Christianity would die without Islam.

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    Christianity would die without Islam.

    Belief is a psychological and imposed condition. Mutual fear and The Nobel Lie is sustaining both Islam and Christianity by governments. They are using religion and the religious as patsies.

    The Lie is necessary, Plato argues, in order to keep a stable social structure. In Plato’s mind, The Noble Lie is a religious lie that’s fed to the masses to keep them under control and happy with their situation in life.

    Plato did not believe most people were smart enough to look after their own and society’s best interest. The few smart people of the world needed to lead the rest of the flock, Plato said. And The Noble Lie had to continue.

    I have been puzzled for some time now as to why the West embraces a pathological and genocidal God who shows almost all works and deeds of hate instead of love.

    If I understand why the West chose the Christian God of war correctly, that choice was made and is sustained by the pressures of war brought against it by Islam. The Islamic dogma of kill the infidels show other religions that that God is just as pathological and intolerant as the Christian God with his, believe in me or end in hell policy. The West fought fire with fire. A holy pissing contest based on the Noble Lie on both sides.

    Rome, now the West, would have had to have a different God than what their Eastern counterparts had. Rome was created as a defensive response to invasions from the Khans and tribes of the Fertile Crescent, Islam. As the Asian tribes relented in their expansion, the main enemy of the West became and is now Islam.

    Constantine chose Christianity. First, as a ploy to win in battle and maintained it later, even as he was not a Christian at heart, for his own self-aggrandizement as his plan, according to archeology, was to usurp Jesus as the new King/God.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD0eSqFJ7J4]Secrets of Christianity: Selling Christianity - YouTube[/ame]

    From there, Rome pushed northward and promoted the Christian God of war on his ability to win battles. The West of today was born.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA_SSpQDpl4&feature=related]The Franks - YouTube[/ame]

    Unfortunately, morality was never the draw for this Christian God. Only his barbarism that was used against all other Gods and most notably Islam’s.

    The fear of Islam then is what is still the driving force that explains the West embracing the pathological and genocidal God of Christianity. It was all just the one-upmanship of killing power.

    Vatican II tried for rapprochement with Islam and today, progressive Christianity is trying to offer an olive branch to Islam.

    Are the right wings of Christianity and Islam ready to bury the hatchet of war and competition and have their Gods kiss and make up or will the demographics of Muslim peoples force the remainder of this century to be one of conflict?
    Will both religions have what it takes to return to the older thinking that there is only one nameless God for all, or will we continue to fight for what is basically a name for God that all books of wisdom say we should not name?

    ‘Identity that sends us toward the other with love’

    Should both Christianity and Islam revert and follow their religious root, Judaism, and recognize that their man created versions of their Gods are evil and reject them as unfit to rule any peaceful loving egalitarian nation?

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI]God on Trial: The Verdict - YouTube[/ame]

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    So those 600 years Christianity grew and thrived without Islam are just a fluke?
     
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    Organized, centralized Christianity died a spiritual death when it became the official church of the Roman Empire. That has been an empty husk ever since.

    The spirit of what Jesus represents is not the same thing. Whether or not one accepts Jesus in the fully religious sense, what he said has transcendence. It is a wise path that humans could follow and live a full and beautiful life. Of course, that is not what many people want, especially those devoted to power.

    Islam is not destined to survive. It will either kill itself or slowly fade away.
     
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    I thought that was Obama. ;)
     
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    Shove your religious bigotry right up your ass!!!
     
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    So you can't even defend your own post and have to resort to the name calling already.
     
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    Im not really sure that helps
     
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    No argument on Christianity.

    That is not what the E U demographics show for Islam.
    Islam will grow will Christianity will not grow as quickly.
    Every country has different rates so it is hard to quantify.
    But all that does not speak to the rapprochement if peace is to be had.

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    I see it as a right wing policy, not left.

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