of State and then destroyed evidence of her criminal wrongdoing, as well as committed perjury before a Congressional committee. What "corruption" has Trump done to compare to that?
     
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    Travel expenses are legitimate. Paying off a business debt with money donated to a charity is illegal and extremely immoral. Those funds should have been used for people in need not people in greed :)

    Why did Hillary use private email. Maybe the government system was so restrictive she used it only when she absolutely had to and use the private email for the freedom it gave her? Maybe she thought a server under her control would be more secure than gmail. Did she profit from having a private email server?
     
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    The point of the op is that Democrats like stories even if those stories have no basis in reality. They hear the story and believe in it with all their hearts. This is how they have been led by a bad leadership that has figured out the recipe to keep them hooked. Health insurance for everyone? Oh what a wonderful story. We will all be one big happy family and live happily ever after. The reality that our healthcare system is being devastated is like telling them there is no Easter Bunny or Tooth Fairy or Santa Clause. The deeper reality is that the Affordable Care Act is the missing piece in the apparatus of orchestrated government dependence which functions as an important mechanism to enrich and empower those who oversee the machinery. But it's such a good story that many democrats refuse to accept the truth. Just like they unquestioningly followed the fairy tale yarn of Obama's life and rise to power.
     
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    Reporters sitting in rooms with blacked-out windows. Legislators voting on a bill they haven’t seen. Welcome to 2017.

    From The White House To Capitol Hill, Republicans Embrace Secrecy | HuffPost
     
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    We are the only nation that doesn't give every citizen healthcare. It's not an impossible thing to do idiot.

    And you even posted a fake news story, so don't claim we spread lies when you do yourself. Are you claiming Hillary had a stroke still? That was what was going around before the election. You even eluded to it above. You sir are a liar
     
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    Wrong
     
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    Name the ones that dont
     

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