Christians vs. Non-Christians

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    What would be better for the US? A country full of Christians or a country full of Non-Christians?
     
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    I don't care, just give me the contract to round up the losers and ship them out before bloody Halliburton gets one of those no-bid contracts and gazumps me.
     
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    A country where both are allowed to practice their religion or non-religion, without fear of reprisal from the other group.
     
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    Well, statistics do show that atheist commit less crime per capita than those that call themselves "christian."
     
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    Of course when Atheist do commit crimes they normally kill quite a few people. :D :doubt:
     
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    Is that a question? If so it would be Sweden, Denmark maybe, as the most tolerant Christian/secular nations. I don't know how Buddhists or Hindus handle religion, although Hindus tend toward caste classifications. I would rate America similar to Iran in that being a free thinker in either society places you outside the mainstream power system.

    Darn, I'm answering a comment. Religion will always create problems, as it has the answers, and when you have the answers why question. But secular has its problems too as while most of us consider ourselves rational and reasonable many aren't. So secular would be like the free market zealots - full of crazies - in the end tolerance and a clear recognition of pluralism are best traits.
     
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    Iran, is that like near Persia or something?
     
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    actually most murders are committed by people who claim to be chrisitians in the us. remember many are ones that were told by god to kill.....
     
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    That's fascinating.

    I'm fairly familiar with the DOJ statistical database, and don't recall any stats on religions of those convincted of crimes.

    Can you point me to that statistic, please?
     
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    I dont have a link, but such statistics have, in cases of Atheists, some significant confounders:
    1: Atheists tend to have a decent degree of education, otherwise one is not really going to make up his mind.
    2: With Education usually comes money (or vice versa)

    In the end we have rich and relativly smart people. This means: More to loose (beeing rich) more difficult to convict (No legal system I know treats the Rich and Poor equally) more difficult to catch in the first place (beeing smart increases you chances of getting away).

    My gripe is not with religion, but with any ideology that says "we are the only ones who KNOW" everyone else is a "Heathen", "Heretic", "Untermensch", "Imperialist Swine" and will "Burn in Hell", "Be eradicated", "Be defeated by the arms of the working class".
     

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