Civil Right or State Right?

[FuelRod]

Gay Marriage, a civil right or a state right? Civil Rights need to be Federally protected. The President doesn't think Gay marriage is.
What say you?

 

[Seawytch]

Then the President is wrong. Civil Right.

 

[SniperFire]

Neither. Privilege of the State.

 

[Oddball]

"Civil rights" are merely special carve-outs for certain politically protected identity groups, granted from on high to the proles in those groups.

Marriage falls under the Article 1, Section 10 right to contract, which isn't granted to the hoi polloy by the state but is an inherent natural right.

In essence, the state marriage license isn't a contract between the principals being joined, but between that couple and the state....It's a defacto waiver from polygamy laws.

 

[FuelRod]

Neither. Privilege of the State.

That is what I meant by State Right. Thank you for clarification.

 

[naturegirl]

This should not even be a government issue at a Federal or State level...........leave people's bedrooms to them.

Let's talk about real issues, like the economy, K??

 

[FuelRod]

hoi polloy

Where did you just come from a scotch ad?

 

[JWBooth]

"Civil rights" are merely special carve-outs for certain politically protected identity groups, granted from on high to the proles in those groups.

Marriage falls under the Article 1, Section 10 right to contract, which isn't granted to the hoi polloy by the state but is an inherent natural right.

In essence, the state marriage license isn't a contract between the principals being joined, but between that couple and the state....It's a defacto waiver from polygamy laws.

There never should have been state involvement in regulating the personal relationships between two adults from the beginning.

 

[Oddball]

Hey, Cary Grant, wanna get high?

 

[SniperFire]

Neither. Privilege of the State.

That is what I meant by State Right. Thank you for clarification.

You mean small 'r', as in a State's right to set the privledge in this instance.

Civil rights related to the big 'R' rights as in those our Christian Libertarian Founders explicitedly determined to be granted to mankind by our Creator.

 

[SniperFire]

"Civil rights" are merely special carve-outs for certain politically protected identity groups, granted from on high to the proles in those groups.

Marriage falls under the Article 1, Section 10 right to contract, which isn't granted to the hoi polloy by the state but is an inherent natural right.

In essence, the state marriage license isn't a contract between the principals being joined, but between that couple and the state....It's a defacto waiver from polygamy laws.

There never should have been state involvement in regulating the personal relationships between two adults from the beginning.

Such a place has never existed in civilization.

 

[JWBooth]

This should not even be a government issue at a Federal or State level...........leave people's bedrooms to them.

Let's talk about real issues, like the economy, K??

'zackly. This is nothing more than a bright & shiny to distract the simple from the larger issue of the growth of the leviathan state.

I understand them desperately wanting sanction for their lives by someone, anyone, and that they would jump at the chance for even a little recognition.
I think they should disdain the official government "permission" to be who they are and what they are.

 

[OldUSAFSniper]

Definately NOT a civil right. Not a protected right. It is definately a 'state's rights' issue to be decided at the state level.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

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