Climate science is crooked.

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    And you don’t mind charging it up for hours before you can drive to the grocery store.
     
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    The entire system can only provide power for an hour.
     
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    One doesn't have to be a genius to figure out that fossil fuel efficiency is not and will never be a priority as long as profits are the primary motivator. There is a valid argument against providing cheap energy to the masses leading to population explosions but is has nothing to do with climate .Look up Calhoun's Rodent Paradise. The problem with Climate Change initiatives is that they function to enslave the multitudes with taxation and regulation using purchased, politicized junk science that ignores real, obvious causation like Sun cycles and changes in the Earth's rotation and polar wobble. Just follow the money. The $green$ everyone keeps talking about is the color of the wealth that is there for those who get in on the ground floor of a political, global pyramid scheme.
     
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    Do you go to the gas station every time you go to the grocery store? Most Tesla's have a range of about 300 miles. Even the low range EV's are about 80 miles. More than enough to handle go to the grocery store, and back and forth to work for most of us. Plug it in every night, and you are ready to go in the morning. And drive for pennies on the dollar compared to ICE cars.
     
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    Lots of words, zero understanding of the meanings of them. What we are seeing now is going in the opposite direction of the Milankovic Cycles. And the TSI of the sun is, at present, declining slightly.

    The Carnot cycle limits the efficiency of the ICE. It does not apply to the EV's. They are over 90% efficient if they are regen. As the price of the batteries comes down and their energy density goes up, an EV will be less costly to purchase than an ICE, far more dependable, and far, far cheaper to run. As well as running circles around the ICE's in performance and handling.
     
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    Renewable energy may well one day replace fossil fuels.........but not for many, many decades. By 2050, worldwide renewable energy use will still be hovering around 15% maximum and fossil fuels will still be dominant. Its not even debatable according to President Obama's EIA assessment from 2016 >>

    http://naturalgasnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/eia-aeo2014-forecast-512x384.png

    So..........anybody in this forum today making posts will be in their box for many generations by the time fossil fuels go away.:bye1:


    And really when you think about it...........any discussion of "the science" is nothing more than an exercise in group navel contemplation.
     
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    Anyone can go to a community college, take a course on statistics and then compose all kinds of complex charts and graphs on how to eat a doughnut. Oh, how impressive. Does it say anything useful? No.
     
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    Ahhh but there is even more to it than that!! The compose wildly colorful charts and graphs!! Ever notice that? Vivid colors...:ack-1:...especially red!! ( that represents 0.3 degree's ) Nobody makes colorful graphs like the AGW crowd.......has become an art form.:2up::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:
     
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    How do threads like this not get moved to the Conspiracy Theory section? It's one of the more absurd conspiracy theories that you'll find discussed on this site. Why legitimize this nonsense?
     
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    s0n.......you are deep in the matrix.......most naive Ive seen in here in the years Ive been on the USMB...........@ImNaive.com.

    In 2018, nobody is caring about climate change..........

    Poll: 91% Of Americans Aren’t Worried About Global Warming

    Climate change not man-made, say majority of Britons: poll

    Big Gap between What Scientists Say and Americans Think about Climate Change

    New Study: Majority of Climate Scientists Don't Agree with 'Consensus' - Breitbart



    Why is the Paris Treaty dead? Because in recent years, more and more folks have seen the scientists fucking with the science that is supposedly "decided".:up:


    http://torontosun.com/2017/03/18/paris-climate-treaty-dead/wcm/d6c90c0e-f86e-45dd-bc78-8d84d79479b7


    Offuckingcourse many believe that the climate industry is a racket. duh >>>


    "No matter if the science of global warming is all phony...
    climate change provides the greatest opportunity to
    bring about justice and equality in the world
    ."
    - Christine Stewart,
    former Canadian Minister of the Environment


    "We've got to ride this global warming issue.
    Even if the theory of global warming is wrong,
    we will be doing the right thing in terms of
    economic and environmental policy.
    "
    - Timothy Wirth,
    President of the UN Foundation


    The models are convenient fictions
    that provide something very useful
    .”
    - Dr David Frame,
    climate modeler, Oxford University


    "It doesn't matter what is true,
    it only matters what people believe is true
    ."
    - Paul Watson,
    co-founder of Greenpeace


    "The only way to get our society to truly change is to
    frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe
    ."
    - emeritus professor Daniel Botkin





    Bubble dwelling is ghey. So is wearing tin foil hats btw..........:bye1::gay::gay:
     
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