Christophera's Amazing Invisible Concrete Core.

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    This thread is to expose Christphera as someone lying and fabricating stories to back up his claim that the World Trade Center Towers were built with explosives in place to be demolished later. Central to this wild claim is that the World Trade Center Towers did not have a steel core but instead was built with a concrete core filled with explosives.

    While construction pictures, news articles and engineering universities all show that the WTC Towers had a steel core Christophera's sole evidence seems to be a handful of poorly researched articles and blurry pictures from long distances. Most of what he claims is concrete is shown to be made of steel when shown from other angles or at other times in the life of the towers.

    Christophera's story changes continually on the details of where exactly the core is located, how thick his fictional concrete core is. He regularly simply fabricates claims such as "the cores were radically different because tenants complained" when in fact this is completely false and in fact impossible considering the second tower's construction was already well under way when the first tower was completed and occupied.

    so lets start by showing some of the proof for a steel core. i will try to keep the first post of this thread updated with any new info.


    Written Evidence and Statements:
    "For a combination of historical, cultural and economic reasons, tall, concrete-core buildings dedicated to office use are unusual in New York, where builders prefer the wallboard-enclosed cores with steel frames that Mr. Robertson pioneered in the trade center."
    New York Timeshere


    "Engineers are still debating whether the Twin Towers' unique structure should be credited for surviving the initial crashes, or blamed for collapsing in the subsequent fires, or both. But the point is that it was unique, utilizing closely spaced columns connected to a steel core by relatively lightweight floor trusses. "
    NewsweekNewsweek.com


    "Each of the towers, more than 200 ft. wide on each side, contained a central steel core surrounded by open office space. Eighteen-inch steel tubes ran vertically along the outside, providing much of the support for the building"
    Time Magazine. TIME.com


    "The twin towers were the first supertall buildings designed without any masonry. Worried that the intense air pressure created by the building's high speed elevators might buckle conventional shafts, engineers designed a solution using a drywall system fixed to the reinforced steel core. "
    engineering.comENGINEERING.com


    "Like many high-rises built in the 1960s, the Twin Towers were constructed with their weight distributed between a hollow steel core (containing services like elevators) and steel columns around the perimeter, maximizing open floor space. Many believe the older high-rise design, in which steel columns are often encased in concrete, is more fire resistant.

    “A lot of people have told me, ‘You should have used more concrete in the structure,’” said Robertson. However, his chart plotting the strength of steel vs. concrete at various temperatures showed that at the incendiary levels that raged in the towers, the two materials become similarly weak."
    Berkeley 04.17.2002 - World Trade Center remembered

    "Yamasaki has switched from concrete, his favorite medium, to steel because of the sheer height of the towers, and instead of having the weight of the structure carried by the frame and the elevator core, the great steel columns of the exterior walls will support it."
    Time Magazine article from 1964!! Art: Onward & Upward - TIME

    EVIDENCE FROM CHRISTOPHERA:

    Photo Evidence 1:

    Christophera claims the following photo shows "elevator guide rail support steel" topped by "butt plates" instead of the steel core. He has yet to provide any source for this information.
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    In response we can see that his "butt plates" are actually where the steel beams connect to the steel core columns. We can also see that structural steel is connected his "elevator guide rail support steel". Christophera also claims the butt plates are too weak for a connection but here we can see the columns are welded.
    [​IMG]
     
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    I have become convinced that agent chrissy is indeed an agent of propaganda intent of spreading disinformation and lies to foment dissatisfaction with the US government.


    There are enough valid reasons to disapprove of the US government without resorting to lies that give aid and comfort to our enemies. Constructive criticism to improve our nation is quite acceptable and considered the American way. Spreading propaganda is treason.


    I caome to this conclusion after reading agent chrissy's posts around the internet and observing that no amount of evidence, pictures, statements change the subject matter of his posts. Only an enemy agent would continue to post the same debunked bullshit for years while calling everyone else, from other posters to emergency workers to judges 'agents' and 'perps'.


    I believe the mental illness bit is an act. I believe he knows exactly what he is doing. I believe the agent is the lowest form of treasonist scum on the planet.

    Al Qaeda agents have honor, despicable as they are, they announce their intentions, and fight for their beliefs. Agent chrissy displays none of those qualities.
     
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    Claims made by Christophera
    There are no photos of the steel core columns on 9/11. This is usually followed by a picture of the steel core columns on 9/11 that he will either claim are "outside the core" or are not columns (see his unsupported "elevator guide rail support" claim above).

    Response:
    There are columns in only two places in the WTC Towers. There are the perimeter columns which make up the outside walls and there are the steel core columns. There are no columns "surrounding the core". They actually are the core. Christophera claims the steel core shown below is NOT the core and NOT the perimeter walls of the Towers.

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    As rat in the hat said in another thread, I too would like to get in on the ground floor of the "invisacrete" market.
    I am well versed in creating mix designs for concrete and asphalt. I am sure there is a learning curve to create a mix design for "invisacrete, but am also certain that I could get past the learning curve.

    I wonder how one determines if "invisacrete" has received a good finish or even if it has completely filled the forms.

    How does one determine if "invisicrete" is honeycombed, and how does one go about patching it?
     
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    I really need to find out more details about Crissy's Invisicrete (accept no substitutes), as I may be able to land two jobs with it.

    One person wants a security wall around his property that will not block his view of the Mississippi River. The other would like a building over her pool that will let in the ambient light, but block UV rays & passive solar gain.

    Come on Chrissy, let us in on where we can get the mix info. I'll even cut you in for a percentage of the profits.
     
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    i have a hotel that wants a swimming pool on the roof made out of invisicrete.
     
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    If the hotel has a lot of cute college girls for guests, I want a room under the pool. If they're all fat old grannys, put me in the basement!!
     
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    People who live in invisicrete towers shouldn't throw glasses.
     
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    UHm...Ok let me get this straight... You have someone on here who actually believes they built the WTC, with a concrete core filled with explosives so they could blow it up later?

    WOW!!!
     
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    yup

    and the dipshit cant post a single photo from construction showing rebar cages, concrete forms, or even concrete
    while he has been shown NUMEROUS photos during construction show steel core columns
     
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