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Kristin Murray, who left her position in the state party to serve as one of several campaign managers for O’Donnell during that race, said warning bells went off in June 2008 when the two were discussing cell phone plans.
"She told me that she thought Joe Biden tapped her phone line," she said.
Moore, who first decided to volunteer for O'Donnell after hearing about her at a meeting of college Republicans, said that at one point, O'Donnell talked to him about winning a lucrative television contract with CNN or Fox News Channel.
"I informed her that most media organizations prohibit their employees from running for office. She didn't seem to understand and was more interested in getting a contract," he recalled. "She was more concerned about getting a TV deal than winning office."
When aides told O'Donnell it was a bad idea and that the cash-poor campaign should conserve its resources for more practical items like signs and bumper stickers, Moore recalled, "She didn't take too kindly to that."
"It was an irresponsible idea," said David Keegan, who served as O'Donnell's financial officer. “And half the people in the street thought she was throwing condoms out of the truck.”
Still waiting Modbert. Where is a thread authored by you attacking the current crop of Liberal Democrats all being investigated and having trails set for ethics and law violations?
Rangel broke the law as well as violated ethics. I don't recall a thread by you demonizing the fact his district chose him to run for office again.
You only make threads about right of center topics and people. And then pretend that just isn't true.
I'll tell you, I just came back from the Middle East, and it was refreshing. With all that is going on, it was refreshing not to be constantly bombarded with smut all the time.
American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains. So they're already into this experiment.
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American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains. So they're already into this experiment.
Coockoo for CocoPuffs is not just a saying anymore.
March 06, 2005
Stanford Prof Plans Mouse With Human Brain Cells
Adult stem cell researcher Irving Weissman, M.D. of the Stanford School of Medicine wants to develop mice that have a lot of human neurons in their brains.
So Stanford asked where it should draw the line. It is the first university in the nation to tackle the philosophical question: When does a chimera stop being an animal and start becoming a person, suggesting that research should end? The report foreshadows the release of guidelines on stem-cell research, including chimeras, by the National Academy of Sciences this spring.
``We concluded that if we see any signs of human brain structures . . . or if the mouse shows human-like behaviors, like improved memory or problem-solving, it's time to stop,'' said law and genetics Professor Henry T. Greely, director of the Center for Law and the Biosciences and leader of the committee.
``We think if he takes appropriate caution -- including stopping at each step along the way, to see what's happening -- the research is ethical,'' he said.
What I find especially interesting about this report is the reticence to see animals made smarter. What is their motivation for this restriction? Is it that they do not want lab animals made intelligent because then experimentation on them would become too much like experimentation on sentient humans?
Or do they object more generally to modification of other species to make them become as smart as humans? If the latter, what are their reasons for opposing this move? Certainly one can think of reasons to oppose such a development. The human race could find its existence threatened if we genetically engineered some predator species to be as smart as we are. Imagine smart lions and tigers with no empathy for the human species hunting us down to eat. For that matter, imagine genetically engineered human psychopaths with no empathy for the human species. They already occur naturally in smaller numbers. Will some people ever choose to use biotechnology to produce offspring with little or no empathy?
Or is the objection to making smart mice with human neurons just the creepiness factor? Are the committee members either creeped out by that notion or afraid the public will be? In the longer run discoveries of which genetic variations raise intelligence will point to ways to increase the intelligence of mice without the need to use human neurons. Higher intelligence will be achievable in mice by use of genetic engineering to change the sequences of existing mouse genes.
Weissman's motivation here is that he wants better animal models of human diseases. He is not initially aiming to create mice that have 100% human nerve cell brains. He just needs enough human neuronal cells in the brains of a mouse model to recreate manifestations of human neurological disorders such as Lou Gehrig's disease (a.k.a. Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis or ALS), schizophrenia, stroke, and other neurological disorders. The ability to replicate human diseases outside of humans is an enormously valuable approach to investigating the mechanism that cause diseases and to test potential therapeutic approaches for treating and curing diseases.
For some interesting insights and an overview of the state of stem cell research see Weissman's July 14, 2004 testimony on adult stem cell research to the US Senatoe Committee on Commerce, Science, & Transportation.
On the subject of cross-species hybrids the US Patent Office has just rejected an attempt to patent the idea of creating a human-animal chimera hybrid.
The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office rejected the claim, saying the hybrid -- designed for use in medical research but not yet created -- would be too closely related to a human to be patentable.
Paradoxically, the rejection was a victory of sorts for the inventor, Stuart Newman of New York Medical College in Valhalla, N.Y. An opponent of patents on living things, he had no intention of making the creatures. His goal was to set a legal precedent that would keep others from profiting from any similar "inventions."
Newman does not want to see people create chimeras. So he is trying to reduce the business incentive for doing so. However, I do not believe the question of whether to create chimeras is going to be decided based on expected return on investment. Some potential projects hold sufficient allure that even absent a large chance of profit there are wealthy people who will attempt them once attempts to do so become cheap enough. For examples of this phenomenon look at the groups (some of them driven by spiritual beliefs) that are trying to clone humans. Or how about people who build airplanes and other devices for the challenge and for the fame that sometimes results.
I think the development of smarter animals and the development of chimeras are both inevitable. These developments can be delayed by regulations and restrictions on government funding. But the expense and difficulty of attempting these efforts will eventually drop to the point that the barriers in the way of attempts to do these things will fall so low that they will happen. The streets find their own uses for technology.
Update: Michael J. Fox is helping to get the broad public ready for future talking mice.
Supporters of stem cell research at Stanford University include the actor Michael J Fox, who suffers from Parkinson's disease. Fox provided the voice for Stuart Little, Hollywood's version of the "human mouse'', who talks, has human parents and lives in a New York apartment.
I picture a Back To The Future sequel where talking mice go along for a ride in a Delorean.
Update II: Also see my previous post Human-Mouse Hybrid Creation Debated.
By Randall Parker at 2005 March 06 03:34 PM Biotech Hybrids
Still waiting Modbert. Where is a thread authored by you attacking the current crop of Liberal Democrats all being investigated and having trails set for ethics and law violations?
Rangel broke the law as well as violated ethics. I don't recall a thread by you demonizing the fact his district chose him to run for office again.
You only make threads about right of center topics and people. And then pretend that just isn't true.
And attacking the messenger right out of the gate.
On a consistent basis, I have said that any Democrat in Congress who is guilty of ethics and laws violations should be prosecuted and punished as according to the laws.
Yeah, people aren't even paying attention to ObamaCare, unemployment and the annual Trillion deficits
Well, she's in good company. Both her and the Republican running for Gov in Georgia took out homeloans they couldn't afford and either face foreclosure or sold in a firesale to avoid foreclosure.
Then we have some nice quotes from Mrs. O'Donnell such as:
I'll tell you, I just came back from the Middle East, and it was refreshing. With all that is going on, it was refreshing not to be constantly bombarded with smut all the time.
Paradise! If only our values about women and sex were more in line with the Middle East!
American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains. So they're already into this experiment.
Coockoo for CocoPuffs is not just a saying anymore.
Well, she's in good company. Both her and the Republican running for Gov in Georgia took out homeloans they couldn't afford and either face foreclosure or sold in a firesale to avoid foreclosure.
Then we have some nice quotes from Mrs. O'Donnell such as:
I'll tell you, I just came back from the Middle East, and it was refreshing. With all that is going on, it was refreshing not to be constantly bombarded with smut all the time.
Paradise! If only our values about women and sex were more in line with the Middle East!
American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains. So they're already into this experiment.
Coockoo for CocoPuffs is not just a saying anymore.
And yet she is supposedly the candidate for fiscal responsibility
that may be so. But all one has to do is look up all the posts you START and it is easy to see you only start posts about Right of Center issues you do not like.
Did you actually read my positions in my posts. I see you have the one about Reid and the amnesty bill. If you had read you would see it was a pro post. I agreed with Reid and said I liked the idea.
My post about Obama declaring combat over was also not inherently anti Obama. I simply asked if it could bite him in the ass later if we had combat deaths in Iraq.
Did you actually read my positions in my posts. I see you have the one about Reid and the amnesty bill. If you had read you would see it was a pro post. I agreed with Reid and said I liked the idea.
My post about Obama declaring combat over was also not inherently anti Obama. I simply asked if it could bite him in the ass later if we had combat deaths in Iraq.
Yes. I realize that. However, I was pointing out that in the past month, I have moved away for the most part from making threads revolving around the same two or three topics that seem to take up the majority of posts on this board. I try to have discussions about just about every other important issue that matters and that doesn't get nearly as much attention as it should.
Her house is in foreclosure. She spent more than she makes.Well, she's in good company. Both her and the Republican running for Gov in Georgia took out homeloans they couldn't afford and either face foreclosure or sold in a firesale to avoid foreclosure.
Then we have some nice quotes from Mrs. O'Donnell such as:
Paradise! If only our values about women and sex were more in line with the Middle East!
Coockoo for CocoPuffs is not just a saying anymore.
And yet she is supposedly the candidate for fiscal responsibility
Because recognizing that at least the Middle East doesn't revel in sexist porn (like, oh, many of us do) and recognizing that some scientists are already working on genetic engineering experiments that involve human brain cells being grown inside the skulls of mice means she can't be fiscally responsible.
A really typical "liberal" point there.
leftwingshitflinger, your post was truly dumber than your usual fare that time. Moron.
