Chu To Take Fall For Solyndra: No Jail Time

[C_Clayton_Jones]

LOL. Only 1/2 a billion? Peanuts, just ask Bushie baby and Darth Cheney. Look at the amount Haliburton got away with, then moved their company to Dubai.

In the Orwellian world of the right, money wasted on war is good.

 

[naturegirl]

Thank you Dittoheads/Foxbots/Moonies for all the premature BS. Turns out Sol. is the only one of 38 solar projects to go out of business, the e mail's warning was about a situation that never happened, there's no evidence of any political input, solar panels price went down 70% (very unexpectedly), and everthing you know is BS Pub propaganda. Change the channel, shytteheads...and crappy citizens to boot...Heil Rev. Moon!! This too will blow over in no time to be added to the Pub BS list of scandals with no basis in fact. MORONS!!

Ohhh, not so fast there Frankie!!

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Beacon Power, like Solyndra, was one of the first loans to close under the Department of Energy’s 1705 loan guarantee program. Now, much like the failed solar panel manufacturer, the Massachusetts-based flywheel storage company has filed for bankruptcy protection and set off another ripple in the growing controversy over the federal program.

On Sunday, Beacon Power, which received a $43 million loan guarantee to support the construction of a 20-megawatt flywheel energy storage plant in Stephentown, N.Y., filed for Chapter 11. The flywheel technology at the New York facility was used for load leveling. Essentially, grid operators could dump power into the storage plant when they had too much and pull it back out when they needed more. It remains unclear what will happen to the facility or the technology inside the plant following the bankruptcy.

Second DOE Loan Recipient Files for Bankruptcy | Renewable Energy News Article

 

[freedombecki]

LOL. Only 1/2 a billion? Peanuts, just ask Bushie baby and Darth Cheney. Look at the amount Haliburton got away with, then moved their company to Dubai.

In the Orwellian world of the right, money wasted on war is good.

It's only wasted when the Dems pull the rug out from under the new leaders in still-unstable areas, and you know it too, don't you.

 

[francoHFW]

Thank you Dittoheads/Foxbots/Moonies for all the premature BS. Turns out Sol. is the only one of 38 solar projects to go out of business, the e mail's warning was about a situation that never happened, there's no evidence of any political input, solar panels price went down 70% (very unexpectedly), and everthing you know is BS Pub propaganda. Change the channel, shytteheads...and crappy citizens to boot...Heil Rev. Moon!! This too will blow over in no time to be added to the Pub BS list of scandals with no basis in fact. MORONS!!

You still aimin' that flotilla at Americans, franco? lol

And I've read extensively on Solyndra.

It's one of Obama's trillion-dollar taxpayer boondoggle businesses granted guarantees through his hopey-changey quid pro quo ripoff schema masquerading as business interests.

You know how I know? I know by how many people like Rahm Emanuel have already "forgotten" about emails that would put anyone else behind bars, that's how I know.

And there's no need for the ad hominems. We're liable to pay for Obama and his one-upmanship over the American taxpayers. He can't, because he's busy feathering his own nest and those of 2,000 other people he's giving out half-billion dollar payouts to other than Solyndra.

He's using the U.S. Treasury for his repayment piggy bank to people who supported buying his campaign for him in 2008. That's gonna end now.

Hanky?

You read a lot of BS Pub propaganda from Murdoch, Rev. Moon, and the Koch Bros. You are clueless and basically a Pub dupe conspiracy theorist...

 

[freedombecki]

Thank you Dittoheads/Foxbots/Moonies for all the premature BS. Turns out Sol. is the only one of 38 solar projects to go out of business, the e mail's warning was about a situation that never happened, there's no evidence of any political input, solar panels price went down 70% (very unexpectedly), and everthing you know is BS Pub propaganda. Change the channel, shytteheads...and crappy citizens to boot...Heil Rev. Moon!! This too will blow over in no time to be added to the Pub BS list of scandals with no basis in fact. MORONS!!

You still aimin' that flotilla at Americans, franco? lol

And I've read extensively on Solyndra.

It's one of Obama's trillion-dollar taxpayer boondoggle businesses granted guarantees through his hopey-changey quid pro quo ripoff schema masquerading as business interests.

You know how I know? I know by how many people like Rahm Emanuel have already "forgotten" about emails that would put anyone else behind bars, that's how I know.

And there's no need for the ad hominems. We're liable to pay for Obama and his one-upmanship over the American taxpayers. He can't, because he's busy feathering his own nest and those of 2,000 other people he's giving out half-billion dollar payouts to other than Solyndra.

He's using the U.S. Treasury for his repayment piggy bank to people who supported buying his campaign for him in 2008. That's gonna end now.

Hanky?

You read a lot of BS Pub propaganda from Murdoch, Rev. Moon, and the Koch Bros. You are clueless and basically a Pub dupe conspiracy theorist...

Sorry sweetkakes, I read your post and came up with that. What are you swilling mixed in with that Koolade?

 

[JoeB131]

LOL. Only 1/2 a billion? Peanuts, just ask Bushie baby and Darth Cheney. Look at the amount Haliburton got away with, then moved their company to Dubai.

We either get serious about competeing on solar with China, or we give them the whole of the technology. Along the way their will be bad investments. Solyandra was one of them. There will be more. However, they are not killing our soldiers with incompetant contractors, and feeding them contaminated water and food as Haliburton did, with you fellows cheering the whole way.

It's obvious by this statement that you've never served in the military and have no understanding of military history.

In World War II. The US took 291,000 combat deaths and 113,000 non-combat deaths, including soldiers who died of poor sanitation, diseases, etc. In WWI, non-combat deaths actually eclipsed combat deaths. YOu take a person out of his environment, and put him somewhere else, they are going to be subject to local germs, contaminations, etc. That's why they tell you to "not drink the water" when you go to other countries. Those people are used to the germs, you aren't.

Was on a training mission with the National Guard once in the 1980's. Some idiot weekend warrior didn't clean out a water trailer properly. As a result, half the company got dissentary and severe diarhea.

Now, on to Solyndra. The problem is that this wasn't based on sound economic reasoning, it was done on emotionalism. We all love Solar energy, man. It's renewable, we get it for free, we can tell them Arabs where to stick it. I've heard this song sung since the 1970's. And it never happens, because it isn't practical.

 

[Sallow]

Ah, so you guys are looking to stop the practice of government/private industry investments? Or just this particular one so that Obama can be impeached.

 

[Sallow]

LOL. Only 1/2 a billion? Peanuts, just ask Bushie baby and Darth Cheney. Look at the amount Haliburton got away with, then moved their company to Dubai.

We either get serious about competeing on solar with China, or we give them the whole of the technology. Along the way their will be bad investments. Solyandra was one of them. There will be more. However, they are not killing our soldiers with incompetant contractors, and feeding them contaminated water and food as Haliburton did, with you fellows cheering the whole way.

It's obvious by this statement that you've never served in the military and have no understanding of military history.

In World War II. The US took 291,000 combat deaths and 113,000 non-combat deaths, including soldiers who died of poor sanitation, diseases, etc. In WWI, non-combat deaths actually eclipsed combat deaths. YOu take a person out of his environment, and put him somewhere else, they are going to be subject to local germs, contaminations, etc. That's why they tell you to "not drink the water" when you go to other countries. Those people are used to the germs, you aren't.

Was on a training mission with the National Guard once in the 1980's. Some idiot weekend warrior didn't clean out a water trailer properly. As a result, half the company got dissentary and severe diarhea.

Now, on to Solyndra. The problem is that this wasn't based on sound economic reasoning, it was done on emotionalism. We all love Solar energy, man. It's renewable, we get it for free, we can tell them Arabs where to stick it. I've heard this song sung since the 1970's. And it never happens, because it isn't practical.

No it wasn't. Solar energy is about the only product right now that the US is tops in the world in terms of tech. And we are exporting it. This was a "gamble" like so many private/government investments. And compared to some really big failures with military tech "gambles", this is small potatoes.

Where's the investigations into them?

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL. Only 1/2 a billion? Peanuts, just ask Bushie baby and Darth Cheney. Look at the amount Haliburton got away with, then moved their company to Dubai.

We either get serious about competeing on solar with China, or we give them the whole of the technology. Along the way their will be bad investments. Solyandra was one of them. There will be more. However, they are not killing our soldiers with incompetant contractors, and feeding them contaminated water and food as Haliburton did, with you fellows cheering the whole way.

Halliburton is not going bankrupt and has delivered many services to the American people as requested by several administrations, including the Obama administration while under fire from terrorists.

Here's the latest on Halliburton headquarters which I just bingd:

"Halliburton's headquarters (North Belt office) are located in Harris County, in northern Houston, Texas, near George H.W. Bush Intercontinental Airport. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton"

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You been drinkin' way too much koolaid at Huff and Puff Post, etc.

Really? Strange, maybe in your alternative universe.

Halliburton to move headquarters to Dubai - MarketWatch

By MarketWatch
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Halliburton Co. will move its corporate headquarters from Houston to Dubai, the company announced Sunday.

Halliburton /quotes/zigman/228631/quotes/nls/hal HAL +2.24% , once run by Vice President Dick Cheney, plans to maintain a corporate office in Houston, but the company will be run from its new headquarters in the United Arab Emirates.

The oilfield services giant said its chief executive, Dave Lesar, will move his office to the Middle East to lead Halliburton's growth efforts in the region. The shift is part of a strategic plan to focus on expanding relation with state-owned oil companies.

"The eastern hemisphere is a market that is more heavily weighted toward oil exploration and production opportunities and growing our business here will bring more balance to Halliburton's overall portfolio," Lesar said in a statement.

Lesar announced the move at an energy conference in Bahrain

 

[JoeB131]

Now, on to Solyndra. The problem is that this wasn't based on sound economic reasoning, it was done on emotionalism. We all love Solar energy, man. It's renewable, we get it for free, we can tell them Arabs where to stick it. I've heard this song sung since the 1970's. And it never happens, because it isn't practical.

No it wasn't. Solar energy is about the only product right now that the US is tops in the world in terms of tech. And we are exporting it. This was a "gamble" like so many private/government investments. And compared to some really big failures with military tech "gambles", this is small potatoes.

Where's the investigations into them?

It wasn't a gamble, because the technology was unproven. Not to mention the main problem, the huge amounts of waste, like building a new office building when there was plenty of vacant office space in the same area, or spending six figures on a special conference room with self-darkening glass (venitian blinds would have done the same job for a lot less.)

In short, the folks at Solyndra spent like a drunken sailor in a whorehouse. And the fact the investors gave huge amounts of money to Obama makes it all a tad more suspect.

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL. Only 1/2 a billion? Peanuts, just ask Bushie baby and Darth Cheney. Look at the amount Haliburton got away with, then moved their company to Dubai.

We either get serious about competeing on solar with China, or we give them the whole of the technology. Along the way their will be bad investments. Solyandra was one of them. There will be more. However, they are not killing our soldiers with incompetant contractors, and feeding them contaminated water and food as Haliburton did, with you fellows cheering the whole way.

It's obvious by this statement that you've never served in the military and have no understanding of military history.

In World War II. The US took 291,000 combat deaths and 113,000 non-combat deaths, including soldiers who died of poor sanitation, diseases, etc. In WWI, non-combat deaths actually eclipsed combat deaths. YOu take a person out of his environment, and put him somewhere else, they are going to be subject to local germs, contaminations, etc. That's why they tell you to "not drink the water" when you go to other countries. Those people are used to the germs, you aren't.

Was on a training mission with the National Guard once in the 1980's. Some idiot weekend warrior didn't clean out a water trailer properly. As a result, half the company got dissentary and severe diarhea.

Now, on to Solyndra. The problem is that this wasn't based on sound economic reasoning, it was done on emotionalism. We all love Solar energy, man. It's renewable, we get it for free, we can tell them Arabs where to stick it. I've heard this song sung since the 1970's. And it never happens, because it isn't practical.

AP IMPACT: More bad wiring imperils troops in Iraq

WASHINGTON (AP) - Military inspectors are racing to examine 90,000 U.S.-run facilities in Iraq with the goal of repairing electrical problems before more troops are electrocuted or shocked while showering or using appliances.
About one-third of the inspections so far have turned up major electrical problems, according to interviews and an internal military document obtained by The Associated Press. Half of the problems they found have since been fixed, but about 65,000 facilities still must be inspected, which could take the rest of this year. Senior Pentagon officials were on Capitol Hill this week for briefings on the findings.

The work assigned to Task Force SAFE, which oversees the inspections and repairs, is aimed at preventing deaths like that of Staff Sgt. Ryan Maseth, 24, of Pittsburgh. He died in January 2008, one of at least three soldiers killed while showering since the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Scores more soldiers suffered shocks between September 2006 and July 2008, according to a database maintained by KBR Inc., the Houston-based contractor that oversees maintenance at most U.S. facilities in Iraq.

Solar is at present practical in many applications. And the thin film panels can be produced, at present, for less than $0.75 a watt.

Producing Solar Below 70 Cents a Watt | Renewable Energy Podcast

In 2009, industry leader First Solar was the first company to produce cadmium-telluride thin-film modules for below a dollar a watt. Today, the company is producing panels at 76 cents a watt – a benchmark by which all other solar manufacturers are compared. If a company can't provide a clear path to that cost range quickly, it probably doesn't have a good chance of competing in today's market. But First Solar certainly can't rest on its laurels.

In a big announcement this week, the equipment manufacturer Oerlikon says that its new fab line is able to pump out 10 percent-efficient amorphous-silicon (a-Si) thin-film modules for under 70 cents a watt.

 

[JoeB131]

again, 90,000 facilities thrown up in less than a year, usually using existing structures AND faulty third world power systems. And there were- gasp- problems?

Hey, why don't you visit your average public housing unit or public school... see how well facilities are run when the govenrment runs them instead of the private sector.

Oh, yeah, Solar energy- Still a hippy pipe dream. The only reason you are able to annoy us with your insipid stupdity is because a big evil corporation is providing you the energy to do it from fossil fuels or nuclear.

 

[Claudette]

If solar energy were a viable resource believe me all us Floridians would have it in our homes.

 

[Sallow]

Now, on to Solyndra. The problem is that this wasn't based on sound economic reasoning, it was done on emotionalism. We all love Solar energy, man. It's renewable, we get it for free, we can tell them Arabs where to stick it. I've heard this song sung since the 1970's. And it never happens, because it isn't practical.

No it wasn't. Solar energy is about the only product right now that the US is tops in the world in terms of tech. And we are exporting it. This was a "gamble" like so many private/government investments. And compared to some really big failures with military tech "gambles", this is small potatoes.

Where's the investigations into them?

It wasn't a gamble, because the technology was unproven. Not to mention the main problem, the huge amounts of waste, like building a new office building when there was plenty of vacant office space in the same area, or spending six figures on a special conference room with self-darkening glass (venitian blinds would have done the same job for a lot less.)

In short, the folks at Solyndra spent like a drunken sailor in a whorehouse. And the fact the investors gave huge amounts of money to Obama makes it all a tad more suspect.

What? What the fuck do you think a gamble is, exactly? And the tech is sound. It's been deployed in many areas around the world.

And..no it wasn't. Drunken sailor in a whorehouse would be the whole missile defense debacle. That cost billions. And not was only was the tech proven NOT to work but the whole deal reeks of lobbyist shennigans.

 

[Old Rocks]

If you are capable of basic use of tools, live in Florida, and do not have it in your home, you are a fool.

 

[Claudette]

There are loads of people handy with tools here in Florida. My brother in law among em. Solar still isn't widely used here. Must be a reason right??

Believe me if solar were viable my sister would have it in her home as would all of us here in Florida.

Guess your the fool Rocks.

 

[freedombecki]

Ah, so you guys are looking to stop the practice of government/private industry investments? Or just this particular one so that Obama can be impeached.

Mr. Sallow, you know it's in our better interests to just let the President keep KO'ing himself in the face by blathering in the EU how bad Americans are, having his correspondents "forgetting" in front of House hearings and the press, and his press secretary getting caught covering up things he said would be made transparent to the public, and all.

Why, Mr. Obama's bumblings have already handed any generic Republican keys to the White House next term and Obama a new job in the Golf kingdom in just one year and 63 days from today.

It's gonna be a bright, new day in America when the current spendthrifts are put out to pasture sooner rather than later.

Ain't America grand!?

 

[Trajan]

No it wasn't. Solar energy is about the only product right now that the US is tops in the world in terms of tech. And we are exporting it. This was a "gamble" like so many private/government investments. And compared to some really big failures with military tech "gambles", this is small potatoes.

Where's the investigations into them?

It wasn't a gamble, because the technology was unproven. Not to mention the main problem, the huge amounts of waste, like building a new office building when there was plenty of vacant office space in the same area, or spending six figures on a special conference room with self-darkening glass (venitian blinds would have done the same job for a lot less.)

In short, the folks at Solyndra spent like a drunken sailor in a whorehouse. And the fact the investors gave huge amounts of money to Obama makes it all a tad more suspect.

What? What the fuck do you think a gamble is, exactly? And the tech is sound. It's been deployed in many areas around the world.

And..no it wasn't. Drunken sailor in a whorehouse would be the whole missile defense debacle. That cost billions. And not was only was the tech proven NOT to work but the whole deal reeks of lobbyist shennigans.

the tech being sound or not matters little in a MARKET that won't by their panels for more than 65 cents on the dollar it takes to prodcue. see how that works? and, they were warned.

 

[Trajan]

LOL. Only 1/2 a billion? Peanuts, just ask Bushie baby and Darth Cheney. Look at the amount Haliburton got away with, then moved their company to Dubai.

We either get serious about competeing on solar with China, or we give them the whole of the technology. Along the way their will be bad investments. Solyandra was one of them. There will be more. However, they are not killing our soldiers with incompetant contractors, and feeding them contaminated water and food as Haliburton did, with you fellows cheering the whole way.

introducing haliburton just speaks to your lack of ability to address the issue. chu is a scientist not an expert in venture capital. buy a clue of you cannot stumble across one .

Steven Chu&rsquo;s Solyndra testimony: Misleading jobs stats and missing context - The Fact Checker - The Washington Post

 

[FactFinder]

Chu To Take Fall For Solyndra: No Jail Time

I gotta give him some credit. Even though I don't generally like him he did man up to it.