Climate Justice?

[Preacher]

LOL! Turned on Fox news to catch up on latest and they are with some snowflake march about climate change etc.....

 

[BluesLegend]

Only idiot liberals would try to control the climate of a planet heated by a star, tune in next week when libs try to control the climate of Venus.

 

[Penelope]

They are smart enough to realize this is all we have, this earth. They do not fantasize with living on Mars, a planet that has no 02, like the elites.

 

[washamericom]

we need to control the weather on earth first. then maybe genocide in chicago..

 

[Toro]

"Climate justice"

lol

 

[waltky]

Ghost forests increasing...

Climate change before your eyes: Seas rise and trees die
Aug 1, 2017 — They're called "ghost forests" — dead trees along vast swaths of coastline invaded by rising seas, something scientists call one of the most visible markers of climate change.

The process has happened naturally for thousands of years, but it has accelerated in recent decades as polar ice melts and raises sea levels, scientists say, pushing salt water farther inland and killing trees in what used to be thriving freshwater plains. Efforts are underway worldwide to determine exactly how quickly the creation of ghost forests is increasing. But scientists agree the startling sight of dead trees in once-healthy areas is an easy-to-grasp example of the consequences of climate change. "I think ghost forests are the most obvious indicator of climate change anywhere on the Eastern coast of the U.S.," said Matthew Kirwan, a professor at Virginia Institute of Marine Science who is studying ghost forests in his state and Maryland. "It was dry, usable land 50 years ago; now it's marshes with dead stumps and dead trees."

It is happening around the world, but researchers say new ghost forests are particularly apparent in North America, with hundreds of thousands of acres of salt-killed trees stretching from Canada down the East Coast, around Florida and over to Texas. The intruding salt water changes coastal ecosystems, creating marshes where forests used to be. This has numerous effects on the environment, though many scientists caution against viewing them in terms of "good" or "bad." What benefits one species or ecosystem might harm another one, they say. For instance, migratory birds that rely on coastal forests have less habitat. And the death of the trees makes soil microbes release nitrogen, which adds to nitrogen already occurring from other sources, including agricultural runoff, to contribute to algae blooms and reduced oxygen that can sicken or kill fish. But the conversion of forest into marshland produces "extremely productive" wetlands that feed and shelter fish and shellfish.

The sun rises on a "ghost forest" near the Savannah River in Port Wentworth, Ga​

The Atlantic croaker fish, for instance, was rare 15 years ago in southern New Jersey waters but now is abundant, said Ken Able, a Rutgers University professor. "There is a lot of change going on," said Greg Noe, a research ecologist with the U.S. Geological Survey. "It's dramatic and it's changing faster than it has before in human history." Quantifying the rate of increase in ghost forests is a major focus of Able's research. Some scientists say the increase began around the time of the Industrial Revolution, while others say the speedup began more recently than that. In the past 100 years, Kirwan said, 100,000 acres of forest in the Chesapeake Bay has converted to marshland. Photographs show the rate of coastal forest loss is four times greater now than it was during the 1930s, he said.

Seas off the East Coast have risen by 1.3 feet over the last 100 years, said Ben Horton, a Rutgers University professor and expert on sea level rise. That is a faster pace than for the past 2,000 years combined, he said. Some of the most dramatic anecdotal evidence of the acceleration in ghost forest creation is along the Savannah River between Georgia and South Carolina, Noe said. When his team first got there 10 years ago, "it looked like the trees were under a little stress, but they were all alive," he said. "But five years later, the vast majority of them were dead. That happened right in front of our eyes, much faster than we expected." Marcelo Ardon, a biology professor at North Carolina State University, studied one site called the Palmetto Pear Tree Preserve on Albemarle Sound in North Carolina from 2006 to 2009. When he returned in 2016, he said, "what used to look like a healthy cypress swamp, now the trees are dead and the water level is a lot higher. The place has completely changed. I've checked overhead satellite photos and you can see the trees dying."

In southern New Jersey, the most affected species is the Atlantic white cedar, which was a mainstay of the shipbuilding industry because of its resistance to rot. Farther south, cypress, loblolly pines and Eastern red cedar are dying. Large storms can drive salt water further inland and kill trees; 2012's Superstorm Sandy is believed to have led to the deaths of some trees in southern New Jersey, Able said. The difference, Kirwan said, is that in the past, flooded areas would dry out before salt water killed most of the trees. "That same storm 100 years ago would also have killed trees," he said. "But 100 years ago that same land wouldn't have been so wet that new trees couldn't get established and replace the dead ones. That's a big part of where sea level rise comes in."

Climate change before your eyes: Seas rise and trees die

 

[waltky]

Granny says he must know what he talkin' `bout - he's a scientist...

Neil deGrasse Tyson Destroys Climate Change Deniers' Favorite Argument In 1 Tweet
September 11, 2017 - A go-to argument from science deniers was absolutely crushed by one of the world’s most famous scientists.

Some believe one reason for the consensus that human activity has caused climate change is that scientists are in cahoots with each other. But Neil deGrasse Tyson, the astrophysicist, author and director of the Hayden Planetarium at the American Museum of Natural History in New York, highlighted the biggest flaw in that logic in a tweet he fired off on Sunday:

Neil deGrasse Tyson
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@neiltyson

Anyone who thinks scientists like agreeing with one another has never attended a scientific conference.
10:54 AM - Sep 10, 2017

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Tyson has tackled the issue before. Just last month, he said that no one denied the solar eclipse, which was predicted by science. “I don’t see people objecting to it. I don’t see people in denial of it. Yet methods and tools of science predict it,” he said on “The Daily Show.” “So when methods and tools of science predict other things, to have people turn around and say ’I deny what you say,’ there’s something wrong in our world when that happens.” Earlier this year, Tyson also warned that America’s growing rejection of science was “the beginning of the end of an informed democracy.” He said:

“I’m so disappointed that the country that I grew up in ― that put men on the moon, that developed the internet, that invented personal computers and smartphones ― that people are debating what is and what is not scientifically true.”

A 2013 analysis of climate research found that that 97 percent of peer-reviewed papers that took a position on the issue endorsed the consensus view that human activity was causing climate change.

Neil deGrasse Tyson Destroys Climate Change Deniers' Favorite Argument In 1 Tweet

 

[otto105]

Climate justice just hit Texas and Florida.

 

[whitehall]

A hurricane hit Florida in the same place at the same date in 1960. At that time lefties were predicting a new ice age so JFK didn't have to worry about global warming. The worst hurricane to hit Florida was in the early 30's. If the global warming numbers are correct the hurricane damage should increase dramatically as the effects of man-made pollution increases in a hundred years including WW2 when ships were torpedoed weekly off the North Carolina coast but the math doesn't seem to work. Despite the hype of a "nuclear hurricane" it seems that Irma wasn't so bad overall and the Mouse House in Orlando was up and running in two days.

 

[eagle7_31]

A hurricane hit Florida in the same place at the same date in 1960. At that time lefties were predicting a new ice age so JFK didn't have to worry about global warming. The worst hurricane to hit Florida was in the early 30's. If the global warming numbers are correct the hurricane damage should increase dramatically as the effects of man-made pollution increases in a hundred years including WW2 when ships were torpedoed weekly off the North Carolina coast but the math doesn't seem to work. Despite the hype of a "nuclear hurricane" it seems that Irma wasn't so bad overall and the Mouse House in Orlando was up and running in two days.

Nixon carried Florida in 1960. Nixon most likely carried Illinois, Missouri and Texas as well, but we will never know for sure.

 

[fncceo]

They do not fantasize with living on Mars

Ummm ... they actually do.

 

[fncceo]

Ghost forests increasing...

Awesome!