CDZ Civilized Humans ???

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    To some extent we already are or perhaps still do live like animals. Scratch the surface of most people and you get the lurking savage underneath. Do not forget that the vast majority of humanity is living day to day and in many places struggling just to exist. From time immemorial we have been trying to accumulate wealth and power at the expense of others, have we not? Mostly all we've done is find new ways and weapons to do it on a grander scale. Which is not to say as a species we have not devoted time and effort to find cures for diseases and study the sciences to improve the lot in life for a lot of people. It ain't all bad, but there's no doubt we haven't worked harder than we should have on the social aspects of science rather than the technological aspects that increase the standard of living but also create great wealth.

    It ain't like we can't do it, we got the smarts to stop wasting time, money, and blood on stupid wars and petty squabbling. But obviously it's going to take some time. A lot of time would be my guess, it could be that we're in a race to adjust our priorities before a major catastrophe that maybe could have been prevented wipes us out. Or most of us. But - we ain't ready yet to grow up enough. JMO.
     
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    I think there will always be factions and fighting. I have no need to compete so I don't get it, but seems it's the norm
     
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    Our economic system is built on individualism and competition. Of course it is the norm.
     
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    Procreation would often fit our civilized definition of rape.
     
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    Examples of miserable failings, please.
     
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    I am speaking only of our situation in the US. News is just a bunch of juvenile nonsense. Most TV and movies are junk. We eat nothing but crap. We can't get decent individuals to be President because the entire system is corrupt. We can't even start our own businesses because of all the red tape, and, all the big money companies are gobbling up the smaller ones etc etc
     
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    Humans are animals. In fact humans are the most violent, dangerous animals that ever walked this rock.

    Our gossamer veil of civilization cannot obscure this fact.
     
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    Its a bit extreme to want to live as animals because of perceived imperfections in our civilization.
     
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    I understand the frustration - some of the things you list can be modified in lives if we choose ..diet, entertainment, etal. Over regulation, or targeted regulation can be a small business killer, true. Corruption in the political system is in direct proportion to our willingness to be distracted - turning on one another - toeing a party line, lack of intellectual curiosity, etc....showing little grace toward or understanding of issues that sincerely worry others. 'Course I have to say - looking at the bigger picture - most of these are problems unique to a successful society.

    There is a political/economic movement though that is toiling diligently to enable humans to live as animals, insects actually - bees or ants - they'd describe that world as as brave, and new. :)
     

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