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How about, "Hello Ms CON$ervative, I have some INFORMATION on a product you might be interested in."ok... I'm confused...
You are against the use of automated systems to call cell phones, right?
HR 3035 'continues' the previous prohibition of automated systems calling cell phones.
What am I missing here? How would continuing the prohibition allow MORE cell phone calls from telemarketers and such?
It's a "cute" workaround.
H.R. 3035 would modernize the TCPA by:
- Exempting informational calls from the restriction on auto-dialer and
artificial/prerecorded voice calls to wireless numbers;
you're 'assuming' that companies will try to argue that an informational call (hi, someone may have breached your account, Mr. Sallow) can be used to sell something (hi, someone may have breached your account, Mr. Sallow... oh, btw, would you like a time share in Vegas, cheap?) as long as the main purpose was informational.
I think you're stretching it a tad.
For folks who have plans where they have to pay for each incoming call, this bill would be a good idea.
For those who don't have to worry about it, take care of it yourself with the Do Not Call list.
How about, "Hello Ms CON$ervative, I have some INFORMATION on a product you might be interested in."It's a "cute" workaround.
you're 'assuming' that companies will try to argue that an informational call (hi, someone may have breached your account, Mr. Sallow) can be used to sell something (hi, someone may have breached your account, Mr. Sallow... oh, btw, would you like a time share in Vegas, cheap?) as long as the main purpose was informational.
I think you're stretching it a tad.
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How bizarre is it that there probably isn't one rightwing nut on this board who wants to get his cellphone bombarded with telemarketing calls, but most of them will turn around and support this just because the Democrats oppose it.
You people are mentally deranged.
In any case, we get bombarded with advertising on TV, in Movies, in the mail, on billboards and many other places. [why] can't one thing...a service you PAY for..be exempt from that bullshit?
Eh?
How bizarre is it that there probably isn't one rightwing nut on this board who wants to get his cellphone bombarded with telemarketing calls, but most of them will turn around and support this just because the Democrats oppose it.
You people are mentally deranged.
Yeap the old habits die hard with the real entrenched hacks.
The softening Marc posted of doesnt reach some.
They will scratch and claw at anyone about anything if there is a D label on it.
Since limited government is part of the foundation of my political beliefs, as I said (and as the Founders designed), laws are supposed to limit the least number of individuals as possible while still protecting the few who are being oppressed.For folks who have plans where they have to pay for each incoming call, this bill would be a good idea.
For those who don't have to worry about it, take care of it yourself with the Do Not Call list.
I registered for the "Do Not Call" list and still got calls. And when I got calls from humans I asked them why I was getting calls if I was registered..and they replied that it took months for them to get names..or some other lame ass excuse.
In any case, we get bombarded with advertising on TV, in Movies, in the mail, on billboards and many other places. One can't one thing...a service you PAY for..be exempt from that bullshit?
Eh?
) can write a law as our Founders intended them to be written - to restrict the fewest number of individuals as possible while protecting the minority from being oppressed.
And when they call your cell phone you say:
"Please take me off your call list" then hang up. No Senator needed! How hard is that?
Guess what? THAT DOESN'T WORK.
It's worked for me. I have never had a telemarketer call my cell phone.
In any case, we get bombarded with advertising on TV, in Movies, in the mail, on billboards and many other places. [why] can't one thing...a service you PAY for..be exempt from that bullshit?
Eh?
Because corporations own government.
And the irony is the right accuses the left of having too much trust in government, the left accuses the right of having too much trust in corporations, and the reality is both sides have too much trust in the same damn thing.
But whatcha gonna do?
Since limited government is part of the foundation of my political beliefs, as I said (and as the Founders designed), laws are supposed to limit the least number of individuals as possible while still protecting the few who are being oppressed.For folks who have plans where they have to pay for each incoming call, this bill would be a good idea.
For those who don't have to worry about it, take care of it yourself with the Do Not Call list.
I registered for the "Do Not Call" list and still got calls. And when I got calls from humans I asked them why I was getting calls if I was registered..and they replied that it took months for them to get names..or some other lame ass excuse.
In any case, we get bombarded with advertising on TV, in Movies, in the mail, on billboards and many other places. One can't one thing...a service you PAY for..be exempt from that bullshit?
Eh?
So, I'm sure our legislators who are rarely at a loss for words (exclude Perry
In any case, we get bombarded with advertising on TV, in Movies, in the mail, on billboards and many other places. [why] can't one thing...a service you PAY for..be exempt from that bullshit?
Eh?
Because corporations own government.
And the irony is the right accuses the left of having too much trust in government, the left accuses the right of having too much trust in corporations, and the reality is both sides have too much trust in the same damn thing.
But whatcha gonna do?
It's an incremental thing. The right is whole hog for corporations, the left is 3/4 hog for corporations but saves 1/4 hog for everyone else.
1/4 hog for me is better then none.
But whatcha gonna do?
Guess what? THAT DOESN'T WORK.
It's worked for me. I have never had a telemarketer call my cell phone.
hahahahahahaha
because they cant, the new law will make it so they can
My cell is on the do not call list and I still get robo calls. Nonprofits are exempt, so a "nonprofit" calls to "inform" me that there is a program to help me with my mortgage. The "nonprofit" then refers me to for profit lawyers. Needless to say I don't have a mortgage, I own my house free and clear, but that hasn't stopped them from wasting my monthly minutes.For folks who have plans where they have to pay for each incoming call, this bill would be a good idea.
For those who don't have to worry about it, take care of it yourself with the Do Not Call list.
I registered for the "Do Not Call" list and still got calls. And when I got calls from humans I asked them why I was getting calls if I was registered..and they replied that it took months for them to get names..or some other lame ass excuse.
In any case, we get bombarded with advertising on TV, in Movies, in the mail, on billboards and many other places. One can't one thing...a service you PAY for..be exempt from that bullshit?
Eh?
Because corporations own government.
And the irony is the right accuses the left of having too much trust in government, the left accuses the right of having too much trust in corporations, and the reality is both sides have too much trust in the same damn thing.
But whatcha gonna do?
It's an incremental thing. The right is whole hog for corporations, the left is 3/4 hog for corporations but saves 1/4 hog for everyone else.
1/4 hog for me is better then none.
But whatcha gonna do?
Hog?
Who said anything specifically about WillowTree?
OK. I don't understand why the press reported that this bill would allow telemarketers to call cell phones. That is not true.Is there anything republicans do that isn't just plain evil?
United States Senator Charles Schumer, Of New York, Trying To Block Mobile Information Call Act From Allowing Telemarketers To Call Cell Phones « CBS New York
NEW YORK (WCBS 880) Sen. Charles Schumer says hell do everything he can stop a bill in the House of Representatives that would allow telemarketers to flood personal cell phones.
Theres nothing more intrusive than telemarketers calling in the middle of dinner or when youre in the middle of a heavy conversation with somebody, Schumer says.
I got rid of my land line because of telemarketers and robocalls.
OK. I don't understand why the press reported that this bill would allow telemarketers to call cell phones. That is not true.Is there anything republicans do that isn't just plain evil?
United States Senator Charles Schumer, Of New York, Trying To Block Mobile Information Call Act From Allowing Telemarketers To Call Cell Phones « CBS New York
NEW YORK (WCBS 880) Sen. Charles Schumer says hell do everything he can stop a bill in the House of Representatives that would allow telemarketers to flood personal cell phones.
Theres nothing more intrusive than telemarketers calling in the middle of dinner or when youre in the middle of a heavy conversation with somebody, Schumer says.
I got rid of my land line because of telemarketers and robocalls.
H.R. 3035
(a) In General- Section 227(b)(1)(A) of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 227(b)(1)(A)) is amended to read as follows:
(A) to make any call (other than a call made for emergency purposes or made with the prior express consent of the called party) using any automatic telephone dialing system or an artificial or prerecorded voice--
(i) to any emergency telephone line (including any 911 line and any emergency line of a hospital, medical physician or service office, health care facility, poison control center, or fire protection or law enforcement agency);
(ii) to the telephone line of any guest room or patient room of a hospital, health care facility, elderly home, or similar establishment;
(iii) to any telephone number assigned to a paging service; or
(iv) to any telephone number assigned to a cellular telephone service, specialized mobile radio service, or other radio common carrier service, or any service for which the called party is charged for the call, unless the call is made for a commercial purpose that does not constitute a telephone solicitation;.
(b) Conforming Amendment- Section 227(b)(2)(C) of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 227(b)(2)(C)) is amended by striking paragraph (1)(A)(iii) and inserting paragraph (1)(A)(iv).
(c) Technical Correction- Section 227(b)(1) of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 227(b)(1)) is amended by striking It shall and all that follows through United States-- and inserting the following: It shall be unlawful for any person within the United States, or any person outside the United States if the recipient is within the United States--.
So, what is the problem? Telemarketers still will not be able to call your cell phone.
I even bought into it, then it just kept getting fishier, so I checked.OK. I don't understand why the press reported that this bill would allow telemarketers to call cell phones. That is not true.Is there anything republicans do that isn't just plain evil?
United States Senator Charles Schumer, Of New York, Trying To Block Mobile Information Call Act From Allowing Telemarketers To Call Cell Phones « CBS New York
I got rid of my land line because of telemarketers and robocalls.
H.R. 3035
(a) In General- Section 227(b)(1)(A) of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 227(b)(1)(A)) is amended to read as follows:
(A) to make any call (other than a call made for emergency purposes or made with the prior express consent of the called party) using any automatic telephone dialing system or an artificial or prerecorded voice--
(i) to any emergency telephone line (including any 911 line and any emergency line of a hospital, medical physician or service office, health care facility, poison control center, or fire protection or law enforcement agency);
(ii) to the telephone line of any guest room or patient room of a hospital, health care facility, elderly home, or similar establishment;
(iii) to any telephone number assigned to a paging service; or
(iv) to any telephone number assigned to a cellular telephone service, specialized mobile radio service, or other radio common carrier service, or any service for which the called party is charged for the call, unless the call is made for a commercial purpose that does not constitute a telephone solicitation;.
(b) Conforming Amendment- Section 227(b)(2)(C) of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 227(b)(2)(C)) is amended by striking paragraph (1)(A)(iii) and inserting paragraph (1)(A)(iv).
(c) Technical Correction- Section 227(b)(1) of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 227(b)(1)) is amended by striking It shall and all that follows through United States-- and inserting the following: It shall be unlawful for any person within the United States, or any person outside the United States if the recipient is within the United States--.
So, what is the problem? Telemarketers still will not be able to call your cell phone.
The left needs something to lie about. They have nothing else.
OK. I don't understand why the press reported that this bill would allow telemarketers to call cell phones. That is not true.Is there anything republicans do that isn't just plain evil?
United States Senator Charles Schumer, Of New York, Trying To Block Mobile Information Call Act From Allowing Telemarketers To Call Cell Phones « CBS New York
NEW YORK (WCBS 880) Sen. Charles Schumer says hell do everything he can stop a bill in the House of Representatives that would allow telemarketers to flood personal cell phones.
Theres nothing more intrusive than telemarketers calling in the middle of dinner or when youre in the middle of a heavy conversation with somebody, Schumer says.
I got rid of my land line because of telemarketers and robocalls.
H.R. 3035
(a) In General- Section 227(b)(1)(A) of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 227(b)(1)(A)) is amended to read as follows:
(A) to make any call (other than a call made for emergency purposes or made with the prior express consent of the called party) using any automatic telephone dialing system or an artificial or prerecorded voice--
(i) to any emergency telephone line (including any 911 line and any emergency line of a hospital, medical physician or service office, health care facility, poison control center, or fire protection or law enforcement agency);
(ii) to the telephone line of any guest room or patient room of a hospital, health care facility, elderly home, or similar establishment;
(iii) to any telephone number assigned to a paging service; or
(iv) to any telephone number assigned to a cellular telephone service, specialized mobile radio service, or other radio common carrier service, or any service for which the called party is charged for the call, unless the call is made for a commercial purpose that does not constitute a telephone solicitation;.
(b) Conforming Amendment- Section 227(b)(2)(C) of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 227(b)(2)(C)) is amended by striking paragraph (1)(A)(iii) and inserting paragraph (1)(A)(iv).
(c) Technical Correction- Section 227(b)(1) of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 227(b)(1)) is amended by striking It shall and all that follows through United States-- and inserting the following: It shall be unlawful for any person within the United States, or any person outside the United States if the recipient is within the United States--.
So, what is the problem? Telemarketers still will not be able to call your cell phone.
