Christmas, and the Founding Principles of this Nation, is all about Christ

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    by Douglas V. Gibbs at Political Pistachio blog

    As we approach Christmas 2012, we need to remember the reason for the season. The reason for the Christmas Season is Jesus Christ. I will not say "Happy Holidays," when the real response should be "Merry Christmas."

    The reason for the season is the same as the reason for the liberty we enjoy in this nation. Tyranny rejects faith, while divine providence was the source of the founding of America. Our system has stood the test of time because we as a nation have embraced the Christian principles that went into the forging of this country into existence.

    There is the secular way:
    And there is the way of faith:

    Who should we listen to? The father or communism, or the founders of this nation?

    -- Political Pistachio Conservative News and Commentary
     
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    During the mid 1700s every state and country on Europe was founded on God, the church ran each and every government and the monarchs tyranny was fully supported by their claims that divine right from God gave them power to lead.
    The British were marching on Concord and Lexington as civilians were arming themselves individually with guns and forming a militia. The Church of England, the largest church in the colonies, backed the Torries which supported the King and his centuries old grip of religious tyranny with claims of God given divine right. The Torries and the crown wanted to collect all the weapons the militia had as that was the order from God through the King.
    The Founders kicked those Bible thumpers ASS, 100,000 of them fled to Canada and back to England after the war and The United States Constitution was written with NO mention of God anywhere in it.
    For a reason. We are a nation OF LAWS, not men and their various and changing like the wind religious beliefs.
    The Founders were fine Christian men that saw how the Christian religion FUCKED UP every government in Europe and wanted no part of religion in government here. Of course every election they spoke a mean game but read THE CONSTITUTION.
    An interesting document.
     
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    Most of the founders were deists and even Adams believed that Christianity was being misinterpreted and misused in the service of superstition, fraud, and unscrupulous power.

    We are governed secularly, not as a theocracy. Thank God.
     
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    More evidence we’re in as much need of the First Amendment today as at any time in our Nation’s history.
     
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    Christ is cool. Religion... not so much.
     
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    Perhaps we should simply listen to history, through which we would know that the Winter Solstice, which is a hell of a lot older than Jesus, is the reason for the season. Also the reason for the lights and decorations of greenery -- sympathetic magic to bring back the light.

    As far as the Founders, (a) what Si modo said, and (b) we might also remember that Christmas was banned (illegal) in the Puritan colony and wasn't even a legal holiday until 1870.

    Here's a good reminder of the reason for the season; always worth a refresher this time of year:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZgT1SRcrKE]Zeitgeist (2007) - Part 1 - Religion - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    I like this founder:

    "The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding" ~Thomas Jefferson~
     
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    Isn't that just an acknowledgement that more than one holiday is celebrated during the period? That "real response" is nothing more than religious chauvinism.
     
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    Most of the Founders were Episcopalian, The Church of England.
    They broke with them and fought the crown.
     
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    There is no place for religon in the state. Much like there is no place in the state for religon. Its the First amendment, which means our founding fathers found it pretty dang important to ensure that way of thinking
     

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