Church Sign Against Koran Angers Some

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    Let me begin by saying I disagree with the sign. I do not think that destroying another religion's holy book is what Christianity is all about.

    That being said...

    Isn't the United States all about freedom...religious freedom included? We are told that we must seperate church and state...that churches are allowed to believe what they want...just so long as it remains seperate from the state?

    So other than being in poor taste, mean to certain people...shouldn't this church be able to post whatever it wants on its sign...and if you don't like it you can choose not to read it (isn't that what liberals always say about the sex and violence on tv?), drive another way to work, stop going to that church, or write letters to the minister who posted it?

    The article quotes a Muslim woman:

    She felt angry...thats fine, shes allowed to feel angry in the US. Shes allowed to be completely pissed. Many Catholics were angry when a prime-time television show made a joke out of flushing the eucharist down the toilet...many Christians are pissed off at being stereotyped as stupid hicks...she now can join the huge number of religious Americans who are pissed off....it doesn't mean that Hollywood can't make a joke out of flushing the eucharist...nor does it mean a Baptist preacher can't say the Koran should be flushed.

    As far as threatened...this is a liberal buzz-word. Has she ACTUALLY been threatened by someone? If so, that person should be arrested and charged with a crime. If not, then too bad...you don't have the right to not be offended in this country.



    Tolerance....I think that this sign is ENTIRELY about tolerance. Christians tolerated the Holy Bible being used as toilet paper by terrorists, by the desecration of the Church of the Nativity AND Joseph's Tomb. Buddists have tolerated the destruction of their holy sites. People all over the world have tolerated terrorist attacks committed by Muslim fanatics based upon the "teachings" of their Holy Koran....perhaps the Baptist minister is fed up with being tolerant...it sure didn't save the 3000 people who died in the 9/11 attacks...nor did it save the 16 people who died because Muslims didn't follow the "tolerance" Riley is asking for.



    Our society TOLERATES "Piss Christ," and "Dung Virgin," pieces of art that defile and desecrate sacred Christian images for shock value and to insult the Christian faith and Christians everywhere...all of this in the name of Freedom of Speech and Expression....yet for HER religion...we should change all the rules...forgoe the freedoms that supposedly make this society great...why? Because HER sacred items are somehow more sacred then ours?


    I'm offended...therefore flush the 1st Amendment to the Constitution down the toilet (pun very much intended).


    This woman, and others like her, need to GET A GRIP. This is the United States...I get to do things that drive you absolutely crazy...I get to say things that make your blood boil...and you have to either put up with it...or walk away. Yes, it sounds unfair...but you get to do the same thing to me.

    My advice to Seema Riley is to stop whining...rent a sign and ask the neighbor across the street from the church if you can put it up directly across from the Baptist Church's sign...it can say anything you like...as long as the property owner agrees..."We need tolerance!" "Don't threaten and intimidate Muslims!" "Flush the Bible!" "This minister is a big poopie head!" Whatever you want, I don't care...just stop asking us to forgoe our freedoms because you can not tolerate someone who doesn't blindly accept everything you do.
     
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    And they'll be totally surprised if a muslim were to destroy the sign, or go beyond that and burn the church. This guy is one of the few Christians who give all Christians a bad name. Instead of defending it, why don't you write to this preacher and tell him why it was a bad idea?
     
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    So much for free speech, eh. That sign, in my opinion, is no justification for acts of violence on any Muslim's part.

    I suppose if we extend the logic you portray in your post, it would be justifiable for a few fellas to get together and burn down a mosque because they preach the destruction of the US .....
     
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    Rather un-Christian of the good Pastor...Don't you think? And, dear, it wsn't courage that led him to post his sign. It was simply willful, unabshed ignorance.
     
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    And, unfortunately, it is such Christians who have the ear of the President and Congress.
     
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    What if the sign said:

    "You don't need to wear a little black hat to worship our God"

    or

    "You don't need to face a certain way to worship our God"

    or

    "Forget the little beads, come worship with us"

    What about those?
     
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    They would be offensive of course---only Christianity can be condemned for it's actions--other religions get a free pass for now
     
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    Ohhh..that's right.

    Geez...what was I thinking.
     
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    And again, what makes you an expert on courage?
     

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