Christians accepting Muslims?

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    As a Christian conservative and this being my first post I'll start it out with a bang.

    You can not be a Christian and be tolerant of Muslims (or any other faith for that matter)

    If it sounds like hate speech, you have misinterpreted that statment. Christianity acknowleges Jesus Christ as the son of God and no others. This does not allow for tolerance of other religions. To do so would jeopardize your religious affiliation. In the ten commandments one of them states "You shall honor no other gods before me."

    This being said I cannot say that another religion is even remotely correct (they are in fact redundant). Therefore those who take political correctness to the extreme and would label this as hate speech have fallen to what is called MORAL RELATIVISM.

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    Moral relativism: The idea that anything goes (in a nutshell). Take in to consideration that a gay person wants equal tolerance of his sexuality. Someone with common sense would say no. Someone lost to moral relativism would say "Hey bud whatever makes you happy in this life. Live for today man...more power to you." It is the absence of ABSOLUTE TRUTH. An absolute truth would state, "Light exists". Those who argue absolute truths are not exactly logically developed since by stating that there are no absolute truths is in fact...an absolute truth.
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    Now take in to your mind that this is not hate speech. I have a couple muslim friends who I speak with regularly. Though they know that I do not tolerate their faith because mine is correct. This may seem ignorant and I can understand how it may seem that way but keep in mind that it is also the truth.

    Moral relativism (by the way) is the basis for the Democratic and Green parties. Their entire policy is based on doing "Whatever you feel like, and whatever makes you happy" not to mention giving respect without actually doing anything to earn it.

    So in a nutshell the Muslim faith cannot be tolerated if you are in fact a Christian. If you believe it's ok to accept another's faith of another god as well as the real God then by all means...feel free to post.

    I feel as if I've just released a time bomb. Logically based arguements now people! :)
     
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    MeSSeNJa,

    Welcome to the board. I am also Christian, and conservative, though I don't think that the label "Christian conservative" really fits me.

    Anyway, I agree that as Christians, we cannot accept the Muslim religion's claims about God, as they deny the Trinity and believe that Mohammed's words about God are more accurate than Jesus's.

    However, I think that we can be tolerant of adherents to Islam. Otherwise, how are we ever going to be able to talk with them about our own faith, and the reasons we believe what we do? It may sound like semantics, but I think there's a big difference there.

    Again, welcome!
     
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    I wanted to come up with some long, drawn out, logical explanation as to why this kind of thinking benefits noone but theres just no way to drum out that kind of inane and ignorant insanity :dunno: :scratch:
     
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    Zhukov I totally agree. That's how all people should be treated, regardless of religious belief.
     
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    I agree, Zhukov's response says it all.

    Just to add a personal anecdote. When I was in 6th grade, I had close friends who were Jewish and Buddhist. In catechism class one day, I asked my teacher what would happen to them in the after life. She gave a wonderful answer: It is up to God to judge all people and she personally believed that he would recognize good people no matter what religion they followed. Not the official Catholic dogma by any means, but a decent way to view other people who have different ways of living.
     
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    Zhukov you are entirely correct and my point does not conflict with the point you are implying. I am saying that because you are a Christian you cannot tolerate other religions. Do to others ars you would have them do to you (or the golden rule) is supported by my claim. But if you expressly believe that Jesus was God incarnate then you cannot view another as equal. An absolute truth :eek: This kind will benefit all because it teaches people to stand for something and believe in something. Liberalism teaches moral relativism.
     
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    I think you completely missing the point of the Golden Rule if you use it as a way to judge other human beings a being somehow lesser beings because they are not Christian.

    Your attitude is what breeds religious wars - not unsimilar to the attitude of the Islamic Jihadists towards the West.
     
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    See it's different in this aspect. I don't go kill people on a bus because they have a different religion. My attitude is entirely different because I also do not condone hate. I do believe that you are missing the point...
     
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    No, I get your point quite clearly - it is religious intolerance. It doesn't matter if you yourself would become a suicide bomber. When the moderate believers of a religion allow the permeation of intolerance of "others", that intolerance is embraced and fomented into hatred by the fanatics on the fringe.

    This is what happend to Islam. Do you want it to happen to Christianity? Well, it actually already has. Look at history and see how many people have been killed in the name of Jesus. It's not a pretty picture. And one he would have abhorred.
     

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