CDZ Civil War?

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    Agreed on both points. Who is fighting for the Middle Class? Both major parties claim they do, but in reality, neither does.
     
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    Well hate is something I have never really felt, I strongly dislike those people who can not disuss a subject without gettig personal. When that happens I just walk away. I my way of handling the problem. Someone who displays that attitude has already lost the debate.
     
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    I still remember the reaching across the isle that the Demos always talked about the real meaing was WE GOT OUR WAY
     
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    Stop your unmanly boo hoo. The budget is 1 trillion plus, a tax cut for the rich funded on a deficit card. The Pubs did this, Dan.
     
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    It seems to me that more people in the middle class have moved into the upper middle or upper income segments of our society than have moved to the lower income segment.

    While it may be that the shrinkage of the population who are squarely in the middle income group has decreased, I'm not of a mind to be terribly concerned about it when the fact is that most of those people who no longer are middle income are not "squarely in the middle" because they are financially/economically better off:
    • The middle class went from being 62% of the population to 43% of it. That's a 19% drop.
    • The lower income segment went from being 10% to 9%. That's a 1% drop.
    • The upper income group went from being 29% of the population to 49% of the population. That's a 20% increase. It's not hard to see where it came from. 19% came from the middle class and 1% from the lower income segment of society.
    What is so terrible about that? In my mind, not much. What would people griping about the demise of the middle class prefer? That more people remain middle income rather than become upper income?

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    One anecdotal indicator of the fact that the nation is better off: when greedy people in fact have sufficient amounts of money, they "bitch and moan" more about all sorts of things, and the "bitching and moaning" quotient in the U.S. has definitely increased over the years. Why does it work out that way? Because one can spend one's resources complaining instead of going to work to earn the/more/enough money to put food on the table and roof over one's head.
     
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    The only "Civil War" happening anytime soon will be LEOs and Americans against Antifa.


    LEOs and Americans will win. This isn't Europe.
     
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    No problem. Crush antif lefties and righties right and left.
     
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    I question these figures. 49% of the US population is NOT upper middle class. Not even close.



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    Correct. As the article shows, it's 29.4%.
     
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