Civil Unions: A Step Foward

[Modbert]

Kiddie prostitution would be illegal too. Prostitution should be legal.

so which do you want prostitution and porn legal or not?

Porn for those over 18 = Legal

Kiddie Porn = Illegal

Kiddie Prostitution = Illegal

Prostitution = Illegal.

Though I guess you assume that all human trafficking is just children huh?

Using your paradigm, we would have to outlaw porn to save children from being victims of kiddie porn.

No, but I guess you don't read over the age of 18. If anyone is found using children in kiddie porn, they are automatically arrested and charged with such crimes. Would you rather they make it legal Elvis?

 

[Anguille]

You ever hear of condoms?

You ever hear of the fact that many don't use them already? And if you legalize Prostitution then you are opening the door for rampant Prostitution without condoms because then you'd force the Police and city to go around and make sure these guidelines are being followed.

How about the customers taking some responsibility for using condoms?

 

[Modbert]

That's their problem.

No, that's our problem. That's our money that goes towards such things. And of course, police officers time and resources spent which could of been used on much more severe crimes while not having to waste their time to make sure that none of the prostitutes are children because we just had to legalize it.

And let me guess Elvis, you're going to tax Prostitution too?

 

[elvis]

You are going to lose this battle. Was this a controlled experiment? No. It's an observational study. You can show association, not cause and effect.
to show cause and effect, you have to randomly assign the subjects into control group and non-control group, which in this case, they would not be able to do. (incidentally, this is also true for the man-made global warming argument)
They are unable to conduct an experiment where "lets see which hookers end up in human trafficking and which ones do not."

Do you have a controlled experiment to prove your points? No

So you've hoisted yourself upon your own petard there.

That kind of argument doesn't work in philosophy. You made the claim that prostitution causes human trafficking. You have to prove it. I don't have to prove the opposite. My argument is: You can't prove there is a connection between the two. You see, I never made the claim that there is no connection between human trafficking and prostitution. You made the claim that there IS. Show me a controlled experiment that shows cause and effect, and I will concede.

 

[Modbert]

You ever hear of condoms?

You ever hear of the fact that many don't use them already? And if you legalize Prostitution then you are opening the door for rampant Prostitution without condoms because then you'd force the Police and city to go around and make sure these guidelines are being followed.

How about the customers taking some responsibility for using condoms?

To show you why this does not partly work in some places.

Brothels forbid prostitutes to use condoms to prevent evidence - Haaretz - Israel News

And of course:

CBHD: Title - HIV and Prostitution: What’s the Answer?

The harm reduction approach is shortsighted, doomed to failure, and ethically lacking. It fails to recognize that many prostitutes are unable to negotiate condom use with their clients but often are forced to provide whatever services the client may want. In addition, it is common knowledge that prostitutes are often paid more if they agree to have sex without a condom. In fact, a study in Calcutta India found that prostitutes who regularly use condoms suffer a 79% reduction in their earnings over prostitutes who do not use condoms.1 A 79% loss of income is a huge motivator to forego the use of condoms!

Furthermore, advocating regular testing for sexually transmitted infections ignores the biological characteristic of latency. Latency refers to the fact that every type of infection—including sexually transmitted infections—has a period of time before it begins to manifest itself. In addition, for every test performed to identify a sexually transmitted infection there is a period of time between when the infection occurs and when the test will be able to detect it. This is called the “window period.” According to the CDC, for HIV testing, the usual window period is 4-6 weeks, but may be as long as 3 months.2

Even if a prostitute is being tested every week for HIV, she will test negative for at least the first 4-6 weeks and possibly the first 12 weeks after being infected. If we assume that he or she takes only 4 weeks to become positive, because there is an additional lag time of 1-2 weeks to get the results back, there will be at best a window period of 6 weeks for a prostitute. The average prostitute services between 10-15 clients per day. This means that while the test is becoming positive and the results are becoming known, that prostitute may expose up to 630 clients to HIV. This is under the best of circumstances with testing every week and a four-week window period. It also assumes that the prostitute will quit working as soon as he or she finds out the test is HIV positive, which is highly unlikely. This is not the best approach for actually reducing harm. Instead, in order to slow the global spread of HIV/AIDS we should focus our efforts on abolishing prostitution.

It's amazing, I'm posting link after link of clear evidence while all I get in return for answers is "what ifs" and sidetrack arguments which continue to change. I notice Elvis is no longer focusing on human trafficking in Holland since 70%+ of the Prostitutes are trafficked into the country.

 

[Modbert]

That kind of argument doesn't work in philosophy. You made the claim that prostitution causes human trafficking. You have to prove it. I don't have to prove the opposite. My argument is: You can't prove there is a connection between the two. You see, I never made the claim that there is no connection between human trafficking and prostitution. You made the claim that there IS. Show me a controlled experiment that shows cause and effect, and I will concede.

I'm trying to have a debate, you're playing semantics. Feel free to join the conversation when you feel like not trying to play trickster arguments in order to feel like you win when in fact you lose.

Holland = Legalized Prostitution and 70% of the Prostitutes are trafficked in.

Forgo, you lose. There is no such as a fucking controlled experiment because some people actually have value on the human life and not going to use Prostitutes as guinea pigs.

 

[elvis]

You ever hear of the fact that many don't use them already? And if you legalize Prostitution then you are opening the door for rampant Prostitution without condoms because then you'd force the Police and city to go around and make sure these guidelines are being followed.

How about the customers taking some responsibility for using condoms?

To show you why this does not partly work in some places.

Brothels forbid prostitutes to use condoms to prevent evidence - Haaretz - Israel News

And of course:

CBHD: Title - HIV and Prostitution: What’s the Answer?

The harm reduction approach is shortsighted, doomed to failure, and ethically lacking. It fails to recognize that many prostitutes are unable to negotiate condom use with their clients but often are forced to provide whatever services the client may want. In addition, it is common knowledge that prostitutes are often paid more if they agree to have sex without a condom. In fact, a study in Calcutta India found that prostitutes who regularly use condoms suffer a 79% reduction in their earnings over prostitutes who do not use condoms.1 A 79% loss of income is a huge motivator to forego the use of condoms!

Furthermore, advocating regular testing for sexually transmitted infections ignores the biological characteristic of latency. Latency refers to the fact that every type of infection—including sexually transmitted infections—has a period of time before it begins to manifest itself. In addition, for every test performed to identify a sexually transmitted infection there is a period of time between when the infection occurs and when the test will be able to detect it. This is called the “window period.” According to the CDC, for HIV testing, the usual window period is 4-6 weeks, but may be as long as 3 months.2

Even if a prostitute is being tested every week for HIV, she will test negative for at least the first 4-6 weeks and possibly the first 12 weeks after being infected. If we assume that he or she takes only 4 weeks to become positive, because there is an additional lag time of 1-2 weeks to get the results back, there will be at best a window period of 6 weeks for a prostitute. The average prostitute services between 10-15 clients per day. This means that while the test is becoming positive and the results are becoming known, that prostitute may expose up to 630 clients to HIV. This is under the best of circumstances with testing every week and a four-week window period. It also assumes that the prostitute will quit working as soon as he or she finds out the test is HIV positive, which is highly unlikely. This is not the best approach for actually reducing harm. Instead, in order to slow the global spread of HIV/AIDS we should focus our efforts on abolishing prostitution.

It's amazing, I'm posting link after link of clear evidence while all I get in return for answers is "what ifs" and sidetrack arguments which continue to change. I notice Elvis is no longer focusing on human trafficking in Holland since 70%+ of the Prostitutes are trafficked into the country.

again, you haven't shown cause and effect. I am waiting for you to do so.

 

[elvis]

That kind of argument doesn't work in philosophy. You made the claim that prostitution causes human trafficking. You have to prove it. I don't have to prove the opposite. My argument is: You can't prove there is a connection between the two. You see, I never made the claim that there is no connection between human trafficking and prostitution. You made the claim that there IS. Show me a controlled experiment that shows cause and effect, and I will concede.

I'm trying to have a debate, you're playing semantics. Feel free to join the conversation when you feel like not trying to play trickster arguments in order to feel like you win when in fact you lose.

Holland = Legalized Prostitution and 70% of the Prostitutes are trafficked in.

Forgo, you lose. There is no such as a fucking controlled experiment because some people actually have value on the human life and not going to use Prostitutes as guinea pigs.

Exactly. That is why you will never be able to show cause and effect for this issue. because hookers will never be used as guinea pigs. Thank you for proving my point.

It's not semantics. It's science. You CANNOT show cause and effect with an observational study. Admit that you can't show cause and effect between legal prostitution and human trafficking. That is all I am asking for.

 

[Anguille]

You ever hear of the fact that many don't use them already? And if you legalize Prostitution then you are opening the door for rampant Prostitution without condoms because then you'd force the Police and city to go around and make sure these guidelines are being followed.

How about the customers taking some responsibility for using condoms?

To show you why this does not partly work in some places.

Brothels forbid prostitutes to use condoms to prevent evidence - Haaretz - Israel News

And of course:

CBHD: Title - HIV and Prostitution: What’s the Answer?

The harm reduction approach is shortsighted, doomed to failure, and ethically lacking. It fails to recognize that many prostitutes are unable to negotiate condom use with their clients but often are forced to provide whatever services the client may want. In addition, it is common knowledge that prostitutes are often paid more if they agree to have sex without a condom. In fact, a study in Calcutta India found that prostitutes who regularly use condoms suffer a 79% reduction in their earnings over prostitutes who do not use condoms.1 A 79% loss of income is a huge motivator to forego the use of condoms!

Furthermore, advocating regular testing for sexually transmitted infections ignores the biological characteristic of latency. Latency refers to the fact that every type of infection—including sexually transmitted infections—has a period of time before it begins to manifest itself. In addition, for every test performed to identify a sexually transmitted infection there is a period of time between when the infection occurs and when the test will be able to detect it. This is called the “window period.” According to the CDC, for HIV testing, the usual window period is 4-6 weeks, but may be as long as 3 months.2

Even if a prostitute is being tested every week for HIV, she will test negative for at least the first 4-6 weeks and possibly the first 12 weeks after being infected. If we assume that he or she takes only 4 weeks to become positive, because there is an additional lag time of 1-2 weeks to get the results back, there will be at best a window period of 6 weeks for a prostitute. The average prostitute services between 10-15 clients per day. This means that while the test is becoming positive and the results are becoming known, that prostitute may expose up to 630 clients to HIV. This is under the best of circumstances with testing every week and a four-week window period. It also assumes that the prostitute will quit working as soon as he or she finds out the test is HIV positive, which is highly unlikely. This is not the best approach for actually reducing harm. Instead, in order to slow the global spread of HIV/AIDS we should focus our efforts on abolishing prostitution.

It's amazing, I'm posting link after link of clear evidence while all I get in return for answers is "what ifs" and sidetrack arguments which continue to change. I notice Elvis is no longer focusing on human trafficking in Holland since 70%+ of the Prostitutes are trafficked into the country.

Prostitutes are treated abominably the world over. That does not justify denying a woman the right to use her own body to earn a living.

Pimps and traffickers should be put out of business, not sex workers.

 

[elvis]

How about the customers taking some responsibility for using condoms?

To show you why this does not partly work in some places.

Brothels forbid prostitutes to use condoms to prevent evidence - Haaretz - Israel News

And of course:

CBHD: Title - HIV and Prostitution: What’s the Answer?

The harm reduction approach is shortsighted, doomed to failure, and ethically lacking. It fails to recognize that many prostitutes are unable to negotiate condom use with their clients but often are forced to provide whatever services the client may want. In addition, it is common knowledge that prostitutes are often paid more if they agree to have sex without a condom. In fact, a study in Calcutta India found that prostitutes who regularly use condoms suffer a 79% reduction in their earnings over prostitutes who do not use condoms.1 A 79% loss of income is a huge motivator to forego the use of condoms!

Furthermore, advocating regular testing for sexually transmitted infections ignores the biological characteristic of latency. Latency refers to the fact that every type of infection—including sexually transmitted infections—has a period of time before it begins to manifest itself. In addition, for every test performed to identify a sexually transmitted infection there is a period of time between when the infection occurs and when the test will be able to detect it. This is called the “window period.” According to the CDC, for HIV testing, the usual window period is 4-6 weeks, but may be as long as 3 months.2

Even if a prostitute is being tested every week for HIV, she will test negative for at least the first 4-6 weeks and possibly the first 12 weeks after being infected. If we assume that he or she takes only 4 weeks to become positive, because there is an additional lag time of 1-2 weeks to get the results back, there will be at best a window period of 6 weeks for a prostitute. The average prostitute services between 10-15 clients per day. This means that while the test is becoming positive and the results are becoming known, that prostitute may expose up to 630 clients to HIV. This is under the best of circumstances with testing every week and a four-week window period. It also assumes that the prostitute will quit working as soon as he or she finds out the test is HIV positive, which is highly unlikely. This is not the best approach for actually reducing harm. Instead, in order to slow the global spread of HIV/AIDS we should focus our efforts on abolishing prostitution.

It's amazing, I'm posting link after link of clear evidence while all I get in return for answers is "what ifs" and sidetrack arguments which continue to change. I notice Elvis is no longer focusing on human trafficking in Holland since 70%+ of the Prostitutes are trafficked into the country.

Prostitutes are treated abominably the world over. That does not justify denying a woman the right to use her own body to earn a living.

Pimps and traffickers should be put out of business, not sex workers.

agreed

 

[Modbert]

again, you haven't shown cause and effect. I am waiting for you to do so.

Just keep ignoring valid studies while you hold onto your delusions then Prostitute does not help human trafficking.

Prostitution in Five Countries

Bulgaria moves away from legalizing prostitution - International Herald Tribune

The anti-prostitution movement has received significant support due to the linkage between prostitution and human trafficking, an increasingly high-profile issue. According to the U.S. State Department, an estimated 800,000 people are trafficked across international borders each year, and four out of five are women. In December 2002, the United States adopted a policy against legalized prostitution, due to the link to trafficking.

"Legalizing prostitution creates a legitimate business front for the most brutal exploitation of women," said Mark Lagon, the U.S. ambassador-at-large to combat human trafficking. "It is the demand that draws a flow of people and a dark underground sex trafficking industry."

Bulgarian officials said that the flows of trafficked women from their country were directed chiefly to places in Western Europe like Germany and the Netherlands where prostitution is legal.

"The traffickers are very practical businessmen. They are going to the countries where the law is not suppressing them," said Antoaneta Vassileva, executive secretary of the national anti-trafficking commission here.

HumanTrafficking.org | News & Updates: Debating Legalized Prostitution

In the Netherlands, Germany, and Australia, legalization has failed to protect the women in prostitution, control the enormous expansion of the sex industry, decrease child prostitution and trafficking from other countries, and prevent HIV/AIDS -- all arguments used for legalization. And it has transformed these countries into brothels.

Legalization led to open season on prostituted women in the Netherlands. Organized crime took over the sex industry, and this is the main reason why 30 percent of the window brothels have recently been shutterd by the mayor of Amsterdam. Because they had become a haven for traffickers and unsafe for women, Amsterdam and Rotterdam have also closed down their tipplezones -- what some call tolerance zones, but in truth are out-and-out “sacrifice zones” where certain women can be bought and sold.

Germany’s legalized prostitution system has become a magnet for sexual exploiters, so much so that Germany has become the destination of choice in Europe for traffickers. Legalization in the State of Victoria in Australia has encouraged 3 times more illegal than legal brothels. Even the Australian Adult Entertainment Industry acknowledged that the illegal sex industry is out of control there. At the same time, many legal brothel owners have been involved in setting up and profiting from illegal brothels. “Customers” want more “exotic,” younger, cheaper women and those who can be induced not to use condoms. Victoria has the highest rates of child prostitution of all the states and territories in Australia.

Again, I think at this point I could smack you with all the evidence in the world and you'd still sit there willfully ignorant.

If you can't see the link between Human trafficking and Legalized Prostitution at this point then I suggest getting a new brain.

 

[elvis]

again, you haven't shown cause and effect. I am waiting for you to do so.

Just keep ignoring valid studies while you hold onto your delusions then Prostitute does not help human trafficking.

Prostitution in Five Countries

Bulgaria moves away from legalizing prostitution - International Herald Tribune

The anti-prostitution movement has received significant support due to the linkage between prostitution and human trafficking, an increasingly high-profile issue. According to the U.S. State Department, an estimated 800,000 people are trafficked across international borders each year, and four out of five are women. In December 2002, the United States adopted a policy against legalized prostitution, due to the link to trafficking.

"Legalizing prostitution creates a legitimate business front for the most brutal exploitation of women," said Mark Lagon, the U.S. ambassador-at-large to combat human trafficking. "It is the demand that draws a flow of people and a dark underground sex trafficking industry."

Bulgarian officials said that the flows of trafficked women from their country were directed chiefly to places in Western Europe like Germany and the Netherlands where prostitution is legal.

"The traffickers are very practical businessmen. They are going to the countries where the law is not suppressing them," said Antoaneta Vassileva, executive secretary of the national anti-trafficking commission here.

HumanTrafficking.org | News & Updates: Debating Legalized Prostitution

In the Netherlands, Germany, and Australia, legalization has failed to protect the women in prostitution, control the enormous expansion of the sex industry, decrease child prostitution and trafficking from other countries, and prevent HIV/AIDS -- all arguments used for legalization. And it has transformed these countries into brothels.

Legalization led to open season on prostituted women in the Netherlands. Organized crime took over the sex industry, and this is the main reason why 30 percent of the window brothels have recently been shutterd by the mayor of Amsterdam. Because they had become a haven for traffickers and unsafe for women, Amsterdam and Rotterdam have also closed down their tipplezones -- what some call tolerance zones, but in truth are out-and-out “sacrifice zones” where certain women can be bought and sold.

Germany’s legalized prostitution system has become a magnet for sexual exploiters, so much so that Germany has become the destination of choice in Europe for traffickers. Legalization in the State of Victoria in Australia has encouraged 3 times more illegal than legal brothels. Even the Australian Adult Entertainment Industry acknowledged that the illegal sex industry is out of control there. At the same time, many legal brothel owners have been involved in setting up and profiting from illegal brothels. “Customers” want more “exotic,” younger, cheaper women and those who can be induced not to use condoms. Victoria has the highest rates of child prostitution of all the states and territories in Australia.

Again, I think at this point I could smack you with all the evidence in the world and you'd still sit there willfully ignorant.

If you can't see the link between Human trafficking and Legalized Prostitution at this point then I suggest getting a new brain.

see my next post.

 

[Modbert]

That kind of argument doesn't work in philosophy. You made the claim that prostitution causes human trafficking. You have to prove it. I don't have to prove the opposite. My argument is: You can't prove there is a connection between the two. You see, I never made the claim that there is no connection between human trafficking and prostitution. You made the claim that there IS. Show me a controlled experiment that shows cause and effect, and I will concede.

I'm trying to have a debate, you're playing semantics. Feel free to join the conversation when you feel like not trying to play trickster arguments in order to feel like you win when in fact you lose.

Holland = Legalized Prostitution and 70% of the Prostitutes are trafficked in.

Forgo, you lose. There is no such as a fucking controlled experiment because some people actually have value on the human life and not going to use Prostitutes as guinea pigs.

Exactly. That is why you will never be able to show cause and effect for this issue. because hookers will never be used as guinea pigs. Thank you for proving my point.

It's not semantics. It's science. You CANNOT show cause and effect with an observational study. Admit that you can't show cause and effect between legal prostitution and human trafficking. That is all I am asking for.

Sure I can prove it, it's called the statistics in all these fucking countries. Look at the last post I just posted.

 

[elvis]

again, you haven't shown cause and effect. I am waiting for you to do so.

Just keep ignoring valid studies while you hold onto your delusions then Prostitute does not help human trafficking.

Prostitution in Five Countries

Bulgaria moves away from legalizing prostitution - International Herald Tribune

The anti-prostitution movement has received significant support due to the linkage between prostitution and human trafficking, an increasingly high-profile issue. According to the U.S. State Department, an estimated 800,000 people are trafficked across international borders each year, and four out of five are women. In December 2002, the United States adopted a policy against legalized prostitution, due to the link to trafficking.

"Legalizing prostitution creates a legitimate business front for the most brutal exploitation of women," said Mark Lagon, the U.S. ambassador-at-large to combat human trafficking. "It is the demand that draws a flow of people and a dark underground sex trafficking industry."

Bulgarian officials said that the flows of trafficked women from their country were directed chiefly to places in Western Europe like Germany and the Netherlands where prostitution is legal.

"The traffickers are very practical businessmen. They are going to the countries where the law is not suppressing them," said Antoaneta Vassileva, executive secretary of the national anti-trafficking commission here.

HumanTrafficking.org | News & Updates: Debating Legalized Prostitution

In the Netherlands, Germany, and Australia, legalization has failed to protect the women in prostitution, control the enormous expansion of the sex industry, decrease child prostitution and trafficking from other countries, and prevent HIV/AIDS -- all arguments used for legalization. And it has transformed these countries into brothels.

Legalization led to open season on prostituted women in the Netherlands. Organized crime took over the sex industry, and this is the main reason why 30 percent of the window brothels have recently been shutterd by the mayor of Amsterdam. Because they had become a haven for traffickers and unsafe for women, Amsterdam and Rotterdam have also closed down their tipplezones -- what some call tolerance zones, but in truth are out-and-out “sacrifice zones” where certain women can be bought and sold.

Germany’s legalized prostitution system has become a magnet for sexual exploiters, so much so that Germany has become the destination of choice in Europe for traffickers. Legalization in the State of Victoria in Australia has encouraged 3 times more illegal than legal brothels. Even the Australian Adult Entertainment Industry acknowledged that the illegal sex industry is out of control there. At the same time, many legal brothel owners have been involved in setting up and profiting from illegal brothels. “Customers” want more “exotic,” younger, cheaper women and those who can be induced not to use condoms. Victoria has the highest rates of child prostitution of all the states and territories in Australia.

Again, I think at this point I could smack you with all the evidence in the world and you'd still sit there willfully ignorant.

If you can't see the link between Human trafficking and Legalized Prostitution at this point then I suggest getting a new brain.

I am not asking for a link. I am asking for cause and effect, which you cannot show.

 

[elvis]

I'm trying to have a debate, you're playing semantics. Feel free to join the conversation when you feel like not trying to play trickster arguments in order to feel like you win when in fact you lose.

Holland = Legalized Prostitution and 70% of the Prostitutes are trafficked in.

Forgo, you lose. There is no such as a fucking controlled experiment because some people actually have value on the human life and not going to use Prostitutes as guinea pigs.

Exactly. That is why you will never be able to show cause and effect for this issue. because hookers will never be used as guinea pigs. Thank you for proving my point.

It's not semantics. It's science. You CANNOT show cause and effect with an observational study. Admit that you can't show cause and effect between legal prostitution and human trafficking. That is all I am asking for.

Sure I can prove it, it's called the statistics in all these fucking countries. Look at the last post I just posted.

None of which used controlled experiments.

 

[elvis]

That's their problem.

No, that's our problem. That's our money that goes towards such things. And of course, police officers time and resources spent which could of been used on much more severe crimes while not having to waste their time to make sure that none of the prostitutes are children because we just had to legalize it.

And let me guess Elvis, you're going to tax Prostitution too?

Yes, I would tax prostitution, it's income. Why wouldn't we? And how much time to cops spend breaking up prostitution rings?

 

[Modbert]

I am not asking for a link. I am asking for cause and effect, which you cannot show.

I have proven a cause and effect.

Cause: Prostitution is legalized in X country.

Effect: Human trafficking becomes worse in that country and one of the worst spots in the world.

Examples: Holland, Thailand, the city of Victoria, Australia, etc.

Whether you care to admit it or not, places that have Legalization of Prostitution have BY FAR higher numbers for both child prostitution and overall human trafficking then places who have it abolished. That is a fact, whether you care to admit it or not.

 

[elvis]

I am not asking for a link. I am asking for cause and effect, which you cannot show.

I have proven a cause and effect.

Cause: Prostitution is legalized in X country.

Effect: Human trafficking becomes worse in that country and one of the worst spots in the world.

Examples: Holland, Thailand, the city of Victoria, Australia, etc.

Whether you care to admit it or not, places that have Legalization of Prostitution have BY FAR higher numbers for both child prostitution and overall human trafficking then places who have it abolished. That is a fact, whether you care to admit it or not.

you haven't shown cause and effect without a controlled experiment. Just admit that.

 

[elvis]

I am not asking for a link. I am asking for cause and effect, which you cannot show.

I have proven a cause and effect.

Cause: Prostitution is legalized in X country.

Effect: Human trafficking becomes worse in that country and one of the worst spots in the world.

Examples: Holland, Thailand, the city of Victoria, Australia, etc.

Whether you care to admit it or not, places that have Legalization of Prostitution have BY FAR higher numbers for both child prostitution and overall human trafficking then places who have it abolished. That is a fact, whether you care to admit it or not.

The numbers may be higher, but it is too easy for confounding variables to skew the data. That is why controlled experiments which use random assignment must be used to show cause and effect.

 

[Modbert]

I am not asking for a link. I am asking for cause and effect, which you cannot show.

I have proven a cause and effect.

Cause: Prostitution is legalized in X country.

Effect: Human trafficking becomes worse in that country and one of the worst spots in the world.

Examples: Holland, Thailand, the city of Victoria, Australia, etc.

Whether you care to admit it or not, places that have Legalization of Prostitution have BY FAR higher numbers for both child prostitution and overall human trafficking then places who have it abolished. That is a fact, whether you care to admit it or not.

The numbers may be higher, but it is too easy for confounding variables to skew the data. That is why controlled experiments which use random assignment must be used to show cause and effect.

Show me a controlled experiment that states otherwise to what I stated.

Meanwhile, I googled what you asked to see if there was such a thing.

The legalisation experiment : Victoria [in: Working girls : prostitutes, their life and social control]

THAT VICTORIA AUSTRALIA.

And with that, check and mate.