Climate change prediction facts

[Reasonable]

Two unprecedented hurricanes in 2 weeks and the climate change deniers are STILL pushing their antiscience crap.

How many billions are we going to have to put out to decimated Americans before you idiots admit getting out of the Paris Accord was one of Trump's biggest blunders?

The science community says GW is still occurring and man is the cause...
Far right non science media carries the water for the fossil fuel companies.
Meanwhile Trump just nominated a politician( not a scientist) to head NASA.
Not surprising he's a climate change denier just like Trump.

Worst president EVER..

 

[my2¢]

It all depends on who one believes. I'll go with whatever Popular Science's stance is on the matter, if they have one.

 

[Reasonable]

We have had so much negative info re climate from all sides, and each side uses it in a political manner, so any one who just wants facts are left shaking there head.

Incorrect. Climate scientists are in agreement.

 

[OKTexas]

The climate is changing as predicted by climate scientists. Their prediction is proved right by the statistics. No scientist can say for sure that any particular weather event is directly caused by global warming, but what has been predicted is that extreme weather events will increase in number. What is an extreme weather event? It could be any of the following; hurricane, tornado, flood, extraordinary heat and or wild fires, extraordinary cold, snowfall/crop freeze event. The inclusive requirement being at least $1billion in property damages (in inflation adjusted $).

So has there been an increase?

Let's go to the numbers. Following are the average number of extreme weather events by decade since 1980 when the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (a division of NASA ) began compiling the data.
1980's - 2.7 events per year
1990's - 4.9 events per year
2000's - 5.4 events per year
2010's - 10.3 events per year

We are now experiencing extreme weather events of at least $1 billion dollar in property damage at triple the rate we were in the 1980's. Science deniers will of course deny this information, because that is what they do...

To make it worse, Trump just nominated a science denying politician to head up NASA. Rep.Jim Bridenstine R. Oklahoma, who has no science background (first nominee ever without a science background) to head NASA. Already there is bipartisan push back. The Senate should reject this nominee. We must have someone leading who understands the scientific method and believes what the science shows.

Science makes predictions all the time that turn out to be true, for instance my wife and I just made a 1100 mile journey to a place predicted by science to be an optimal viewing location for the solar eclipse. We were there on the appointed day at the exact predicted time and low and behold the eclipse was exactly as predicted! Science works! Even on climate science!

Wasn't the northern polar ice caps supposed to be gone and FL and large parts of the US coast under water by now? So much for predictions.


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No. That was politicians taking the worst case scenario and trying to frighten the bejesus out of folks with it. If I recall correctly the consensus was sometime after 2050 there would be Ice free summers in the Arctic. Greenland's Ice would melt and cause sea level to rise a good deal but I don't recall the date on that shit right now. I'm sure it was sometime late in this century as most likely.

Al the whore, hight priest of climate change, said it already should have happened.

Al Gore Ice-Free Arctic Update

The fact is, it's thicker than it has been in decades.


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Al Gore is not a scientist. He's a politician.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/07/170724133153.htm

This older multiyear ice, once the bulwark of the Arctic sea ice pack, has dramatically thinned and shrunk in extent along with the warming climate: in the mid-1980s, multi-year ice accounted for 70 percent of total winter Arctic sea ice extent; by the end of 2012, this percentage had dropped to less than 20 percent.

"Most of the central Arctic Ocean used to be covered with thick multiyear ice that would not completely melt during the summer and reflect back sunshine," said Nathan Kurtz, IceBridge's project scientist and a sea ice researcher at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. "But we have now lost most of this old ice and exposed the open ocean below, which absorbs most of the sun's energy. That's one reason the Arctic warming has increased nearly twice the global average

I saw an interview with a so called scientist the other night, he claimed grapes suitable for wine shouldn't be growing in England, of course he ignored that in the 600's England was a wine producer. How many coal fired power plants and SUVs did they have in the 600's? The fact is the climate has been changing and shifting since day one and if man thinks he can change that, it proves how truly stupid he can be, no matter how well educated.


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[Richard-H]

NOAA posted a list of the five “lowest non-overlapping 12 month counts on record from 1954-present.” Notably, each of these low-tornado periods occur since 1986, precisely during the time period global warming alarmists claim global warming is causing more extreme weather events such as tornadoes.

197 tornadoes – starting in May 2012

247 tornadoes – starting in June 1991

270 tornadoes – starting in November 1986

289 tornadoes – starting in December 2001

298 tornadoes – starting in June 2000

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12 years - over 4,000 days - without a hurricane hitting the US until Harvey. This easily smashes the prior record of less than 2,300 days between major hurricane strikes.

Try checking those dates again. Hurricane Sandy hit in 2012.

Cat 1. Not a major hurricane.

$75 Billion in damages - only surpassed by Katrina - and you say 'Not a major Hurricane'?!?!?

Seriously?!?!?

 

[OKTexas]

Two unprecedented hurricanes in 2 weeks and the climate change deniers are STILL pushing their antiscience crap.

How many billions are we going to have to put out to decimated Americans before you idiots admit getting out of the Paris Accord was one of Trump's biggest blunders?

The science community says GW is still occurring and man is the cause...
Far right non science media carries the water for the fossil fuel companies.
Meanwhile Trump just nominated a politician( not a scientist) to head NASA.
Not surprising he's a climate change denier just like Trump.

Worst president EVER..

They are only unprecedented in modern times, prove it's never happened before, our records are a simple snap shot in the life of the earth.


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[MarathonMike]

Why do Climate Scientists spend 99% of their time trying to prove what can't be proved? In the meantime, they all but ignore the solid waste pollution that is turning our Oceans into a liquid landfill? In another 20 years you won't be able to drive a boat 100 yards without bumping into a plastic carton or a dead fish.

Do you or your family buy bottled water or soft drinks?

No. We never drink soft drinks and we have a filter on our refrigerator for filtered ice and water.

 

[Darkwind]

Ok I'll try to make it simpler for you. The science predicts increases in extreme weather events which may include tornados and hurricanes but is not limited to those. It could be other things like droughts, wild fires, crop freeze damage, etc.

As predicted these extreme weather events have increased in occurrence (there's more of them!).

Good thing or bad?

You honestly don't see it, do you?

When you have to include 'EVERYTHING' in order to make your predictions seem right, you're not. What you are doing is making it possible to say that climate change is responsible for ANYTHING you want to say it is responsible for.

That is not science. That is just poorly veiled politics.

This is what the science predicted, more extreme weather events. Not just more hurricanes. And that is what is happening, or due you dispute the data? If you do, be sure to include a rational bases for doing so. Simply denying the data is not an argument.

Dispute the data? LOL

What data? You people are just saying anything that falls outside the norm is 'climate change'.

If its a draught. Climate change.
If its a flood. Climate change.
Earthquake in the Pacific. Climate Change.
Oceans drop 2 mm. Climate Change.
Oceans rise 2 mm. Climate Change.
Hurricanes don't happen. Climate Change.
Hurricanes do happen. Climate Change.

Few Tornados. Climate Change.
More Tornados. Climate Change
Cows fart. Climate Change.
Students fart. Climate Change.
Dogs are sleeping with Cats. Climate Change.

Get the picture ?

 

[Pete7469]

Al Gore is not a scientist. He's a politician.

And a fraud, like most political whores are. He's also fucking stupid.

Yet you fools believe his bullshit.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

“Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” - environmental physical chemist Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh

 

[Pete7469]

You're heckling 'cause you got nothin'

As if you would listen if I wasted my time on you.

Jesus Christ Himself could suddenly appear in front of you and declare MMGW is bullshit, and without skipping a beat you'd tell Him He wasn't really there.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

“The whole idea of anthropogenic global warming is completely unfounded. There appears to have been money gained by Michael Mann, Al Gore and UN IPCC’s Rajendra Pachauri as a consequence of this deception, so it’s fraud.” — South African astrophysicist Hilton Ratcliffe

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Two unprecedented hurricanes in 2 weeks and the climate change deniers are STILL pushing their antiscience crap.

How many billions are we going to have to put out to decimated Americans before you idiots admit getting out of the Paris Accord was one of Trump's biggest blunders?

The science community says GW is still occurring and man is the cause...
Far right non science media carries the water for the fossil fuel companies.
Meanwhile Trump just nominated a politician( not a scientist) to head NASA.
Not surprising he's a climate change denier just like Trump.

Worst president EVER..

Hurricanes were unprecedented in South Florida the last 12 years.

Please tell us how the 1PPM of CO2 added since then changed the climate of planet Earth to spawn these "unprecedented" hurricanes

 

[Billy_Bob]

Way to ignore the facts. Even when put in terms that might mean something to those who think every facet of life should be monetized , dollars that is, you still want to deny.

Never mind, just put your head back in the sand.

What Facts?

All you have done is tout your religious beliefs without evidence. How about you support your conjecture and contrived BS with OBSERVED EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE...

 

[Billy_Bob]

By the way the climate change predictions also say the the extreme weather events in some cases will exceed past events in destructiveness. Harvey produced the greatest rainfall from a single storm in history and Irma has now by classified as strong a hurricane as any before.

Delay of El Nino may spur more hurricanes in the Atlantic during 2017; US on alert for impacts

All predicted by those same meteorologists that you love to quote. Just so you know the ACTUAL reasons for the frequency of this Cape Verde season. Which every year is from Aug 1st till November.

Every single Cat 3 or stronger to ever hit this country has been a Cape Verde storm. This years hurricanes no different.

Of course the delayed El Nino is the cause and your meteorologists confirmed it before Cape Verde season started.

You, are wrong. Plus, you do nothing for the environment anyway. As you claimed my rhetorical questions were strawman arguments. Funny.

You are funny.

Correct.. WE are in a LA Niña pattern which creates a trough over the North American continent. This trough causes dry patterns in the Western US (and the resulting lightening caused wildfires) and paths for hurricanes to hit major areas off of the gulf. The trough that held Harvey is now centered over Florida without a blocking high to prevent it from moving so it will not stall over Florida like it did over Texas...

 

[Billy_Bob]

Two unprecedented hurricanes in 2 weeks and the climate change deniers are STILL pushing their antiscience crap.

How many billions are we going to have to put out to decimated Americans before you idiots admit getting out of the Paris Accord was one of Trump's biggest blunders?

The science community says GW is still occurring and man is the cause...
Far right non science media carries the water for the fossil fuel companies.
Meanwhile Trump just nominated a politician( not a scientist) to head NASA.
Not surprising he's a climate change denier just like Trump.

Worst president EVER..

So were supposed to ignore the long no storm length and focus on two weeks.... moron.....

 

[Old Rocks]

Not a single rebuttal on point. No I'm not surprised. Not a single reply to the fact that extreme weather events, which have always happened are now happening at triple the rate they were just a few decades ago.

Don't forget Trump's Chumps, extreme weather events are those that cause a minimum of $1Billion dollars in damages. That's a bad thing, not ok even though it's happened before.

Apparently, Trumps Chumps don't know that more of a bad thing is bad.

Can it be stated any more plainly, simply? Not for Trumps Chumps.

The Trumpanzees here are some of the most ignorant cocksucks in this nation, and they are proud to prove it continually on this board. No matter what the treasonous fat senile old orange clown does, they will support him. Even if he replaced the stars in the flag with swastikas. They stand in the street in and cheer for that. Willful ignorance and bigotry is what they live for.

https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1981/1981_Hansen_ha04600x.pdf

Summary. The global temperature rose by 0.20C between the middle 1960's and 1980, yielding a warming of 0.4°C in the past century. This temperature increase is consistent with the calculated greenhouse effect due to measured increases of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Variations of volcanic aerosols and possibly solar luminosity appear to be primary causes of observed fluctuations about the mean trend of increasing temperature. It is shown that the anthropogenic carbon dioxide warming should emerge from the noise level of natural climate variability by the end of the century, and there is a high probability of warming in the 1980's. Potential effects on climate in the 21st century include the creation of drought-prone regions in North America and central Asia as part of a shifting of climatic zones, erosion of the West Antarctic ice sheet with a consequent worldwide rise in sea level, and opening of the fabled Northwest Passage.

Full article at the link. Yes, the scientists have a very good record concerning their predictions on AGW. In the meantime, the deniers have failed totally on theirs.

 

[Old Rocks]

Virtually every single Scientific Society in the world, every single National Academy of Science, even that of Saudi Arabia, and every major University, has policy statements that say that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger.

 

[Billy_Bob]

HO HUM.... more appeals to authority even after their authorities have been proven liars...