Clinton appointed Federal judge Throws Out Piracy Charges Against 6 Somalis…

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    RICHMOND, Va. (AP) – A judge on Tuesday dismissed piracy charges against six Somali men accused of attacking a Navy ship off the coast of Africa, concluding the U.S. government failed to make the case their alleged actions amounted to piracy.
    The dismissal of the piracy count by U.S. District Judge Raymond A. Jackson tosses the most serious charge against the men, but leaves intact seven other charges related to the alleged April 10 attack on the USS Ashland in the Gulf of Aden. A piracy conviction carries a mandatory life term.
    Defense attorneys argued last month that the Ashland defendants did not meet the U.S. legal definition of piracy because they did not take command of and rob the amphibious dock landing ship.
    Jackson agreed in his ruling, finding that the government “failed to establish that any unauthorized acts of violence or aggression committed on the high seas constitutes piracy as defined by the law of nations.”
     
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    This judge did this just to get votes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Whew, I was channeling truthdoesn'tmatter there for a minute. scary stuff.
     
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    Why does it matter if Clinton appointed him?

    Also:

     
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    It doesn't.
     
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    If you have to actually take command of a ship, it does not look like it meets the definintion of piracy regardless of who appointed the judge.

    Attempted piracy looks like what they are guilty of.

    We need to change our laws regarding piracy. You need to stop these guys before they board a ship. If they attack, they should be considered pirates
     
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    If these guys aren't pirates, I don't know who is.
    This decision bodes ill for any attempt to try al Qaeda terrorists in civilian court. I don't know why there isn't more screaming about it. I guess not enough Americans were killed.
     
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    U.S. District Judge Raymond A. Jackson is an idiot.
     
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    Is he the idiot or the prosecutors who brought the case? He can only rule on what they've presented.
     
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    If he based his judgment on the fact that the ship was never took command of and robbed the vessel he's an idiot. The fact is these Somolians are pirates and were engaging in piracy. They refer to United States v. Smith to justify the ruling. Where in that case it was deemed not piracy because the pirates were not operating under the acknowledged authority or deriving protection from the flag or commission of any government. IMO the judge fucked up.
     
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    that's nice.

    the Smith decision did not explore the issue of control of the ship. the argument in that case was whether Congress could legislate on a topic covered by the 'law of nations'. the issue of 'robbery on the high seas' was incidental to that question.

    incidentally, you do realize they face other charges, right?
     
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