christian dogma of nonresistance and nazis

If you feel compelled to go back to the Crusdades to prove Christians are violent, then essentially you are admitting it's not a problem today.

And I guess it's time to point out, AGAIN, that the Roman Catholic Church was a political body, on a par with Islam, that joined together with solely political factions, to pursh a political agenda. It's heyday of violence was short lived and dependent upon the support and being used by the political powers of the day, namely as a tool to prevent Islam from conquering Europe and taking over the Middle East...which had been tribal and Christian until Islam began to expand and butcher it's way across the globe. The Catholic Church was the one unifying body Europe had that it could use to fight back agains this threat, and they did. And it worked famously.

Of course it went too far, and ultimately the countries of Europe were using the church and religion as an excuse to enact political atrocities and squelch political foes, and that, of course, was wrong.

But this was a very long time ago,and there's no indication it's going to happen again or the church has any interest in involving itself in such a mess again.

Besides which, the days where the church exerted such political power are over. We have too many other denominations and while Catholicism is still a very powerful religion, countries no longer band together with the church to accomplish military success.
 
Christendom is divided on this issue.

Some christians are total pacifists, others not.

You already know this, of course, which is why many of us are probably thinking that your post is trollish.

yep seeing the Bush crusade in Iraq and afghhanistan; it's sure that it's far to be a nonresistance policy :cool:
 
according to many christian ressources, resistance or using arm to kill is forbidden in all circumstances
hat the way of life taught by Jesus Christ is one of
nonresistance, nonviolence, and peace.

When Christians seek to justify their violent actions,
they pervert the gospel and vainly attempt to recast
Jesus in their own image.
nonresistance.org - Home Page

in this case, why church doesn't forbid arms and weapons?
is this justify that Vatican has never called fidels to resist against Nazi invasion?

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Dietrich Bonhoeffer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voy-9IK56CA]YouTube - Bonhoeffer: Jamming the Wheels of the Nazi Machine[/ame]

there, ya just learned something. what will you do with what you have just learned?
 
If you are talking about going to war, as for the United States, then I think there is good argument that we should not do that as Christians. However, Jesus taught that a good man will protect his home and family by resisting the enemy who would enter and harm.

Also, It is true that we are to resist the Devil and all that He represents. That resistence is not necessarily with violence, but with abstanence, or refusal to participate, or approve of what is evil and immoral. The scriptures are clear on morality and what is evil.

We also are called upon to not fight back with violence if the attack on us is not violent, such as a legal attack where we are sued. We can resist, with legal protection, but if we lose, we are called upon to pay as required, and maybe even give a little more.

Then there is the idea of involvement with other religions, and cults. We are not to participate or in any way approve of such, and we are not to associate with anyone who worships another god, other than casual conversation. No marriage, no business involvements, etc.

There are a lot of clear guidelines for how to live with the world around us. We are in the world, but not of the world.
 
Christendom is divided on this issue.

Some christians are total pacifists, others not.

You already know this, of course, which is why many of us are probably thinking that your post is trollish.

yep seeing the Bush crusade in Iraq and afghhanistan; it's sure that it's far to be a nonresistance policy :cool:

and yet you actually almost make Bush look smart.

that's quite an accomplishment.
 
The Catholic church in Germany supported the Nazi Party and their rise to power.


Sadly true.

Sans support from the Christian Dems (who took their marching orders from the Catholic Church of Germany) Hitler would not have attained high office.

As I recall, the Mother Church has already condemned itself for failing to stand up to the NAZIs.
 

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