CIA Agent: "The Government Has Lied To The American People Since 9/11"

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    You've been lying to us every since you started posting here.
     
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    What a fucking whackjob.
     
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    He probably knows more about Osama bin Laden and the al-Qaeda network than any other American who has served as a government employee.

    Some of the solutions he suggests to our problems combating terrorism I strongly disagree with, but in terms of his simple analysis and recitation of fact, there's probably not a more reliable and knowledgeable source on the subject willing to talk about it publicly.

    What is it he said that you find so whackjob-y?
     
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    If anyone didn't watch the video and is judging it on thread title alone, he's not by any means a "Truther" in the "inside job" sense which the title could mislead one to believe this is about. Instead Scheuer thinks (for quite good reason he has justified and sourced extensively including amply from his own personal experience as the head of Alec Station and as a key witness before the 9/11 Commission) that the government and intelligence community has attempted to sweep its incredible negligence and failure under the rug, misrepresented who al-Qaeda is and what they're after to the American people, and responded to Islamic terrorism in the most boneheaded and counterproductive way imaginable.

    For anyone who doesn't know, this isn't just any former CIA agent, but the CIA's top bin Laden specialist. "Scheuer was formerly an intelligence officer at the Central Intelligence Agency. In his 22-year career, he served as the Chief of the Bin Laden Issue Station (aka "Alec Station"), from 1996 to 1999, the Osama bin Laden tracking unit at the Counterterrorist Center. He then worked again as Special Advisor to the Chief of the bin Laden unit from September 2001 to November 2004.

    After leaving the CIA in 2004, Scheuer worked as a news analyst for CBS News and a terrorism analyst for The Jamestown Foundation's online publication Global Terrorism Analysis. He also makes radio and television appearances and teaches a graduate-level course on Al-Qaeda at Georgetown University. He also participates in conferences on terrorism and national security issues, such as the New America Foundation's December 2004 conference, "Al Qaeda 2.0: Transnational Terrorism After 9/11."
     
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    This is an informative video that every American needs to see.
     
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    Gee according to the twoofers; no expert testified before the Commission so I'm guessing he's not an expert on this one narrow subject at all...or the twoofers are full of shit. I'm guessing he's an expert of this one narrow subject AND all twoofers are idiots.

    Let us know when he blames the Jews again.
     
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    "Twoofers" (Truthers?) are mostly full of shit. He is an expert on the rather broad and incredibly pertinent (is anything more pertinent to this matter) subject of Islamic terrorism, al-Qaeda, and Osama bin Laden.

    I disagree with some of his proposed solutions to the problems he identifies (he's quite hawkish) but the problems he identifies are very real and his analysis is incredibly valuable, there's no good reason to dismiss it outright beyond putting your fingers in your ears at what you don't want to hear.
     
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    So how many Jews does he claim are behind it?
     
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    You have no idea who this guy is, do you?

    He is not and has never been anything remotely resembling a Truther. He thinks Saudi hijackers with box-cutters took over planes and used them as kamikaze missiles. He thinks they were in al-Qaeda. He agrees about the standard official story. He doesn't think Jews or Israel or Cheney or whatever is behind it. You have zero reason to think that, you're making it up.

    He just, in his capacity as the CIA's point man on bin Laden, knows the government fucked up big time and did a terrible job assessing the risk and then especially responding to what they did know in an appropriate manner. He knows how negligent and irresponsible they were in not preventing the attacks long before they happened, which is what their job entails, and he thinks the government did a lot of CYA in the Commission Report and has not truly addressed the faults in how the intelligence community operates since 9/11 in order to better protect ourselves.

    What part of that makes him a whack job exactly or are you just spouting nonsense?
     

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